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I don't understand what the problem was with Kristen and Max hooking up when they were both single. I especially don't get why Stassi would even care. She was so desperate to make Kristen look bad she jumped on something that was none of her business and doesn't even sound like a big deal and made herself look like an ass. If Dayna is upset about the hookup and/or the fact that Kristen didn't tell her about it let her say she's upset (which Stassi wouldn't let her do with all her bloviating) and let her explain why it's upsetting so maybe we can understand. James continues to show how he is not a changed man. Again, he may have stopped drinking but he's still an asshole. His comments about Kristen were vicious and uncalled for. No one asked him for his opinion (nor should they) and seeing as how he and Kristen have been broken up for how many years he should have nothing to say about her sex life. Kristen needs to learn to take the high road though. She has a pattern of snapping back viciously at people when attacked, which is not okay. Two wrongs don't make a right and all and it makes her look bad. I agree with all of the comments above regarding Charli. I think she is definitely trying too hard and yet I love that she can get under Jax's skin, and her burns toward Brett all season were amazing. I am looking forward to the segment about Lala's rabid dog attack on Raquel because I'm hoping Charli's comment about Lala being jealous or having feelings for James will be addressed, although something tells me Charli will roll over for Lala. Sandoval was definitely shady when confronting Jax about the pastor AFTER Jax and Brittany had already fired him, but Jax was definitely the bigger asshole in that friendship. There was no way he and Brittany hadn't seen all of the pastor's comments when it had been brought up to them before. Jax has no right to expect his friend, even his best man, to show up to his "pre-bachelor party", which is not a thing. He was also caught lying (surprise surprise) about Sandoval not responding to his texts. And aside from the pastor thing (and the passive aggressive lame toilet papering prank that I almost forgot about), Sandoval really was on his best behavior regarding Jax until his totally justified (IMO) competing pool party. He went above and beyond at Jax's wedding, he took Jax's pettiness in stride, and he was also a good sport about the prank Jax and Randall pulled on him. With regard to Stassi, Sandoval was definitely in the wrong and nothing he says is going to convince me his behavior wasn't motivated by jealousy. I debated commenting on the blink and you'll miss it totally inadequate racist tweet segment because I am so emotional due to current events but I feel I would be remiss if I didn't say fuck Bravo, Lisa, and Andy for excusing and brushing off the blatant racism both Max and Brett tweeted. I don't care if it was ten years ago. They should have been fired. No one is owed a spot on a fairly successful reality show, and with a zillion other people who would gladly take their places, the network and producers (including Lisa) can and should choose to showcase the lives of those who have not made blatantly racist comments at any point in their lives (that we know of, of course). And Lisa can go fuck herself with her flippant remark about how if she fired everyone who made mistakes she wouldn't have any staff. Tweeting racist comments isn't a "mistake". I have never been more disgusted by this show and that's saying something.

I thoroughly enjoyed LVP on the early seasons of RHoBH. I wouldn’t say I liked her because I don’t think I’ve ever truly liked any Real Housewife but I found her entertaining. Even after she started to reveal the less likable side or her personality, I still rooted for her on that show because I found the other women to be so much more hateful than she was. But on VPR she is completely insufferable. She has been from the very beginning but it’s gotten worse with each passing season and this last season, when she no longer had RHoBH to promote herself, she was downright unbearable.

I don't think I can stomach another VPR wedding. I'm pretty sure Stassi and Beau chose to have a fall wedding because they wanted their wedding to be the season finale (which I find really pathetic) and the shenanigans leading up to it to be the entire season. Jax and Brittany's wedding wasn't the season finale because they had it so early in the summer. They were both too stupid to time it right. VPR usually films from the beginning of the summer into the fall. I doubt they will be able to film until late summer if at all given how strict the social distancing measures are in California, particularly because this show is unfortunately tied to the restaurant/bar industry of all things. It's also expected there is going to be resurgence of COVID-19 in the fall so it's likely places that have already opened up will have to increase social distancing again when that happens and travel will be restricted. Not a good thing if someone has a wedding planned, particularly in a harder hit area like Italy, which will surely be more cautious than other places given their experience before. If I were a network, I'd want to put off filming a reality show, which relies heavily on continuity, until at least late fall, if not 2021, to make sure that production won't get shut down in the middle of filming, and I don't think I'd want to gamble on international filming in the middle of an unpredictable pandemic either. I think scripted shows lend themselves better to filming interruptions because they can just pick up where the left off whereas the lives of reality show casts, which are the storyline, continue to go on when production is shut down. Scripted shows may have shortened seasons due to shut downs, which can negatively affect storylines (see the writers' strike in 2007/2008) but it's easier to account for a significant time gap if it needs to be accounted for at all.

I knew Jax wasn't going to be able to contain himself around LVP and when he pushed her she was going to bite and boy did she. As soon as he said "my show" I knew he was in for it. It is her show but she still came out looking like a narcissist because of the way she asserted this fact. Someone without a fragile ego would actually give credit to the entire cast but LVP made her entire diatribe about her. Also, I can't take another moment of any of the cast sucking up to her. Tom Schwartz is the worst as always. I want to vomit anytime any of them do it. Stassi and Katie continue to act like assholes towards Kristen. Their insistence that she was lying about breaking up with Carter and being sad about her relationship ending is so bizarre to me. Stassi and Patrick broke up multiple times and got back together. Were they not really broken up even though she said they were? Was she lying? Where is their empathy? It's the same question I've asked every episode since the first. Also, while I completely agree with Stassi about not wanting a cookie cutter farmhouse McMansion (I love character and don't want to live in a house built after 1929 myself), it's pretty tacky of her to throw shade at Brittany and Katie in the process of communicating her wants. It would be fine to say their houses are lovely but not her style, but that hasn't been her attitude. Her tone has been very disdainful about their style of houses, which is awful considering they're supposedly her friends. Oh James. He's so good about sounding sincere in his apologies and about his growth but then he once again slips up in his talking head segment. Where in AA or any recovery program do they advocate the view that "I'm just going to do my thing and if you can't accept I've changed then you can kiss my ass"? I've worked with a lot of people in recovery and am familiar with many different recovery programs and every single one of them has emphasized humility, and the people who are truly successful in their programs have a ton of it. He may or may not be drinking but I don't buy the personality makeover. He's getting the same edit they gave Jax last season. I'm pretty certain a lot of James' more unflattering segments were left on the cutting room floor. I simply do not care about the new people. It's annoying that Bravo waited so long to film the reunion remotely because I would have liked to see the previews for it.

I know Brittany says she wants babies but I wonder if they’ve put it off because it might jeopardize their role on the show. Ditto for Stassi and Katie despite them professing to want or be trying to have children. Does anyone want to watch these people have babies? The audience is barely tolerating them getting married. Being pregnant and having children will make it harder for them to act like drunken sloppy 20 year olds which is how they’ve maintained their roles on the show thus far despite being in their 30s. It would be a lot less fun/tolerable to watch them behave like they do when there are children involved. I don’t know if I would watch the show if they keep any of them on when they get pregnant and especially once they have actual children.

All of their houses, aside from Kristen’s, cost about the same amount. Stassi - 1.7 million Jax & Brittany - 1.9 million Tom & Ariana - 2 million Tom & Katie - 1.9 million Stassi’s house is in a much trendier location so I do wonder if there were major repairs needed. Based on esthetic I think Kristen‘s house, which is the smallest and least expensive, is the nicest. Stassi’s house just isn’t my style (strangely I don’t like the Mediterranean style or mid-century modern, which is basically every house in LA, where I grew up) and the outdoor space or lack there of and the fact that it’s hanging off a cliff, which freaks me out, aren’t appealing to me either. I have no problem believing they can all afford their houses so long as they spend responsibly (pretty sure Jax isn’t doing that) and they don’t lose income from the show. I doubt any of them paid all cash so they’ll be paying a hefty mortgage for the next thirty years. Stassi does make additional money but I would bet the majority of her income comes directly from the show. She’s in the best position but there’s always the risk that she will lose listeners/followers once she’s no longer promoting herself on the show. The rest of them will undoubtedly lose the majority of their outside income (appearance fees and the goods they sell) once the show ends or they’re fired.

I know I sound like a broken record but Jax is a psychopath. A psychopath is a person who lacks empathy and has no emotional attachment to right and wrong. Psychopaths tend to engage in very risky behavior, including drug use. Jax is definitely doing coke and has developed a coke addition. He has also used steroids in the past (remember the man boobs?) and I think he's doing both pretty heavily at this point in filming. I'd be afraid for his heart but he doesn't really have one. Jax is definitely to blame for the competing pool parties. His rage texting was out of control and it's totally reasonable for no one to show up to his party. I'm no fan of Tom Sandoval or Ariana but I was on their side regarding the pool party. Scheana said in her text message to Kristen that Stassi was talking shit about Tom and Ariana's house when what we were showed was Lala talking shit. I'm not sure if Scheana misremembered or if the part where Stassi talked shit was edited out (part of her and Beau's "hero edit" maybe?). I'm guessing it was the latter. I can't believe I'm going to say this but Charli is sort of growing on me. Her digs are seriously on point. I love her commentary on Brett. The rest of her is vacuous and stupid, though, so she works better as a friend of than a full time cast member. The rest of the newbies bore me. Dayna is not funny and definitely not as hot as she thinks she is but I was embarrassed for her when Brett loudly proclaimed he didn't have feelings for her after she had professed her feelings for him and stated on multiple occasions that he had feelings for her too. Brett is a total moron, and Max is a whiny immature prick. She can do better than both of them. Regarding James, I still don't 100% buy his total turn around, however, I might start to believe him if he apologizes to Kristen. I know she's gone after him since their breakup and their relationship was pretty fucked up on both their ends but that doesn't change the fact that he seriously wronged her. What James did to Katie was far less horrible than what he did to Kristen. If he's serious about his recovery and the twelve steps he definitely needs to apologize to her for using her to get on the show, cheating on her repeatedly and lying about it, and then bragging about both. Kristen strikes me as the type that would graciously accept his apology and move on if she felt it was sincere, though I'm doubtful she'd apologize for her own part in that mess.

I can’t imagine anything major happened with the courts closed or only taking limited numbers of cases. Maybe Bethenny and Jason have gotten to a point where they aren’t at each other’s throats (wishful thinking?) or maybe the initial order was that Bethenny was not allowed to show Bryn on social media until she was ten. I see Bethenny in her but Bryn still looks so much like Jason.

What Jax was describing sounds like bipolar but in his case I would guess it’s drug related. People on uppers (cocaine, meth, Adderall, etc.) can often present with the symptoms of bipolar disorder but it’s caused by taking and/or withdrawing from the drugs not a natural chemical imbalance in the brain. I also think in Jax’s case Adderall is code for cocaine, though he could be on both. On top of coke/Adderall I also think he does steroids so roid rage is another a possible explanation for his behavior. He was off the rails trying to pick a fight with everyone all episode.

Kristen's book isn't coming out until June 2nd so it's impossible to know how it will do in terms of sales. I'm not sure how well a dating book will go over coming from her. Then again, Bethany Frankle's dating book did fairly well so anything is possible. https://www.amazon.com/Hes-Making-You-Crazy-Even-ebook/dp/B082C5XRKD

It looks like you might be able to listen to the now deleted Pumped Podcast episode if you subscribe at the $5 level of the SUP on Patreon. I don't know if the link works or not but it might if you're willing to pay $5. The description of the $5 level says one of the benefits is "Patron-only episodes recapping Seasons 1 & 2 of Vanderpump Rules, as well as old episodes of Pumped Podcast". https://www.patreon.com/posts/pumped-podcast-3-34995531

Jax and Stassi were broken up both times he and Kristen slept together. People always get this wrong in part, I think, because Stassi acted as though Kristen had slept with Jax during their relationship. I'm not saying it was right for Kristen to sleep with Jax because a) it's always wrong to sleep with Jax, b) Kristen was still very much in a relationship with Jax's best friend, Tom Sandoval, who, granted, had cheated on her multiple times including with Ariana, but two wrongs don't make a right and Tom had never cheated on Kristen with one of her friends (to our knowledge), and c) sleeping with your friend's ex without their blessing is not cool, although I wouldn't put it on the same level of terrible as sleeping with a friend's current partner. Sandoval had every right to freak out over the hookup (not about Kristen cheating since he had done the same thing to her multiple times but her sleeping with his friend) but Stassi's reaction was overblown given the situation. In the Stassi/Beau/Kristen debacle, I think everyone is wrong but Stassi is the most wrong. I still don't understand why Stassi hates Kristen so much. Kristen hasn't betrayed Stassi in any way since sleeping with her ex, which she has more than made up for by allowing Stassi to live with her and helping Stassi get back on the show by filming with her and she facilitating the reconciliation between Stassi and Katie. She also, as has been pointed out by Kristen a billion times, introduced Stassi and Beau. It looks to me like Stassi is insecure in her relationship (like she always is) and wants Beau to choose her over Kristen to prove his love for her, which is a shitty reason not to want your boyfriend to be friends with someone else. That said, Kristen shouldn't expect her relationship with Beau to stay the same if she and his girlfriend aren't getting along. I'm more conflicted about Beau's position. On the one hand I don't think he should be overly friendly with someone his girlfriend doesn't get along with, but at the same time, if he like many of us doesn't understand or agree with Stassi's vitriol towards Kristen, I'm not sure he should be expected to totally drop her. I don't think they should be hanging out alone together, obviously, and Kristen should absolutely not complain about Stassi to him because that would be inappropriate, but it shouldn't be a problem if they were friendly in a group setting or even texted platonically so long as there was no negativity about Stassi in those texts. Dayna's reaction to Scheana seemed meaner than it should have been. While I agree that it's inappropriate to spring a psychic on someone to talk to their dead mother (I don't believe in psychics so I would be annoyed for totally different reasons), Scheana wasn't being mean spirited and the anger directed towards her seemed way too extreme. Dayna was pissed before she found out the psychic was practically on her doorstep. Also, Dayna's reaction to Scheana's lie was unfair, IMO. Scheana was clearly lying about it because of Dayna's reaction to the idea, not because she was trying to deceive her for some malicious purpose. Dayna's cool girl facade totally cracked with her reaction to Max hooking up with another girl. It clearly bothers her and she's obviously delighted that he's bothered by her hooking up with someone else. Why should she care if she's totally over him? Clearly she's not. As always this season, too much Lisa Vanderpump.

@LibertarianSlut You can talk about any previous season in the Past Seasons thread. Speaking of VPR podcasts, I have never listened to them (well, I did listen to Stassi's podcast for about 6 months to year before it got annoying and stale—I never liked her on the show but I found her somewhat likable on her podcast in the beginning before it got popular and she was allowed back on the show), but I remember that there was one really popular VPR podcast that imploded for some reason and split into two. I never understood what exactly happened because I didn't listen to the original podcast, just read about it here. The drama actually sounded more interesting than whatever was happening on VPR during whatever season that was. Was Sexy Unique Podcast one of the ones that resulted from the implosion? Does anyone remember this or did my COVID-19 brain make it all up?

Don’t be ridiculous. Rich people do cocaine. 😉

Lisa Vanderpump leaving RHoBH was the worst thing to ever happen to this show. She was always less likable on VPR than she was on RH but we didn't have to see her as much. Also, it feels like the cast members lavished praise on her less in previous seasons or the editors cut more of their praise out. Now that she doesn't have RHoBH she's desperate for screen time and she's making this show worse. And the sucking up the cast members are doing doesn't make me more impressed by her. It makes me like her and them even less. Do they think the audience is buying what they're selling? I seriously want to vomit every time they talk about how amazing or sexy LVP is. I pretty much hate all of the cast members with the exception of Kristen because I feel so sorry for her. She's clearly hurting and I have this thing called empathy. Stassi and Katie should try it sometime. Again, it's not that they have to stay friends with her or that she's behaved perfectly but the way they're going about breaking things off is so incredibly cruel, it's hard for me not to root for her. Beau and Stassi may not be the most hateful people or couple on this show but they are the most annoying. Watching them is painful in a totally different way than watching Katie and Shwartz or Jax and Brittany. Those four are competing for the title of Most Odious Couple. I'm not interested in either of their first or second weddings. Jax saying his first wedding was better than Schwartz and Katie's second wedding was just pathetic. Not that it matters, but I thought Schwartz and Katie's first wedding was far better than Jax and Brittany's tacky never-ending only wedding. You can't really compare anyone's second wedding (to the same person or a different person) to another couple who have never been married before, to each other or anyone else. I strongly dislike all of the new cast members and I hate all of the old ones (except Kristen). I think this show has jumped the shark a few times and if it weren't for this forum and the pandemic I would probably have given up on it a few episodes ago.

The average lifespan of a woman in the United States is 80 so 40 would be middle aged. But “middle aged” is not used in a literal sense. It refers to people in their 40s and 50s usually. I wouldn’t call anyone in their 30s middle aged even if someone in their late 30s, which Scheana is not, technically is close to halfway through the average lifespan because that’s not the common meaning of the term.

What Katie did to Kristen this episode was so incredibly cruel and very middle school mean girl. Even Stassi knew it was wrong and seemed uncomfortable with it. While she won't directly challenge Queen Katie she's smart enough to know how badly it was going to look, which is why she kept saying "Kristen is going to be very upset" multiple times. Brittany also knew that it wasn't going to look good and that's why I think she brought it up to Kristen on camera. She wanted to make sure the audience knew that she wasn't on board with what Katie did. Katie invited every female cast member and "friend of" and left Kristen out. There is no way Katie would have invited all of those people if she hadn't wanted to hurt Kristen. Katie is not a welcoming person and she wasn't friends with most of those women. Now Stassi is doing the same thing with her wedding. With friends like those... I don't buy what James is selling. He is a very good manipulator but his track record speaks for itself. He may or may not be drinking but I don't think he's sincere in anything he says about drinking, being sober, or being a changed person. He's repeating lines he's heard others say and sometimes he can sound very convincing but I don't believe him. His conversations with Lisa are nauseatingly fake on both ends and hard for me to watch. If he's stopped drinking it's because he likes the praise and attention it brings him not because he feels true remorse for his behavior. I don't even like Raquel, but Lala has managed to make me sympathetic towards her. Her attacks were way out of line. Lala is really on a high horse and I for one can't wait for her to come tumbling down. Who says they have to put someone in their place? I can't think of a single situation where that would be an appropriate thing to think or say. Being the fiancé of a successful producer has made Lala even more full of herself than she was at the beginning of the show. The prank wars were so freaking lame. TPing a house? I thought that practice peaked in the 1980s and ended in the 1990s. Even though Sandoval was lame for doing it, Jax is so vile it didn't bother me. It couldn't have happened to a more deserving person. The revenge prank was more sophisticated, but the appropriateness of of it depends on the person being pranked. Sandoval could take it so it was fine, but it wouldn't have been okay if the target had been someone else. I'm a little uncomfortable with Randall pranking someone on his productions who, presumably, depends on him for a job. The power dynamic in that situation means the person being pranked can't really say anything if it made them uncomfortable. Even if it happens at the end of production, if the person isn't a good sport about it they may not get hired on other productions. Maybe I'm just sensitive because I know people who work in Hollywood and have had to put up with a lot of shit (including sexual harassment) because speaking up could get them fired and blackballed in the industry. Scheana is so embarrassing and Brett is a moron. Those two are perfectly matched in the IQ department. They're both very shallow and self involved too. Brett was being an ass during that interview. Scheana is not middle aged, and even if she was, it's a rude thing to say that about a woman, particularly in the entertainment industry. I wish these new cast members and "friends of" (including Raquel, even though she handled herself well this episode) would go away.

I think the issue with Bethenny buying a bunch of masks to distribute how she sees fit is that it means governmental agencies can’t buy them (and they’re trying) and distribute them how they see fit. Governmental agencies know which areas and hospitals need them most. They have more information than any private citizen or agency does. This is why trying to use the private sector to do the job of the public sector doesn’t work.

Custody exchanges are considered essential. I live in California and am under a shelter in place order and have been for some time (I live in one of the first counties to enact it) and you're still allowed to go out to the pharmacy or for groceries and things like that. You can go out for walks even. You can go out for a custody exchange as well (my friend shares custody with her ex and their custody agreement still stands). Even in Italy, where they are under a full lockdown (one step above shelter in place) people are still allowed to go out for groceries and to the pharmacy, etc. so I'm sure custody exchanges happen there too. I don't know what parents with joint custody are doing in China, where people are literally unable to leave the house (or were). ETA: Bryn should not be visiting with the grandparents. That would not be considered essential and for their safety, as I am sure they are in the high risk group, she should not have physical contact with them. Hopefully they are doing regular video chats.

There are so many place names like that where locals, and in the case of famous places, everyone, pronounces the name differently than it should be in its original language. Case in point Los Angeles. It’s a Spanish name and should be pronounced Lohs Ahn-he-les but almost everyone all over the world calls it Las (like the Las in Las Vegas) An-Gel-es. Most native Spanish speakers from Los Angeles pronounce it “wrong” too. Sometimes I do hear people says “Lohs” but Las is still more common. At first I also snickered about Ver-sales (not Brittany specifically pronouncing it that way but the region) until I remembered the County I was born and raised in does the same thing with a Spanish word.

Jax is a true psychopath. Always the victim in his own mind. Able to pretend to be the bigger person sometimes, unlike a narcissist who would never have let Sandoval come to the wedding let alone be in it, when he feels it's advantageous to him, but it's not truly sincere as he admitted in his talking heads. I am so sick of Jax and Brittany's wedding. I don't remember Scheana and Shay's wedding or Katie and Tom's wedding feeling like such a drag. It makes my skin crawl how everyone, especially Stassi, is sucking up to Brittany and Jax. They are both terrible people and their wedding is so tacky and I just want everyone to admit it in their talking heads or at least not be so exaggerated (and fake) in their praises of everything. The way Jax behaved about the order of Sandoval and Schwartz was embarrassing. I don't even like Sandoval but I felt bad about the way it was handled. They could have switched the Toms without being cruel about it. Sandoval handled it really well. I don't care what James said on WWHL, I don't believe he's nine days sober, let alone nine months. He's another psychopath, but smarter than Jax so he's less obvious about it. He's a better liar and a better manipulator. I don't think he has an empathetic bone in his body nor does he have the humility it takes to overcome addiction. He's also a compulsive liar so I don't know why anyone would believe anything that comes out of his mouth. Raquel is in an abusive relationship and I hope she gets out, but I still don't have any interest in her and want her off my TV. Watching her try to think is painful as is her voice. I don't think she's faking the emotional/verbal abuse, but she is also using it to get screen time. She still doesn't deserve to be treated the way he treats her, though. While I have my doubts that she would have stayed with James if he wasn't on the show, she may also love him. With her it's hard to tell because she's not very bright so everything sounds shallow coming out of her mouth. Katie is so insufferable. Someone needs to knock her off her high horse. I wish she would be demoted to Raquel status. What does she even add to this show? She's not fun to watch. She has some legitimate grievances with Kristen but she looses all sympathy from me because of how mean she is.

That conversation between her and Tom, to me, seemed totally staged, planned, and rehearsed, and her reaction seemed rehearsed as well. She sounds as if she’s reading lines (poorly) when she talks about her depression. I know not everyone’s depression presents the same way. I don’t know what about my above post would give you the impression that I think depression can only present one way or that I am looking for specific behaviors or words. I specifically said the conversation between them sounded rehearsed and didn’t really make sense given they live together and she’s had these feelings for a while. Again, it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have depression but she and Tom have definitely staged/rehearsed things, and it feels very forced to me.

I don’t think most viewers would have an issue with Tom bringing up Jax and Brittany’s decision to have a homophobic pastor officiate their wedding had he done it before they replaced him instead of after. It seemed very (poorly) calculated to either a) create drama to secure his place on the show, b) emphasize that he and Ariana strongly opposed this pastor making them look good (backfired, obviously), c) make Jax look bad (worse) by pointing out that he didn’t replace the pastor because of his homophobic views but because Lisa told him to, or d) all of the above. There was no point otherwise because they had already gotten rid of him Ariana should not go to the wedding without Tom. If my significant other was disinvited from an event I would immediately decline to go myself. Even Raquel got that one right, though James’ response to her telling him about Peter’s party was creepy. Brittany was being an asshole again this week by trying to pressure Ariana into going to the wedding and making her feel bad about not going. If someone was disinvited from my wedding I wouldn’t expect their partner to go without them, and would be completely understanding if they decided not to come. Her self absorption is really shining through. Jax asking Randall to be in his wedding was the most cringeworthy thing I have seen on this show and I include all the things Scheana has done to embarrass herself. Seriously, I had to skip ahead because I couldn’t watch, something I’ve never had to do before. He’s so transparent. His remarks about Ariana’s sexuality were disgusting and shows exactly why he was fine having a homophobic pastor officiate his wedding. Lala’s shit talking Ariana was also vile. I don’t even like Ariana, but she and Tom were the only ones to stick by Lala when everyone else hated her. Where is her loyalty? I would understand if Ariana had done something to Lala to make her turn on her but it’s clear she’s just adopting the views of the “cool girls”, who have finally accepted her into their fold because her partner is wealthy and connected. I suspect her Kristen hate also stems from them because I don’t think she and Kristen are close enough for her to share the same grievances that Stassi and Katie have. Ariana’s depression seems so inauthentic just like all the other storylines she and Tom cooked up for previous seasons. She may suffer from depression but she isn’t authentically talking about it on the show, and Tom’s responses to her sounded just as inauthentic and rehearsed. First of all, the conversation they had made it seem like that was the first time they had talked about her emotional state, which, if she is truly depressed, they would have talked about previously. Every season they seem to have some issue that is solved by the middle or end of the season with a good heart to heart like a sitcom episode ending and I don’t doubt this will be the same. They are terrible actors and creators for that matter since they can’t come up with a believable storyline to save their lives. Again, Ariana might truly be depressed but she’s not presenting it authentically on the show if she is.

He is in the opening credits, unfortunately. He’s with Tom Sandoval, Ariana, and Brett.

It doesn’t matter whose customers they were. Stassi shouldn’t have yelled at him in front of them, at least under normal circumstances. It’s just hard to be outraged by her behavior when his was, IMO, so much worse. It wasn’t just rage texting her, which would be wrong no matter what, but the anger itself was wrong. She was not at fault in that situation so getting angry with her was wrong. She got approval from the majority partner and had discussed details with Schwartz. If there was a staffing issue that was on Lisa and Schwartz, and his anger should have been directed towards them if they agreed to the event five days before without confirming there was staff available or it was on the bartenders who bailed last minute if there had been more time to plan. That said, Stassi and Beau would look better if they admitted (and thought) Stassi was wrong to yell at Sandoval, but especially in front of those patrons no matter whose patrons they were.