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Well, we know they've filmed with baby mama, so the likelihood of that being the "surprising and emotional" story they're talking about is pretty high. Could be that Felicity just doesn't like whiskey or whatever that is - I'd choose water, too. It is sadly plausible though, and it doesn't bode well for future dramatics if Oliver and Felicity lose a baby right around the time he finds out he has a kid. I'm going to hold fast to Felicity just not being a whiskey drinker, and the kid being the story.

Thea's suit used to be to Oliver's left, so it looks like hers got the boot.

David Ramsey was talking about how Diggle considers Oliver and Felicity his family. He's been working with them for over three years now, and has been working with Thea and Laurel for six-ish months. This is probably an actual plot point in the episode, not anything specifically meant to exclude Laurel and Thea, who are new to the team and naturally wouldn't be as close to Diggle as Oliver and Felicity are.

I know it's just the pattern/texture, but it kind of looks like velour.

He's got little snack bowls out on the table, bless. Seems like Vandal Savage crashes, so rude!

Cisco gave her his heart, and she gave him a pen!

It is, for the most part.

Cisco's vibe?

IDK, he says "this" correctly right after. Momentary relapse!

Why does Oliver say, "Where'd you get thish?" in that scene with Diggle? Your tongue okay, dude?

This horse is so dead that not even Laurel could exhume its corpse and revive it via Lazarus Pit.

Super Charades? Yikes, man.

QUENTIN DEATH ANVIL #WHATEVER

He can be all fatherly until the paternity test comes back negative, okay?! Because seriously, wtf would they even do with a kid on this show?

This is the kind of fan service I like, similar to the Star City name change. Other than making him look stupid, it doesn't have anything to do with the plot, so yay!

Ugh, he's going to be Van Dyking it. Do not want.

Yeah, I mean, she's not telling Oliver not to help John. She's telling him not to do some dumb shit to help John. Oliver is ruled by his emotions and his willingness to throw everything away to help someone. She's reminding him to look out for himself. There is absolutely nothing wrong or disloyal about that.

I absolutely do, if Oliver was getting ready to do something stupid without having all the facts, which it seems like is happening. I really think we need full context and a little more information about what's going on.

Well, I mean, they've set that up already. Laurel having irrational belief that her chained-up sister just needs to look at some family photos to get right again. Diggle seeing his zombie brother walking around murdering people. There's no way they're not going to bond over that. No way. She will be pro Diggle doing whatever to get Andy back, because that's what she did. And we know that Oliver and Diggle are going to have a parting of the ways when it comes to dealing with Darhk - SA said so. This is probably where it starts. It's typical Oliver to make an emotional decision and go in blind, just to help his friend. It's a nice idea, but it's also okay for Felicity to remind him to keep focus - they're playing a long game here, too.

I think we need to see context first, because I do believe that she'd tell Oliver not to go undercover for Darhk just for Andy Diggle. I think it depends entirely on how Andy's introduced back into the plot line, and what exactly Damien's proposal to Oliver is.

"Hope. Inspiration. Don't lose sight of that. Not even for John."

Yep, hated a lot. Hopefully it turns out that Andy isn't Andy Andy, and just reanimated corpse Andy who has no restorable soul. I wonder if this is where Oliver and Diggle start to differ on how to deal with Darhk? BUT SERIOUSLY WHY DOES OLIVER HAVE TO GO UNDERCOVER, THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF QUENTIN

Isn't that the whole point of Quentin this season?

Oh yeah, that's right. He didn't know what was going on, just that he was going after these people on his father's list. I'm curious about what makes him want to do that, although I don't have any faith at this point that it'll be even remotely good, haha.

I think this season is pretty great, so I wouldn't say that LoT is ruining Arrow. It's just that the not-so-great parts of it thus far, by and large (apart from those moronic flashbacks) are in service to getting LoT off the ground. The chances of the writers writing shitty arcs that people would've hated if LoT wasn't in the mix is high, but it is in the mix, and the writers are writing shitty arcs because of it, so it's getting some negative focus for that.