MamaMax

GRAPE PIE?

yeah me too, since he seems to have been sucked into the manosphere and also likely hangs with a bunch of militia types if he's at a lot of gun shows

I am hearing gossip that Kody and Robyn's driver licenses were suspended? Anyone know anything about that?

"The BLOUSE is an XXS and the skirt is an XL but who cares all clothes are one size fits all, if you try hard enough!"

This is a blatant lie; you are all trying to use the law to make it so I am NOT free to do as I wish. I neither ask for your permission nor your blessing to live my life as I see fit. And UNLIKE YOU, making choice available does not ever prevent you from doing what YOU see fit. It wouldn't force you to terminate a pregnancy, force you to use birth control, to seek gender affirming heath care, participate in a same sex marriage. But you have decided that YOUR religious convictions should dictate MY behavior.

I 100% think Kody wanted to “reconcile” w Janelle in order to delay having to pay her back any money. The way he greeted her in the restaurant was so fake and then the “as shucks I thought we could work it out” was not convincing AT ALL. And when she was like, dude what are you smoking, we’ve been over for like a year, his demeanor immediately changed to anger. He doesn’t give a single solitary fuck about Janelle or her feelings. He should - and I can not stress this enough - go fuck himself.

If he was upset by it, I would guess it was because his parents made a big deal about it. "SO TERRIBLE!" "UGH SO SAD" "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDRENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN" My parents used to use sleep away camp as a threat, they told me that's what kids whose parents wanted to be rid of them did in the summer. I grew up afraid they would send me. Then I met kids who went to summer camp and literally had the time of their lives and I was like <huh?> Parents shape SO MUCH of how kids see the world.

Personally I don't believe in soulmates. It's a fairy tale concept to me. I believe in love, in chemistry, in making a decision to live with and love someone forever and then doing the work. Christine and David (at this point in the timeline) are in the hormone-heavy, exciting salad days of a romantic relationship. I also think they are a good match and will hopefully be happy together. I sincerely hope they don't find out any big surprises about one another. I just don't believe you can really know someone in such a short time. (Just listen to the podcast Betrayed LOL.) I REALLY dislike her attitude about her kids' feelings. Personally, as a mom, I would be prioritizing their feelings. But I think its another example of the parentification of the Brown kids. The kids are talking like the adults "I want her to be happy but its so fast" and Christine is acting like a petulant teenager "You cant stop me."

I think her other kids behavior is also evidence that Robyn infantilizes them all. If she helicopters the neurotypical, I can imagine how she is with someone neurodivergent

she might be. petite means short, I think 5'3" or less. I have bought things in petites if the sleeves run long in misses size, guess i have short arms lol

2 I think Robyn is a deeply emotionally damaged person and is trying to undo her childhood traumas by creating for her kids a "real" version of her fantasy of a "perfect polygamous family." She has obvious abandonment issues stemming from her bio dads disappearance/ rejection of the family. Then her mom spiritually remarried a "polygamous" man who wasn't a real polygamist - he just had a second family on the side. (IIRC, this was the Sullivan, who she calls her dad but is not her bio dad). Then she (shotgun?) married a major player in the UAB who wouldn't live polygamy, reportedly was abusive, and couldn't provide financially for her or the kids (at least not to her her standard). Her attempts to whitewash this part of her life were SUPER obvious at the beginning of the marriage (the creepy portrait of K with the kids, having her kids IMMEDIATLEY call Kody daddy), continued until Kody legally married her (I think that was her insistence so she couldn't ever be discarded as "not a real wife" like her mom). Her "just sittin on the porch with her sisterwives" fantasy was her ultimate pie in the sky. That would prove that Her beloved dad wasn't just a cheater! See?? Polygamy could work and be legit and everyone can be happy and get along!! Except all the things she needed to feel secure and safe with Kody, and that he then provided for her, were the things that drove her sisterwives away. Kody said that he could never satisfy Meri. I'd bet my bottom dollar that what Meri really wanted were all the same things Robyn did... but she thought she couldn't ask for them, couldn't insist on them because she KNEW they would destroy the family because she understood polygamy. It's about women pushing down their jealousies, subjugating their needs and desires. It is SO patriarchal in its very design that it was hilarious that Kody claimed her never was patriarchal. Of course you were, its just that your OG wives made it easier for you. Now that you care about one woman's emotional well-being and the other 3 could see you didn't care about theirs: that was the end of the family.

It occurs to me that Kody's so mad bc he thought he would be the prophet of his own little compound up on coyote pass. He wanted the big house, the whole family there WITH EVERYONE REVOLVING AROUND HIM. This is what appealed to him about polygamy, the idea of being the sun on his own solar system. The only elder, the (ahem) PATRIARCH. And he’s butt hurt because the women wanted something from him in return… I mean, how’s a man supposed to give equal time to 18 kids and 4 wives and then grand babies too?!? Oh yeah. He can’t. That’s why polygamy sucks.

THIS!! Seriously, she came into the marriage with nothing. Not a dime to her name. Three kids. No job. Claiming she ALWAYS wanted to live polygamy. She got her needs met, a home, food, clothes, sister wives and a husband she appeared to be very hot for. WHAT DID SHE SACRIFICE? Other than having to deal with Kody, of course. I guess its the same as her crying over not getting a "perfect Christmas," she didn't get her "perfect life" or "perfect sister wives." Join the club, Life is rarely perfect for anyone, ever.

I also had to handwave some of the cluelessness about Jewish culture - but I live in NY... would LA people who are relatively worldly people really have no idea? Like, Kosher food?? Duh. That said, its a cute show and ill still watch. I don't think Noah will have to choose -- I think we are looking at a show about how she not only falls in love w the rabbi but also falls in love with the faith.

My sister in law, at a Jewish deli in NYC, ordered a ham and cheese sandwich sigh