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I loved this. I ignored everything that seemed out of place or took me out of this and just enjoyed being taken on this journey of an episode. I started crying with Beth's goodbye and pretty much didn't stop the rest of the episode. I absolutely loved all of the callbacks to earlier things, Gerald McRaney, William, the interaction between all the ages of the kids, and I even am okay with the train metaphor. Mandy Moore is absolutely stunning. That last speech by William knocked me into full sobs. I love the idea of him leading her through to the end. I said it last time we saw the aged up daughters of Randall, but that casting was amazing. I could honestly see all of them as grown versions of the younger ones. I don't know how they did it. My husband is currently working out of town and called me to say goodnight just as Kate was getting to the house. Thank goodness, because I needed something to take me out of this. There's a few things that made me go hmm... but in the end this episode was absolutely beautiful.

Same here. That song makes me melt.

It was such a small thing, but I really noticed Milo trying to be Kevin instead of Jack in the scene with Mandy. He changed himself just enough to immitate his vocal patterns and posture. Seriously impressive.

I know everyone likes to hate on Lyndsey, but I really think she means well. I think she springs into helper mode to get validation that she never got as a kid. I also think she said one of the smartest things ever last week when Mark was talking about living in his childhood home and she said she wasn't going to compete with the past. She talked about it this week too when he talked about living in that apartment and not making many changes. He needs to move forward and something is really blocking him from doing that. Get a therapist! My husband's mother had been dead since he was 20, before I came into the picture. One year for his birthday he asked me to make his mom's friend chicken for him. Is there a recipe? No. He just knew she used Crisco. I have never fried chicken in my life and as much as he tried to not show it, he was disappointed in my effort. Not because it was bad, but because it wasn't his mom's. He eventually recognized that this was an unfair request. Mark is like that, expect he doesn't realize how unfair he is being by asking Lyndsey to insert herself into the role of his mother and grandmother.

I think it's the therapist in me that really wants to like Lindsey, but she is making it so so hard! This show is soooooo edited, and I am certain there are things we are missing or things that are put in the wrong place, but she really isn't coming across well at all. I don't think Mark is the beaten down doormat we are seeing either. I want these two to work, because when they have their good moments they look so natural together and like they are having so much fun. It's terribly painful when they are arguing about all the percieved slights though. Katina's bodysuit thing she was wearing at that last meal made me double take. It was so close to her skin tone I thought she was naked at first. She has long and thin limbs and could really wear some clothes well, but that bodysuit was not one of those things. O's tshirt was obnoxious.

The "queen" thing reminds me of Chicago Nate. *shudders* Ick.

I don't buy for a second that O was happy to see Dr. Pepper. His first thought was defiitely not, as he said on the show "perfect!". His first thought was "I wish I could walk away but I just shit my pants so I have to stay seated". Or something along those lines.

Watching Mark and Lindsay with the experts solidified what I said about last week's episode. If they can get some individual and couples therapy, I really think they will be okay. Lindsay seemed to be accepting of what Pepper said to her, she just needs some time and reminders to put it into place. Not to mention, she's clearly never dealt with the rejection from her mother. When Mark said he's never been asked that question before about turning into his dad, I literally yelled at my TV "That's because you've never been to therapy!". All he had to do was reach out and hold Lindsay's hand when she was crying and vulnerable and clearly wanting his support and he was just frozen. They have some cute moments, and can say positive things about each other. They just need to do some work on themselves to make it better.

I absolutely see this. They have such big communication problems, but that isn't something that can't be overcome. When they are on, they are really good together. But Lindsay is so defensive and Mark is so passive that everything becomes such a big deal when it doesn't have to be. If they went to a real marriage counselor on a regular basis they would learn to talk to each other and hear each other and things could be great.

Resident therapist here to chime in with a pet peeve! School psychologists do NOT do counseling in schools. They do testing and assessments for students who need IEPs. It is typical for there to be only one for an entire district. They are still overworked, but their job is not to do therapy with 3000 students. School COUNSLEORS, however, are Master's level counselors who have been trained in counseling. They are the people you would want to send your kid to after something like this. They are also overworked and have huge caseloads, but they do counseling. The unfortunate stereotype is that all they do is scheduling and are inept at everything. I went to graduate school for school counseling, and I also have my professional license and I work in a private practice. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

I love Kim and Penn and I am not ashamed to say it! They worked in media before they gained social media fame, so the foley task seemed right up their alley. I was nervous when they were on the race because I really like them and sometimes you see a bad side of people on these shows, but they really do have a great partnership. They clearly love each other and they LIKE each other. Having been married so long they know how to communicate with each other and how to handle each other when they get emotional. It was so nice to see a partnership like that on this show. Actually, all three of the final teams were this way. I didn't really like Dusty (not generally a fan of the dude bro type) but Ryan knew exactly what to do with him during the rock task when he called him up to take in the view. And the girls were also so supportive of each other, never getting snippy or catty. This was one of the best final three I think I've seen, and the order of finishing was exactly what I wanted.

Why did no one call him out on this crazy talk? At least one of those other guys had to have thought this was over the top and scary, right?

I agree. Thi would be a different question if they were in their early 20s and moved right from their parents house to marriage, but I tried really hard to understand the sentiment behind his idiotic words.

Here's what I optimistically think O is trying to say: I want a partner who has life skills and can be independent as well as be a partner. Here's what O is coming across as saying: I'm a giant chauvanist and need a woman who cooks and cleans and you, Katina, are a baby who knows nothing about the world and I have to parent you.

I thought about this too. I was surprised when he didn't say that actually. Calling a Black man angry can lead to some serious consequences that just don't happen when you call a white man angry.

I must have missed it. I just think they way people are horrified and keep emphasizing "three bottles of wine" in all caps seem like it is understood that she put away 3 full size bottles, when it was more like 3-4 glasses of wine. That might be a lot, but she was on a plane on the way to her honeymoon. Why not?

I think that some people are missing the fact that airplane bottles of wine are not the same as bottles of wine you would buy at the store. 3 bottles of 187 mL does not equal 3 bottles of 750 mL.

I watched the first few episodes of the Secrets of Playboy on A&E and who shows up on my screen in defense of Hef and his bad behavior? Jonathan the wife pusher, of Jonathan and Victoria fame. Of course he's a Hef defender. Ew.

Dusty thought he knew how to make cheese better than the actual directions. Just follow the instructions dude. Emmy nomination: the greeter at the mat. His interaction with the girls when Dusty and Ryan started taking their lifejackets off was perfect. Apparently 6 pack abs translate to any language.

I was just thinking the same thing! My husband and I talk about things that happened in our day, other people we know and what is going on with them (not gossip, just news), and things we read or see. Even before he was incarcerated, these people did nothing other than be together and stay very insular. How long can you talk about the Bible?

I know, it makes me so sad. I am a therapist and would LOVE to see what would happen if she were able to get some real help. It would be a long road for an incredibly patient therapist, but she and those kids would benefit so much from someone outside of their world to help them understand and work through these things. There are legitimate Christian counselors out there who would work with them from that perspective. There are also a lot of "Christian Counselors" out there. I would love them to find one of the former types to help them.

This can only last for so long before she completely loses it. I honestly wish her a really good nervous breakdown where she can go somewhere and get the help and deprogramming that she needs. She needs to express some emotion and get some therapy. Let's take her to a Rage Room and then a fancy long term rehab.

The glassess...oh yes. I agree that they shouldn't have ever had him back, even though I am glad to see him and his story. I know they have had other people back who have had violent or out of control reactions but that one was probably one of the scariest things I have seen on TV, you could tell by CTs eyes that he just wasn't there anymore. People have also been banned and never to be seen again for things less violent.

I did not watch the Paris season, but his early Challenge seasons when he was just seething with anger at the world (for some arguably good reasons) didn't curry any favor with me. I remember after the horrible fight with Adam thinking that this guy has a Problem and needs some real help. And now I adore him. His personal growth is so admirable. And I need to give credit where credit is due, Devin was impressive with his memory skills. I liked hearing his story about how he got so good at these mental games. Coming up with that 20 digit number all on his own, on the first try, while physically and mentally exhausted is an impressive feat. I found myself not hating him a lot this season, which surprised me.

I'd love a recent update too. I was shocked she stayed sober, honestly. She seemed so out of it and didn't really care that she was sober. I didn't see that much of a different in her speech patterns, or over all presentation.