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The 15 Most Insane Moments From The Superhero TV Season, Ranked BY LAURA HURLEY MAY 26 2016 http://www.cinemablend.com/television/15-Most-Insane-Moments-From-Superhero-TV-Season-Ranked-140877.html FYI for LoT fans... Legends of Tomorrow - Warner's Details, Final Package in their Press Release for 'The Complete 1st Season' Blu-ray Disc and DVD versions will both be in stores by late August Posted by David Lambert 5/26/2016 http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Legends-Tomorrow-Season-1-Press-Release/22305

We Minored In Film review of 423 (this is a good read) - makes a Flash comparison but Arrow comes out on top! (also makes an Angel comparison that I didn't quote)... Reacting to Arrow’s Season 4 Finale: A Change Will Do Them Good Posted on May 26, 2016 by Kelly Konda https://weminoredinfilm.com/2016/05/26/reacting-to-arrows-season-4-finale-a-change-will-do-them-good/

From COH2 in Birmingham on May 15 (AUDIO only) - Part 1 was previously posted at the top of page 405... Stephen Amell/ OTA panel Part 2 Published on May 26, 2016, by Tanavi P. I only transcribed a few parts: -- SA: "So maybe the theme for season 5 can be 'everything that's old is new again.' ... Some old school stupid training sequences. Shirtless for no reason. Kill a bunch of guys... Maybe some greasepaint...." SA promised that he'll do the salmon ladder next season. -- On when they knew they could push the perimeters of the show to introduce the supernatural and superpowers and whose decision it was to do so, SA: "There's a bunch of things in play here. Television is a business. Warner Bros. owns Arrow. Warner Bros. sells Arrow to Sky1. SkyTV? Sky1? Which one? (audience says, "Sky1") Exactly... And it's their responsibility to package it in a good way. So Arrow is packaged. And we spend the entire year going, 'this is the superhero show with no... superpowers,' right? Then, out of nowhere - and if anyone says they knew it was coming, they're coming - the pilot comes out and it pops. And it gets a big rating on The CW. And all of a sudden, ... it's one of the breakout shows of the fall. And I think from the 2012 slate, it may in fact be the only one left. And it's been almost, incredibly, supernaturally - no pun intended - consistent in terms of ratings, and in terms of viewers, and in some instances and in some place, it's actually gone up a little bit. So it's the show with no superpowers. Then DC, WB, go to Greg Berlanti and say, 'would you like The Flash?' And they go, 'of course we would.' And bam, Arrow has superpowers. Speaking of superpowers... (Audience starts cheering loudly at this point when EBR and DR enter the stage.) Thought we'd bring you a little treat." -- SA: "We have spent an incredible amount of time together over these past four years." EBR echoed this statement. -- SA gave DR some grief over spilling too much of the season finale the day before. SA: "In terms of it being the three of us, that will make a lot of sense when you see the finale. You see, David, that's how you answer a question." -- In response to fan asking how they felt when they found out it was Laurel who was in the grave, EBR said that she cried, but DR said that he was "f*ckin' so happy" that it wasn't him. He then said that everyone was sad. They all said that it was very emotional shooting the hospital scene. SA said that he heard right after KC heard when he was in NJ just when the storm was about to hit [the HVFF in January]. He said that it was "a testament to [her] professionalism" that she got the news that night and showed up in NJ the day after and smiled in pictures and signed autographs. He said that they'll miss her. -- In response to fan asking about more strong female characters on the show, SA said that one of his favorite characters was the Huntress and that they can't bring her back because the actress booked another job. DR mentioned a scene where Diggle is talking about how awesome Felicity is to Oliver and says, "I know how you feel about her because I married a woman just like her," and said that Lyla is one of those strong female characters. He also said that he was asked why baby Sara was on Diggle's back when Diggle was on the motorcycle during the chase scene and said, "she can take it." SA then said that they need a female Big Bad. -- In response to fan asking about karaoke competition, SA said that they would compete with "Jared and Jensen" [Supernatural guys]. SA and DR sang a few lines of 'Ebony and Ivory' to EBR. (DR and EBR then exited to audience applause.) -- SA: "I think that everyone will be satisifed with the ending of season 4. I think that promises are honored, the characters are honored, and everyone is on a new and interesting journey... It doesn't feel like a series finale, it certainly feels like a season finale... Last year felt like a series finale... Most importantly, there's a little pop of intrigue, right at the end that I think is really going to jazz people up for some new, interesting stuff in season 5. And it's going to continue on one of my favorite parts of season 4." -- In response to fan asking about what we can expect for Olicity at the end of season 4 and into season 5, SA: "I think that Emily - Oliver & Felicity's relationship is, um - it's in a very mature place - that's where we leave it. And I think there's a little bit of certainty towards the end of the season as to what the future's going to hold for them... But I don't know if we have any firm resolution. We certainly don't have the type of firm resolution that we had in season 3 where they were literally driving off into the sunset. We certainly don't have that this year."

Yahoo! TV review of 423... ‘Arrow’ Finale Recap: 15,000 Nuclear Bombs, 1 Arrow Robert Chan May 26, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/arrow-finale-recap-darhk-dead-oliver-becomes-mayor-131140251.html

Just About Write review of 423 (too lengthy to decide what to quote)... Arrow 4x23 Review: "Schism" (Be Your Own Light) Just About Write May 25, 2016 http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2016/05/arrow-4x23-review-schism-be-your-own.html

FanFest review of 423 (a very positive critique, but clearly in the minority)... ‘Arrow’ Recap ‘Schism’ BY JULIA VALENTI MAY 25, 2016 http://fanfest.com/2016/05/25/arrow-recap-schism/

Bustle review of 423... Oliver Becomes Mayor Of Star City On 'Arrow' & Paves The Way For A Brighter Season 5 KELLY SCHREMPH May 25, 2016 http://www.bustle.com/articles/163242-oliver-becomes-mayor-of-star-city-on-arrow-paves-the-way-for-a-brighter-season

Before this episode, I was convinced that Oliver's journey this season was to go fully into the light. To my surprise, he didn't. But upon reflection, I think I like the way the show has instead gone with Oliver's journey being toward acceptance that he has both dark and light inside him - and that maybe he needs both in order to be both the killer and the hero that the city needs. You can't be completely in the light and still kill. Killing - no matter how justified - is still a bit of darkness. I also like how they showed that there was some darkness in everyone, even the lightest of characters. Felicity, Diggle and Thea all have some darkness. On the other hand, the 'bad' characters also had some light - Noah and Cooper both partially redeemed themselves. Bottom line, instead of going with one-dimensional characterizations where people are either dark or light, evil or good, the show chose to go with more complex characterizations (except for the ret-conned Saint Laurel). I believe that's the more balanced, finalized version of Oliver that SA was referring to earlier this year. Some of my other takeaways from this episode (and this season): Introducing magic is bad for Arrow. Using nukes as the big threat is bad for Arrow. Having a shared universe with Flash/LoT is bad for Arrow. Fleshing out the supporting characters around Oliver is good for Arrow. Grounded, realistic fights are good for Arrow. Smaller, four-member team is good for Arrow. Oliver & Felicity together is good for Arrow. P.S. There seemed to be a ton more commercials during this episode than usual.

Vulture review of 423 (this is Jenny Raftery's last Arrow episode review!)... Arrow Recap: Quiet Riot By Jenny Raftery May 26, 2016 http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/arrow-recap-season-4-episode-23.html

Robert Dougherty's review of 423... Arrow S4: E23 – 'Schism' By Robert Dougherty May 26, 2016 08:44AM EDT http://www.themovienetwork.com/review/arrow-s4-e23-schism

411mania review of 423 (yay! another mostly positive review, graded "Very Good")... Arrow 4.23 Review – ‘Schism’ May 25, 2016 | Posted by Anthony Falco http://411mania.com/movies/arrow-4-23-review-schism/

Den of Geek review of 423... Arrow Season 4 Finale Review: Schism Kayti Burt 5/25/2016 at 10:13PM http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/arrow/255725/arrow-season-4-finale-review-schism

Two Examiner reviews of 423 (these are more hopeful and positive)... 'Arrow' season 4 finale recap: Finding hope Meredith Jacobs May 25, 2016 8:52 PM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/arrow-season-4-finale-recap-finding-hope 'Arrow' 4x23 'Schism' Review: Restoring hope Allison Nichols May 25, 2016 8:04 PM MST http://www.examiner.com/review/arrow-4x23-schism-review-restoring-hope

Blastr review of 423 (another nice read, if you want a change of pace from the negativity)... It's Oliver vs. Darhk with nuclear armageddon on the line in the Arrow season finale Trent Moore Thu, May 26, 2016 12:20am http://www.blastr.com/2016-5-25/its-oliver-vs-darhk-nuclear-armageddon-line-arrow-season-finale

JoBlo review of 423... TV REVIEW: ARROW - SEASON 4 FINALE "SCHISM" by: Alex Maidy May 26, 2016 http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/tv-review-arrow---season-4-finale-schism-937

Flickering Myth review of 423 (this somewhat more upbeat review was a relief to read)... Arrow Season 4 Episode 23 Review – ‘Schism’ MAY 26, 2016 BY JESSIE ROBERTSON http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/05/arrow-season-4-episode-23-review-schism/

TV Fanatic review of 423 -- c'mon, all these snarky comments about Felicity are so unnecessary and unwarranted (I'm dropping TV Fanatic from my media list)... Arrow Season 4 Episode 23 Review: Schism Lisa Babick at May 26, 2016 12:41 am. http://www.tvfanatic.com/2016/05/arrow-season-4-episode-23-review-schism/

ScreenCrush review of 423... ‘Arrow’ Finale Review: ‘Schism’ Snoozes Through Darhk Ending, Mayoral Twist Kevin Fitzpatrick | May 25, 2016 http://screencrush.com/arrow-season-4-finale-review-schism/

Collider review of 423... ‘Arrow’ Season 4 Finale Recap: “Schism” – Let the Nukes Fall Where They May BY DAVE TRUMBORE May 25, 2016 http://collider.com/arrow-season-4-finale-recap-schism/

I'm posting this article here (instead of in the Starling City Times thread) because it's an interesting behind-the-scenes look at Arrow stunts both in general and in 423 specifically - James Bamford and stunt coordinator J.J. Makaro talk about stunt-making and also how they created Oliver's S4 finale battle with Damien Dahrk... 'Arrow' Stunt Team Breaks Down 'Braveheart'-Esque Season Finale Action Sequence MAY 25, 2016 6:00pm PT by Sydney Bucksbaum http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/arrow-season-finale-action-sequence-897510

EW recap/review of 423... Arrow finale recap: 'Schism' BY JONATHON DORNBUSH Posted May 25 2016 — 11:38 PM EDT http://www.ew.com/recap/arrow-season-4-finale

#Arrow, #ArrowFinale, #Olicity, #We Miss Olicity and #Dahrk trended...

A.V. Club review of 423... Another Arrow season just sort of ends By Alasdair Wilkins May 25, 2016 11:00 PM http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/another-arrow-season-just-sort-ends-237351

I like the Felicity to Cooper idea. I think Cooper is in the finale because Nolan Funk tweeted: