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Well, Katie Cassidy's running a fashion blog - of course she'd tweet about any and every fashionable thing she gets her hands on. I don't think Emily's personally getting Jimmy Choo's for free, but no doubt the CW is either getting them for free or at a very, VERY discounted price.

The Flash's budget would have to be higher since they have meta humans and need to do special effects. I wonder how much higher it is though.

Another thing that drives me crazy is Oliver's hair growing out and yet somehow he can trim his beard. Slade must've been super pissed about Oliver's relationship with Shado and not let him borrow his scissors, because Slade was able to keep himself nice and clean-cut. It's interesting that with Felicity not being a natural blonde, they hired a blonde to play her mother. I wonder if someone will make a comment about her being a bottle blonde too?

Jeez, sorry. I was posting from my phone. Deleted.

Dialogue tease from the premiere:

It seems like she's obsessed with Arrow though, not Oliver, which is new. And not really all that surprising considering the City's positive opinion of him this season, I mean...I may or may not be a sucker for a hooded crime fighter, just saying. Can't blame the ladies of Starling for swooning although taking it to Annie Bates level is unnecessary, haha.

The only reason I even entertain that idea is because the producers said that his feelings for Felicity are part of his arc for the season, so I don't think they'd shy away from going there in the monologue. Although watch them do away with the "My name is Oliver Queen" thing entirely, haha.

His monologue will probably mention him being a hero, and I wouldn't be surprised if he mentioned Felicity helping him find another way.

I think it's less about being "goth" and more about having Felicity do a complete 180 looks-wise. Since this show relies a lot upon flashbacks, it's easier visually to have the characters look as different as they can too. Sara with the bangs in her pre-island flashes, Oliver with the douchey coif and no goatee in his, longer hair in the island flashbacks...it makes it easier for the viewer to differentiate where they are in the story. I'm sure the look has something to do with her character development too; whether that's because she's hiding from something or trying to distance herself as much as possible from those days, I guess we'll find out in November.

Yeah, I think they misread. There's nothing in that THR that indicates he'll be in more than one ep.

I don't know, when Felicity first joined up with Oliver and Digg she said that after they found Walter she wanted to go back to being a "boring IT girl." She's always been confident in her skills and enjoyed her work, but I think that meeting Oliver and taking up his cause showed her that she could use those skills not only to make a living, but also to effect change and do work for the common good. That's something she obviously wasn't doing in the IT department at Queen Consolidated. If her past is as exciting as it seems to be, there could've been comfort in the "boring IT girl" status quo, so it's not necessarily meant to be a knock - she might've found value in the monotony of her life. But now she's found something else that she loves, and Oliver helped her realize that side of herself. It feels true-to-character to me.

She seems pretty upbeat and excited jumping on her boyfriend. :)

Well, she came from a single-family household in Vegas and probably didn't have a lot of money and spent a ton of time on schoolwork instead of worrying about her appearance, I imagine. Plus, I wonder if they're going for the visual effect of her doing a complete 180 in her present life-bright clothes, light hair, etc.

She never said she would've been a waitress in Vegas if it weren't for Oliver, she said that if she she had accepted her life, she would've been a waitress in Vegas like her mother.ETA: that came off kind of catty, which was not my intent, it's just that maybe I've watched that part so many times I know it by heart, sadly.

Just for the record - there isn't any confusion on the "business partners" line as the EPs have presented it at all. Oliver catches the criminals, Laurel prosecutes them. I think I might have been the one to make it confusing because I expressed my worry that they might try to make Oliver and Laurel ACTUAL business partners too, just to throw a curveball. One of the show's directors posted a pic on Twitter of Stephen and Katie in Verdant in plain clothes (Stephen is behind the camera), and given the fact that Oliver lost Verdant at the end of last season but still maintains the Arrow cave in its basement, I just started to wonder how he managed to do that (it could easily be explained away by him just regaining the asset since losing it in the first place was ridiculous), and part of me wondered if maybe we were going to be thrown by the writers by having them be business partners in Verdant too. I probably should've posted this in the speculation thread, but it was accompanied by actual spoilers, so...yeah. Sorry about that.

I'm a sucker for the face-cupping kiss too, and yeah. He's being tender, not grabbing her. If Oliver and Laurel are literal business partners, I'll find it ridiculous anyway so to me it doesn't really matter where she got the money to go in.

It does make it less real if one or both of them isn't in their right mind to consent, whether it's what they subconsciously/consciously want or not. I want this to be face value, I'm so tired of thinking everything with the two of them is a trick, haha. That being said, I am prepared that this might not be what it looks like.

She's just changing her hold on him though-it looks like she had her hands wrapped around his elbows and is sliding her fingers up to grip his wrists. There isn't anything about her face or body language that looks like she's surprised by what he's doing.

Yeah, if Laurel's gonna be out sucker punching people in hospital beds (I mean seriously, the guy has a cast on), dispensing her own shady kind of justice, I could get behind that. Although it should at some point have ramifications on her job, because she's just doing it right out there where everyone can see? Not smart. Apart from the fact that I have absolutely no interest in do-gooder Laurel (my friend calls her Snorel), I don't buy it for a second. Every time I see that clip of the punch, I laugh. Not in a "this-is-so-ridiculous" way (even though it IS ridiculous), it's just such a punk-ass thing to do that I'm genuinely amused by it. As for Oliver and Felicity, I'm still really surprised that they're (almost) kissing, because those are the faces of people who are all in. I always thought Felicity would back off because she didn't think Oliver was serious, but she doesn't seem to hesitate for a second in that clip (and like the others mentioned, that doesn't seem like their first kiss?). Now I'm back to thinking she's going to tell him she's going to move on with her life when he breaks it off. That scene is going to be harder to watch than I thought, after seeing this.

Also, WHAT is this about? Is the DA for real punching people in hospitals? What kind of justice?

No, I mean, what if that conversation isn't the angsty one? I always assumed that the declaration of feelings would happen during the scene where they were breaking things off. Something can be real and raw without being angsty (especially since I believe the quote was that they have a real and raw conversation about what they mean to each other), and what better time to lay it all on the line than when your closest friend is in the other room bringing a new life into the world? Then the date, then the break-up/break off.

I always thought the "real, raw" conversation and the "declaration" was going to happen after the date right before they break things off and be all angsty, but what if it happens while they're in the waiting room waiting for baby Diggle to be born, and that kiss is the culmination of it?

It's either "Felicity" or "I love you." But I'm going with "Felicity."

He's saying her name, nevermind yes I watched it that long

He's talking to her as he goes in for the kiss and I need a profile lip reader, stat