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This post just made me laugh out loud. OMG amazing. I think that Lisa and Kyle have a relationship that has a strong foundation and they will weather any issues between them regardless of who tries to come between them. Dorit, if she were smart, would not try to touch that relationship but she is gunning for the two of them with gusto. I don't think that Lisa will betray Kyle in favor of Dorit. I think she's got Dorit's number and will absolutely be more careful of what she says around her from now on.

1,000 times this. Teddi fell for the oldest trick in the book. Kyle was crying so that meant she was hurt and therefore her feelings were more valid than Lisa's. She never listened to Lisa's explanations (how could she with Kyle yelling in her ear any time Lisa tried to explain) and just assumed Lisa was the problem child. Have Lisa and Teddi ever spoken for longer than five minutes? I usually like Teddi but she was out of line tonight. Shush....it's not your business.

Anyway.... It continues to be sad and troubling that Farrah is allowed to speak to people the way she does. Did she call a realtor a rookie for sending her an email to tell her it was inappropriate to go to someone's house and ask to look around? Open Houses are incredibly invasive. What kind of person just pulls up to someone's house and asks to look around because there's a For Sale sign out in front? She's scary. God help us if she ever buys a gun. Amber's complete disinterest in being a mother is sad to watch. And she thinks that she can replace the fact that she's absent by calling Leah pet names and kissing and hugging on her when she is around. I dunno what to say about her anymore. I wish she would realize the damage she's doing. I hate to say it but I really think that when Leah grows up she will resent Amber and they will have a highly combative relationship where Amber will blame Leah for being disrespectful when Leah kind of has every right to be.

I think this is a huge problem with how mental health is viewed in this country. "Most people" would do what now? How does anyone know how "most people" handle anything? This reminds me of cops who come to people's houses and decide someone's family member slaughtered them because he didn't cry hard enough or show the proper amount of emotion. Cate had a miscarriage and from what I could tell it was for a kid she and Tyler desperately wanted. I don't think "most people" would handle that by just popping into their therapist twice a week and then getting on with their lives. Depression isn't something you handle when you get a minute. It takes over every second of every minute of every hour of every day. Which is where the disconnect comes in for those of us who don't suffer from it. The going attitude "Everyone has shit to deal with, what is so bad that you can't get your shit together?" is annoying and unhelpful to people who know very well they are annoying the hell out of everyone around them but they just can't pick themselves up. There is an underlying feeling of Cate having done this for attention and from what I saw, this was hardly a cry for attention. She wasn't living life, she wasn't getting back up, she was failing to cope. And she was talking about suicide. And putting her in a hospital for two or three days may have made her feel better for those two or three days....and then what? What is more disruptive to their daughter? That her mother is gone for a month or that Nova walks into a room to see her mother crumpled on the floor in tears without warning every other day? Every single friend I have ever known who has suffered a miscarriage suffers in silence because of this type of attitude and these types of judgmental questions. And I, for one, don't think someone has to show an appropriate amount of - whatever - in order to check out of their life for a minute and figure it out. If you (I mean you in the general sense, not you as in YOU) don't get it, then don't get it...but stop making people feel like they are weak because of doing this. It takes an INCREDIBLE amount of strength to admit you can't handle things. I feel for Cate and for Tyler, because watching it happen to someone you love isn't any better than living it. I wish them both healing. It was hard to watch.

My friend had it done. She has to constantly be cognizant of what she puts in her mouth all the time. And how much. And if she eats too much or eats the wrong thing, she gets very sick. Yet she still has to get her calories in and she still exercises just as hard as I do. All the surgery did was drop the weight off of her. It is up to her to keep it off and she works very hard at it. We have another friend who had it done and she's gaining weight. She doesn't get it. Keeps asking my friend why she's gaining weight. We know why. She posts enough on Instagram for us to know exactly what she's doing. She eats crap and sits around. The surgery will fail for her because she expected to get it done, eat whatever she wants, not do any exercise and lose weight. That's not how the surgery works.

She's gonna....take off her glasses. Really....really....slowly And then speak with deliberate sentences so as to instill....*eyebrow quirk* fear......

I'm sorry, but the moment I pulled up a "fold" and found maggots? I'm out. Sit there in your own filth and eat yourself into a blob....there is no amount of money or love that would have me dealing with that shit. And her attitude as if she was bad ass while lying in a bed? Fuck you lady. Come get me. I'd sit on the other side of the room and throw grapes at her "Here, this is what you get."

I could not stand this woman. OMG. If I was one of the crew people who had to film this woman I would have left, she creeped me OUT! All the manipulation about sex....gross. Herbert was a pervert. He didn't love her...he just wanted her to blow him every time he gave her food. Blech! There was not a single tear coming out of her eye when she was in the ER. What a complete and total baby. I hope her daughter gets away from her immediately. Her wailing in the ER was ridiculous. Let her wail and cry herself into a puddle. Close the door. She does it because people react. Ugh...disgusting.

Not from where I sit. Insecurity - again for me - is born out of thinking everything is about you. What people say, what they do, a look they may throw your way....all about you. What they said, probably had nothing to do with you - but you think it did. What they do, probably had nothing to do with you - but you think it did. The look, probably not meant for you - but you think it was. And then you get sad and weepy and suddenly everyone is asking you why. Satisfying your need for....making it all about you. You never asked if what they said or did had to do with you...you just assumed. Because defenses went up before you ever knew if what was said was really meant for you. I use "you" here in a completely general sense. Not "you" as in you personally.

This right here. This is the problem. Kyle never asked her how she felt about what she was just told. Kyle just decided Lisa was peeved and therefore she should have reacted the way Kyle decided she should have. That's selfish. When she didn't, Kyle decided Lisa had hurt her feelings and started crying. Painting Lisa as the bad guy. That's manipulative and calculating because Kyle needs everyone to know that it's big bad Lisa always hurting poor defenseless Kyle. And it's not the first time she's done it. She cried at dinner with Dorit when Lisa didn't react to something the way Kyle expected her to. Kyle is about as manipulative as they come when it comes to Lisa. She decides how Lisa should feel about something and when Lisa doesn't, Kyle gets mad. None of this is Lisa's fault. Lisa was completely within her rights to handle what she'd been told about Dorit any way she chose to handle it. Once Kyle told her what Dorit had said that ended her responsibility as far as Lisa was concerned. This is not third grade.

Insecurity - for me - is an inherently selfish quality in a person. It says to me "I expect the world to bend to my will." Kyle expects Lisa to behave how she thinks Lisa should behave and if Lisa doesn't do this, Kyle throws a huge big baby fit because her feelings get hurt and then she paints Lisa as the bad guy for hurting her. Lisa didn't do anything last night that I would deem as so hurtful Kyle needed to display the level of histrionics that ensued and I would guess Lisa felt the same way. Kyle needs to learn to communicate with Lisa and not do things she "thinks" will make Lisa react. She should have asked Lisa during their little hair/make-up session how Lisa felt about the situation and if Lisa felt like she wanted to handle it right then and there. But she didn't. She took it upon herself to decide she already knew how Lisa felt. That is selfish. This is why she and Lisa will implode eventually. Because of Kyle's desperate need to always make it look like Lisa has done something to her. My ex-best friend used to put me in this situation all the time. We are no longer friends because of it. Lisa is not the bad guy simply because she chose not to handle the situation the way Kyle did. However, if Kyle had left her discussion with Dorit to just "Hey, I am angry about what you said about ME." then I'd have been on her side. But she didn't. She dragged Lisa into it because what Dorit said about Lisa was worse and Kyle needed to amp up her argument. So tell me...who's the more calculated here?

I hope the kids of those two parents from yesterday's episode get great grades and scholarships to get the hell away from both of those parents.

But why? What Lisa chooses to share with Dorit doesn't have anything to do with Kyle. This type of thinking exhibits nothing but jealousy and insecurity on Kyle's part. Lisa has shared many more deep things with Kyle over the years I would imagine. Why does Kyle care so much that Lisa told Dorit some passing comment - which she doesn't remember or acknowledge as truth now - about her parents ignoring her? Dorit also went and told that information to pretty much anyone who would listen...which I would assume will prompt Lisa to never tell her anything again. Here's the thing. Kyle is super insecure in her relationship with Lisa. Maybe that's partially Lisa's fault, maybe it's not. I've not seen enough to say one way or the other. What I have seen is an overwhelming amount of evidence proving that Kyle is insecure. And that most of the time, it has little to do with Lisa, but more to do with her. Like I said before, Kyle expects Lisa to behave and speak in a certain way and when she doesn't, Kyle gets mad. Kyle expects Lisa to feel a certain way and when she doesn't, Kyle calls her out or tells her how she feels. Neither of these things are going to work with Lisa. This is what I mean by Kyle is stupid. A decade of friendship and she hasn't learned how to handle her relationship with Lisa yet? She is jealous of Dorit - which is so stupid there aren't even words. Lisa is very aware of the shit Dorit has pulled and Kyle knows that, yet Kyle is concerned about her standing in Lisa's life and Dorit pushing her out. If Kyle were smart...which she isn't in this situation...she would sit back and let Dorit hang herself. Which is what Camille is doing. Camille thinks Dorit is full of shit, her happy little smile every time Dorit opens her mouth tells me all I need to know on that front. Lisa will see what Dorit has been saying about her and that will be that. If Lisa had somehow pushed Kyle out and allowed Dorit in (which I don't see ever happening) then Kyle would have a leg to stand on at the reunion when Lisa would inevitably have to eat crow about it. It's sad to see Kyle do this and reduce herself to tears and then somehow blame Lisa for it. What happened last night was 100% Kyle's fault for working herself up in her head rather than allowing Lisa to handle it on her own.

Kyle is usually someone I can get behind but not after seeing that last night and not after how she's behaved concerning her issues with Lisa this season. Look, either be her friend or don't. I'm tired of the shade whenever Lisa does something Kyle doesn't like. Kyle went after Dorit, but it wasn't to defend her good friend Lisa, at least not under the surface. Kyle did it so she could show Lisa that SHE was the better friend. It was a very desperate "LOOK! I don't talk about you behind your back like this. I found out and I'm defending you!" And when Lisa didn't act accordingly, that's when Kyle got pissed. There was nothing about that entire scene that didn't serve Kyle in some way. And when the masses didn't turn the attack on Dorit, she got mad. Kyle has a script in her head. She adheres to that script with the grip of a goddamn shark. She sees everyone reacting a certain way and when they don't...she gets mad. She expected to slam Dorit into the ground and that everyone would follow and no one did except for Teddi, whom she didn't care about. Lisa apologized to her....like 1400 times....but it wasn't the apology Kyle wanted to hear. Kyle wanted Lisa to walk over to Dorit and say "Hey, you're an asshole and we're not friends anymore." because Kyle feels that's what's happened with Lisa towards her. She needs to stop telling Lisa how to feel and not allowing her to speak. Kyle is that typical woman who starts crying when she knows she's full of shit and has no argument. I've never really seen Kyle as stupid until last night. But she's stupid. It's clear to me that Lisa cares about her but Kyle constantly has to test that and I don't get it. Eventually Lisa will get sick of it. She went down a few notches for me last night. I found her behavior childish and extremely passive aggressive. "LEAVE ME ALONE!!" *Lisa apologizes* "YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ME! I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT! LEAVE ME ALONE!" *Lisa apologizes* "I'm so tired of not being appreciated! You don't appreciate me." She's a baby and it's no shock to me her sister, Kathy, doesn't want shit to do with her.

His mother was very critical of everything he did. Insecurity would definitely manifest when you spend all day being told everything you're doing is wrong. She was also super duper manipulative and would start crying or get angry if he dared express an emotion.