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Nice continuity in this episode. I do agree, it has gotten to the point where if you aren't PC to the highest level, you are screwed. What doesn't teach any of these people is no matter what. There is going to be something to offend people, and they will take something the wrong way. Hell, my own father-in-law was offended I picked up the phone for him because he was giving my his grandson a piggy back ride. But how dare I make his life easier since I was right next to the phone and picked it up for him. He also got yelled at later by both my wife and my mother-in-law for being so stupid about the situation. We try to be good people and no matter what, someone is going to take something the wrong way. It's like someone who decides to sell some stuff off on EBay because it's laying around the house and share the auction on their facebook. Then some relative thinks that shows you have financial problems and you can't talk about that. Sadly we have become a very PC society and it has gotten very ridiculous.

Exactly, also I think that Shira basically grew into a role where everyone acted like they were high and mighty, so she did too. I mean why not? She had the money, she was a Huntzburger and she never had a public opinion on others. She kept things behind close doors and people who didn't know her background never called her out on it. Shira calling Rory "not good enough" because she was an opps by two people who didn't get married and then live the rich and entitled life from day 1 wasn't enough. Even though while she was from a rich family, she basically threw things around, slept with people and landed Mithcum by seeing her stick turn pink and then deciding to be the good little rich wife. While Mitchum slept around and did what he pleased and built his empire. So, hence why Richard then lost it when he realized that Mitchum would say that Rory didn't have it when his money and business decisions got him to where he was. Instead of offering advice or actually letting Rory do work or improved he basically just gave her the critique and she crumbled and basically was right since Rory was still acting like that 32.

Oh yes. From what we gather, Shira was a shot gun wedding because she didn't really have the track record and everyone knew it. Also, why Emily and Richard had a hard time believing that she would tear into Rory about "not having it" when she came from a much more questionable background. Add into the fact that Logan's grandfather wasn't the most honest guy either and apparently Mitchum was similar too. Why he basically showed up at the restaurant out of the blue and basically was like: "you realize this isn't going to work right?" Before just slipping away after his little "talk". Shows that Logan did become like his father from both his empire to how he thought he could have his cake and eat it too. He just saw that in the end, Rory couldn't do that and he let her go. The problem was, having a baby now thrown in the mix (if it his baby) put him like Christopher, but I see him where he goes: "No, I'm supporting and showing up for this kid."

No, I do believe those were always meant to be the final 4 words. Even with AS-P leaving after season 6 and her talk about needing a season 8 and her spin-off with Milo never going through. In my mind, it was her way of spinning off the series to be about Rory living the life Lorelei went through except not having a job but a college degree from Yale. Basically "Rory got her childhood and teenage early adult life, now she will see what her mom went through." Kind of feel, which if you look at those final four words and AS-P's look on her series, I can bet that was always the plan and if the series didn't get green lighted it was along the lines of: "Well, guess you have to fill in what happens yourself."

I still love the phone call, Emily's rant the DAR and the wedding. Stand out as my favorite parts, other parts were meh outside of Rory and Christopher or even Luke telling Lorelei he wasn't going anywhere. Even the Dean scene was great. But everything with the LADB basically showing a bunch of rich guys who can't grow up. Rory and Logan acting like they are Tristian and Isole and throwing in the Paul joke just before the final 4 words. Comes off as Emily put it: "Bullshit" and basically leave it so AS-P and her husband can possibly get another season out of Netflix and while Kelly Bishop is still alive.

It was also like with Rory's situation with Katherine from ER. The woman was suppose to be a smart woman who fought early on to be very successful and a jokester. But she was a drunk who apparently fell up to success and then gets one minor insult and she throws her lawyer at something because she is a spoiled kid. Which is it? You can have someone successful who likes to be funny, but is smart and might have a secret that she isn't proud of, but doesn't hide. Then gets into a misunderstanding. Instead we are suppose to feel that it's: "Poor Rory she is out of a job again." When in fact, she didn't do anything wrong or even show hints that she was going to "destroy" her like the lawyer said. It's all to drive that Rory is struggling and can't make smart decisions, when she could have a problem with a stable job, but can fall back on a trust fund and so forth. Yet, we are suppose to believe that she can fly back and forth from the UK. Mitchum has eyes on her and Logan all the time and she still can't go buy new underwear. I mean come on that's too much and it comes off as filler and the creators trying to have things both ways and it makes everyone come off like an idiot.

I indulged the last 24 hours due to some in Emily's words: "Bullshit" going on right now and taking care of a sick wife and son. Reviewing, besides Mr. Kim's appearance and actually showing some real friendship I haven't seen between Lain and Rory in years. I see the view of Rory and Chris's meeting a bit more. While I think Chris continued to be the classic: "I just let people tell me what to do." I can understand him staying out of Rory's life more and feeling that Lorelai was the better for raising Rory than him being involved and his focus on Lorelai. Hearing he was in a relationship and accepted everything now. That was more of a finished story with Christopher just like with Emily. I still love Emily's story the most, her telling off the DAR and moving on with her life. I know AS-P didn't want to add any other crap with families like the Huntzburgers and other characters we saw over the years. I loved how she told them off and her doing everything was stupid. I mean it was thoughts like that kept trophy wives out of the DAR and people like Shira and other women in the DAR as just that: "bullshit". I would have loved if Emily would have finished saying: "One day you will be dead too and no one will care about this because younger women don't care now." I also enjoyed Dean's end of the story, such a better send off, him happy, kids, life moving on so much better. However, with Rory and Logan, it painted them both as complete idiots. Logan didn't learn anything in the end, even Mitchum showing up and basically saying: "You are me after all." Because yes, Logan has done that, he married to keep things in the family or knocking Shira up with Honour and then her "playing the part". However, he still very smug asshole. He might have been right, but people like that who like to call the kettle black have such egos that when they do die. The only people who care are their families and others go: "glad that asshole is dead." Other wise, AS-P focus on basically Lorelai and Luke still stuck in season 6 with attitudes from April to not getting married after 9 years was too much. Melissa Mcarthy looked great by the way, but her scene was kind of off by so much. Final scene, whatever. If there is a 2nd Netflix series, then I think we could finally see AS-P and her husband actually try to focus on something new instead of being stuck in the past.

The problem with Taylor, is that AS-P put more on how Taylor just wants attention and be remember. I'm not talking about the situation in Winter with the septic tank, but everything from the Gay Pride Parade and pieces of the musical. It just said: "This man has no life and honestly should just retire and leave town." Kirk's problem is he is still trying to be like Taylor, but no one wants to have another Taylor. Plus, to find out that Kirk and Lulu after being married almost 8 years are now talking about kids? Umm... what? They didn't get any younger, in fact Sean Gunn has really grayed so much in the last few years. You are really trying to point out that Lulu who would be close to pushing 40 would now want kids? Especially after being a school teacher and loving kids even the ones that Kirk said at one point: "Would make any person go crying home." Time lines and actual progress for what Kirk and Taylor should have been doing since the end of season 7 or at least season 6. Just don't make sense at all.

That's the best analogy I have ever read about the two and brings the points home perfectly. What could have help both characters was Chris admitting he was a screw up, and made steps to improve. An example would have been telling Emily he wasn't going to be her Yes Man or going to Luke early on and saying: "Lorelei and I have a child, but the ship sailed years ago and we just can't make it work." Then going with Luke just realizing he needed to stop being "keep it to myself" and actually say how he feels, stop trying to avoid situations like the wi-fi issue in Winter or how he acted with April. They did that, they would have both come up looking better, but sadly they don't want to and AS-P didn't want that to change, she wanted her Fun Garbage and Reliable Grump.

Right and you can even take it with April going: "I hope that doesn't happen to me in ten years." A good parallel there, but knowing the creators of the show, it wasn't suppose to be thought of like that. The musical was just showing AS-P for favorites like Suttcliff or Jared with Sutton, where she just "has" to put them in even if it makes no sense for such longer screen time when she was never part of the series to begin with. I agree with everyone else, just the first act and reaction would have been fine. I would have rather had the time spent more on Rory's POV on things and why she is acting the way she is. Actual talk with Luke and Lorelei on their issues and even more of April going: "I'm able to legally drink, dad." "I'm not a doll, and you love Lorelie, stop acting like everything is yours and not ours."

Like I said over in Fall, you can tell that AS-P and her husband never watched season 7. All the work on Luke and his relationship with April and finally putting Anna in her place never happened in AS-P's eyes. Making Luke not only look like an asshole, but also makes no sense since April is in her 20s now. Yet, that whole situation disappears again by the end of series, so why AS-P had to bring up: "April is mine!" crap makes no sense especially almost a decade later.

Completely agree, or if they would have just left Paul a thing in Winter and that what drove Rory to hook back up with Logan. Having him basically become Mitchum minus the kids. AS-P sure loves her parallels with her characters. It was like Anna, who AS-P said was suppose to be the anti-Lorelai. Where Lore was upfront with everything, she decided to run away, do things her way and keep things to herself. Anna decided to not be upfront, keep her parents in the loop, but Luke out and it was her way or the highway and how dare anyone want to have a relationship with her previous April. Of course this also re enforces that the AS-P and her husband never watched season 7 when Luke was still acting like April was his kid and Lorelai still doesn't have a say in things. Especially when said daughter is now almost DONE with college.

YEs, Sutcliff has grayed more the last couple of years. He was on Rookie Blue a few years ago, and you could see the gray touches. Still looked good, wish I aged that well. I do look younger than I am and I get it a lot, sadly my hair is not as good as Rick's.

How true. Unlike what the showrunners of season 7 did, which was try to make things clear up and put all toys away by the end. They said when they were told it was over they wanted it to be an ending scene like the first episode of the series. A "full circle" if you will. AS-P and her husband's full circle is basically that Rory would have the life that Lorelai had just minus the teenage pregnancy and having a job and a parent who would support her no matter what. Who believes a father figure isn't important. Having it happen at 32 instead o 22/23 if the Palladinos would not have left the series in a huff of rage like they did when season 6 was coming to an end. Because they couldn't have season 8 like they wanted. It just rubs me the wrong way because in the end, Rory comes off like a moron and I will refuse to believe that Paul is the father, if they want to keep it they did finally end things in Summer. I rather go with Jess being the dad and leave the Hutzburgers behind for good.

Oh because it's like Christopher and Lorelai, could never move on from each other. Sex was soooooo great! Just like constantly forgetting to break up with Paul. After Spring, he should have been gone instead of: "Damn, keep forgetting to break up with him." So, basically since the series began, AS-P wanted Rory to end up like Lorelai with a "hot" baby daddy who can't have the balls to either man up or something. I mean, the living with fiance he was living with. Sorry, i highly doubt the Comic con Cosplayer or Paul are the father of Rory's baby. Most likely, she will have a girl too and the Gilmore name can continue. The musical was too much. AS-P is still full of herself and apparently wants to get a Bunheads rival too. I can see doing another season of Netflix Gilmore Girls, but this was too much. The wedding, nice.

Yes, good to see Jess again.

Completely agree. Now, when Emily went into her rant in the aftermath, that was long needed not only for Emily to bring up the bullshit of what she blamed her parents for. However, at the same time when Lorelai said: "Full freaking circle!" I was like: "About damn time she said that." I agree, with flaws others have pointed out. Rory not having the spine to break up with Paul despite everyone from Lorelai to hints from Luke to end it was too much. I'm sorry at 32, when you are sleeping with someone else, time to move on. Zach has not aged as well as everyone else, but damn I kill for that hair.

The problem with even seasons 1-2 is you see a lot of inconsistancies with episodes and even character interactions. Why I still say season 2 is truly the best season out of the show. You can see the entire crumbling with Christopher coming from a mile away and everything with Max is poorly handed. Plus, Jess comes off as such an ass that even before his major character assassination in season 3. Someone should had smacked him and gone: "Get over yourself!"

Sometimes I think the writers but debunked or current conspiracy theories in a hat and then pull them out and go from there. Even when they are ones that would not be something Junior would even care about or along the lines of: "This happened before I was even born, who cares." Similar to Diane is "evil" and go to very illogical ways to enforce it.

Plus, Cam can't say: "the goat ran away either". You are bonded in a rental contract on that and you have to pay a premium. Of course, how the goat died wasn't logical. If it had been a sheep or hen, then that would have worked fine.

Yes, because Christopher was AS-P "special snowflake" for the series. It was always: "Poor Christopher." or "It's not his fault, it's someone else's." He was never called on his shit the the closest was when Luke got into a fight, because really, someone needed to kick his ass or at least show him that not everyone was going to just forgive and forget. Something I always saw that is what was done to Luke. He bent over backwards for everyone, from his family to Kirk to Taylor and even Anna. What he get out of it? Destroyed diners, daughters kept in secret, hounded by law firm associates and being the butt of the town's jokes at times. Not one time did anyone go: "Let's just leave Luke alone." or "You know, let's do something for him since he does so much for us." Nope, that was Christopher, I think he could have killed someone and the police would have magically looked the other way or lost evidence like an episode of Desperate Housewives. Because it was never Christopher's fault and everyone did that.

Yeah, I remember reading on the IMDB about how Mike would react to Eve having sex at all and I was in agreement: "19 year old girls have sex?" "Shock I tell you, shock." The problem was, we once again had some long term person that Eve has known or been dating and we didn't see them until this episode. I get that casting characters regularly has been a problem with LMS. However, the scene was played like: "Eve is no bringing guys home to have sex because her life was over not getting into West Point." Instead it's: "They were seeing each other for a while, and when I guy and girl want to have sex, they will do it." Umm... came off really, really weird, not to mention, who was this guy who has never been mentioned in the last couple of episodes? Just like why Kyle and Mandy were missing wedding bands during Thanksgiving or how Vanessa is stupid enough to pick up a ceramic turkey with oven mitts on? Oh wait, remember Vanessa had a PhD, but no intelligence and the prop department didn't go: "opps, our bad."

Taylor and Kirk in small doses was fine. However,when there was such a focus on both them, it was too much. Such as Kirk wanting the same house as Luke or the Fiddler on the Roof episode (shutter). Taylor's reaction to "moving" the Dragon Fly or how he was so hell bent on having to involve Luke in his crazy plans was too much.

Completely agree, Shira and the grandfather came off so out of the blue. With Richard's reaction, Rory and Dean had been together for a bit, but at the same time I wanted to go: "They are in high school." Of course, in Richard's mind, he was still thinking of Lorelei and Christopher back in high school, which was such a pigeon hole thing that the show was so stuck in. I mean, one of my unpopular opinions is I wanted everyone to get over themselves. It was such a focus for the entire series about: "Lorelai made a mistake in high school" that got us our sweet princess Rory. That's all everyone thought of or focused on for decades. No one could move on, no matter the progress, success in life, ect. It was always back to what started everything in the first place.

That's what I said during the original airing and so forth. It was made worst when Richard ended up finding out what Mitchum said and Mitchum told Richard: "If she did all this because of one thing I said, then I was right." Richard didn't have a come back, if anything, I think Emily bitching the wife made more sense. I mean, how dare she said that Rory was unfit for Logan, when she married into money. Had come from a very dark past and it was known that Mitchum and even Mitchum's dad were known to be on the border with cheating with them. How Honour ended up so level headed and sweet is beyond me. When you looked at their parents, Logan's "bad boy, thrill seeking" made sense. Honour went the other way and was down to Earth. So, when it comes to Emily's smack down, that was fine, it was Mitchum's that I thought was ridiculous not only how Rory took it, but then how everyone thought that Lorelai had made up the disastrous dinner and the critique at the paper that day. I remember Richard saying himself: "I doubt that's what happened." No, it was EXACTLY how it happened dumbass. That's exactly it, both Richard and Emily lived in this short sighted bubble of how things should be and how dare anyone call them out on: "That's not how the world works." Of course, reminds me of my own in-laws who had the same view on things (generational thing I guess). However, how many times did Richard or Emily have to be smacked upside the head with these facts and then acted like: "Lalala, no that's no real, stop lying to me, look a rainbow!"