Chicago Redshirt

An aside: I first heard of Turkish Delight from reading The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. The titular witch uses it as a way to tempt one of the heroes into betraying the rest. It sounded so good reading about it as a kid, but when I actually tried it as an adult Ii was disappointed because it was NASTY (at least to me). That shiznit would not have made me betray anybody! Anyway, I assume the writers were deliberately doing a reference to that by specifying that candy. They were also infusing Zemo with serious pedo/creep vibes.

A pretty big step up from last episode. Yes, there was some issues with suspension of disbelief. I don't see Our Heroes AND Cosplay Cap/Lemar AND the Wakandans all losing Zemo in any universe. How no one stuck him with a high-tech tracker or better restraints than handcuffs, I don't know. The notion that the funeral for Mama Donya was a super-secret thing that only Zemo could figure out is a tough sell. The notion that Karli, who rationalized blowing up a building with people inside and threatened Sam's nephews. paused for a second after killing Lemar in the heat of battle, let alone seemingly felt remorse, not buying it. I think for all the great action of the series, what makes episodes like a cut above is the philosophy and the quiet moments. I loved Ayo and Bucky talking, Zemo and Sam talking, Sam and Karli talking. Pretty much all those conversations I would have been happy if they were increased. Like I want to know why Sam would be so adamant about not taking the serum if he had a chance. I imagine most people suspected Walker was going to get the serum and break bad. But the way he did it was chilling. I thought he was going to use the shield to behead dude, and I'm glad that the editors showed some restraint. I fear he is going to go after Ayo and her crew just for some petty revenge now that he's jacked up.

Fair enough. Although it could simply be chalked up to Deon not being the sharpest knife in the drawer. You are right that they did not seem to explain Deon very well. As far as the other Force representatives seem, they were never actually human presumably, but were anthropomorphic versions of the same, seemingly, at least judging from the Speed Force. Maybe it will turn out that Fuerza, Psyche and now Deon (who didn't get a Cisco-approved nickname, right?) are all humans with connections to their forces the way Barry is connected to the Speed Force. I don't see the big deal about Deon's energy being green as opposed to some other color. But for what it's worth, green was the energy affiliated with the Turtle, and the energy is supposed to be similar to Turtle energy, so making it green seems as good as any color choice. Yep, it is coincidental that as Cisco and Chester started trying to set up their detectors, there was something unexpected to detect. It was pretty apparent from STAR Labs perspective that there was the big dome where Cisco, Chester,, Deon and others were, and various smaller pockets where time was going awry, and that there was also a wave that washed over Central City that arbitrarily changed items into analogues from other time periods. The particular Masonville dome was not mentioned by Cisco and Chester because they spent their energy trying to see if they could find the person responsible and nullify the event by going into the town, rather than trying to see if there were weaknesses at the edge of the effect. I want to say that Legends literally used a dinosaur, a sub and Roman soldiers to show that they'd screwed up time badly in a season premiere bit ago. So it's unimaginative and cheap. It is a common thread that time travel often has unpredictable, illogical and unintended consequences. So all the efforts of Deon to enjoy his time loop day had the side effects we were shown. They didn't necessarily mean just pulling things from past Central City. It could mean pulling things from other places in both space and time, alternate dimensions, etc., to modern-day Central City. Pretty sure Deon did not know what he was doing on multiple levels. Deon's resetting the time loop was seemingly meant only to affect in Masonville. The Speed Force cares that it is Barry's favorite blankie because the Speed Force cares about Barry. It took the form of Nora because it wants Barry to feel comfortable, and it worries in this episode that move had an unintended effect of making Barry uncomfortable. I don't think anyone is acting like the Speed Force is Nora. They are acting like it is a human-like entity. Which it apparently is. It has feelings, it has motivations, it can be wounded and presumably even killed. So it can feel alone and unwelcome, or it could enjoy company.

I thought about that too, but 1998 Deon is aware of our present, Deon's future, or variants of the same. So he would be familiar with Mah Homie. Although I would say it would have been better to have him compare himself to someone who was established as an all-time great by then like Joe Montana, Troy Aikman or Brett Favre. I don't get how Deon is a "time god" if he also was a normal high schooler at some point. I also don't get how as a time god he can't just manipulate time so that he does not have whatever accident and he goes onto NFL glory. Or why he needs a pep talk from Chester to realize it's a pretty limited vision to force people to live through this loop because of his football issues. Yes, I know that there was a lampshade thrown over the injury that it was a "fixed point" but that doesn't seem to be a Flash/Arrowverse concept, unless I'm missing something. Any point in time can be undone,, as far as we've been shown...it's just that the consequences for doing it can/will be a bitch. Also, to the extent of their being fixed points, it seems weird that Deon's football injury would be one of them. Anyway...puny time god. I'm probably overthinking what is basically an excuse to throw together some 90s slang and fashion and have fun. But even there, I think it could have had more 90s flavor...or I suppose I should say flava.

I am not so specific. I am pretty much down for any and everyone this side of Battlestar to hand Walker his ass in a fight. Maybe Battlestar too. I want it to be like that scene from Airplane, where the woman is panicking, and someone slaps her to try to get her to snap out of it, and then the next person hits her harder, and there's a whole line of people waiting to smack her. The same sort of sitch for Walker, except for beatdowns.

Do you mean to we the viewers or to Falcon/Bucky or to the MCU public at large? Because the answers probably vary greatly. I suspect that for a lot of fans, nobody but Steve's anointed successor would do as Cap. And even some of them would not be happy with either Cap Falcon or Cap Bucky. I think Sam would have been perfectly fine with Walker if he was worthy, and Bucky would have been wary regardless. I am guessing the public in general is happy enough to have Cap back that they won't care to look too deeply at who John is once they know that enough boxes have been checked.

We don't know how well Sam's superhero contract gigs pay. And presumably, Sam doesn't have the time or inclination to personally run the family business. But the answer is of course "artificial tension," since Sam even if we are to pretend that Sam does not have money and has no immediate prospects for getting sufficient extra money through his work, he could almost certainly get a private loan on the order of the (presumed) $200-500k range from friends or friends of friends like Pepper and Rhodey.

Darkseid was the Big Bad for the final season of Smallville, albeit he himself barely showed up. It's not inconceivable that Supergirl will do something similar -- have a bunch of Darkseid's minions like Granny Goodness and the Female Furies show up. The main thing that would make this seem unlikely is that the various versions of the Justice League movie raising the notion of Darkseid TPTB would want them to deal with him.

As far as we saw, Zemo stayed in his cell and Bucky never entered. So one of several scenarios could have taken place: 1. Zemo had himself procured the key card and hid it in the book. This doesn't really make sense because Bucky would not have known about it, and it's implied he knew about it by asking about it. 2. Bucky was responsible for Zemo getting the key card and gave it to Zemo during the visit. Possible, but it seems like a narrative cheat since it does not seem like from what we saw of the visit that he had an opportunity to slip the key card in the book or to slip the book to Zemo. 3. Bucky was responsible for Zemo getting the key card and set up getting the key card/book well in advance of his visit. I think this makes the most sense. Part of the breakout plan suggests that he did some intel in advance. Choosing which inmates to try to spur into the fight, for example, was probably not just done by chance. The research that fight means at least four guards would respond was something he figured out. I think we just have to accept that he'd worked human angles to a) get the key card duplicated b) arranged through other human failings to get the book and keycard to Zemo.

Selby was saying "kill them" when she got shot. So a couple of possible problems with it being Sharon. 1. If Sharon was killing to save Our Heroes and Zemo,, she would have done a shitty job of it, because Selby wasn't armed or a direct threat, and she didn't bother to snipe the people who actually did have weapons. 2. Sharon would have known that Bucky faced no threat from these guys. 3. Pretty immediately after the shooting of Selby someone put a reward for the people who shot her of 1k in bitcoin, which is $58 million. It seems improbable that someone would put out a reward that big that soon after the shooting for it to be anything but a setup to get Our Heroes and Zemo.

Bucky presumably slipped Zemo the key card. Zemo did not use the key card to get out of his own cell. It seems to me that it was during recreational time where people were able to be out and about, which is why the two people were playing chess. Zemo uses a key card to maneuver around in the prison, but I was under the impression that he was just using the one from the guard he beat up and stole the clothes from. Maybe the key card hat was in the book was a backup, or maybe it allowed access to something on the outside of the prison. Zemo had to figure out how/where to find Bucky after all.

Sharon, who stole the killer story about planting yourself like a tree to tell the whole world to eff off when you know you're in the right from Steve, should not be whining that the world hit back. (Especially if as things appear, that she was able to secure herself a lifestyle of luxury as an ex-pat.) But again, it seems bizarre that while on the run, Steve and co. would leave a person behind. Especially one Steve was romantically involved with. I hope Sharon didn't kill Selby. Seems like she's not the type to a) kill people in cold blood and b) put Our Heroes in danger. I believe at least hypothetically, in the real world, the president could attached whatever strings they want to a pardon. It's just that most of them make them unconditional, because why not? Also, given Bucky's numerous international crimes over the years and his violation of the Sokovia Accords and Civil War/fugitive shenanigans most recently, I would think that there would have to be other nations/bodies to pardon him for it to mean much.

I would say in particular for Zemo, but to a lesser extent Sharon, we never got much chance to see the "real" them. In Civil War, Zemo was mostly playing roles to achieve his goals. The only thing that was really him was when he attempted suicide and got stopped by the Panther. Sharon was role-playing as friendly neighbor for most of Winter Soldier, and in Civil War, we got to see her as niece-in-mourning and helper, but not really that much of a person in her own right. It's certainly possible that there's more to Zemo that meets the eye, but it does seem like it would be a stretch for him to be the Power Broker himself or to really have any connection to the PB's operation. Even if we put aside the implausibility of his running stuff while behind bars, there's the problem of it contradicting his motivation of wanting to avoid the spread of super-powered people for him to be in league with someone recreating the SSS.

It might be wishful thinking, but I'm actually of the mindset that Mary Lou is the most likely to win. She gets the most/best talking heads, she's attractive, and she has generally done well in challenges and in regular services. The show blurs together, of course, but I can't remember any times when she was put up or when she screwed up. Cody and Declan have been I think both put up a few times. Kori hasn't but she hasn't really been given a narrative arc and seems boring AF. Forgot that this season has apparently aired and that the winner is known. My comments were made out of pure speculation.

Maggie is a GOOD detective... 🙂

On the contrary, it makes way more sense that a super-rich person could use his resources to follow the Hydra bread crumbs and orchestrate his elaborate Civil War plan than a random military guy. He is like Bruce Wayne, but evil and with fewer gadgets. His logic in Civil War is akin to Batfleck's logic in Batman v. Superman, except he is convinced that there is a 100 percent chance because of Sokovia's destruction that the good guys will cause chaos as opposed to Batfleck speculating that something must be done if there's even a 1 percent chance of Bad Superman after the destruction of much of Metropolis.

Maggie is a detective so she should be better at figuring things out than the average bear. And IIRC had a number of first-hand encounters with Supergirl. I am spacing on how much Kelly might have seen Kara as Supergirl. Although seems like Kelly might have gotten a head's up from brother James.

I think just about everything here is supposed to be at face value. But now that you mention it, to buy her story, we have to believe that somehow no one gave Sharon a second thought amid all their being on the run and following the Snap. Seems wildly out of character for Steve at a minimum, not to mention Fury. Also that as the show pointed out, Cyborg Staring Machine got a pardon for like seventy years' of crimes, and she did not. Hmm...Setup for a twist, pointed statement on the unfairness of the system, bad writing or what? The comics version of Zemo was always a baron. It's plausible that despite being rich, Zemo worked as a covert ops soldier because he was a patriot, or because he had a sense of noblesse oblige, or because of a jones for power. It's of course not the same thing, but in America, there are rich people who join the military to pave the way for political careers or because of family tradition.

I could see, say, Sarah Michelle Gellar pulling the line off. But Storm is not Buffy, and in particular, Halle Berry Storm shouldn't have been treated as a quipster.

Just because most white people also wouldn't do something does not make an act not white privilege. As a for instance, the notion of knowingly calling the police on an innocent black person and making false claims about them is not something most white people would do. But when someone does do it, it is an example of them consciously wielding white privilege.

That is not the sense in which I mean the possible privilege existing. Most people would not think they were entitled to come to a person's work to lecture them about a personal beef, let alone entitled to embark on an intercontinental trip to continue to lecture them about that beef, let alone when there's a measure of national security issues about all of the above. That Sam could have squashed that at any point is irrelevant to that Bucky felt entitled to act the way he did. By way of example, if a white customer complains baselessly to a black manager, it doesn't matter that the black manager has more power than she does in the situation. The customer's complaints still could be informed and a manifestation of unearned entitlement, or more specifically, white privilege. The source of the entitlement may have absolutely nothing to do with either Bucky's or Sam's race. Bucky's personality may be such that he would have acted the same way if he wanted to get in, say, Pepper Potts' face or Cosplay Cap's or the general that approved of Cosplay Cap. And if Bucky were black, maybe he still would have been just as brash and entitled. But it is at least arguable that if the shoe had been on the other foot, Sam would have known damn well that he, as a black man, could not expect to barge onto an army base uninvited in the first place, let alone insert himself into Bucky's mission. That is where the white privilege would come in: being able able to not have to worry that you're not going to get denied a loan, harassed by cops, thrown off an army base, or suffer adverse consequences because of your skin color.

But you were saying it looks like the only regulars involved were likely Anissa and Grace. It seems like it would be weird if they don't have Jen in it since they were each other's first loves (and I don't remember how things were left between the two of them, since I skipped a bunch of episodes), but it also seems like it would be odd doing the "it's really Jen!" dance as well.

So Jen 2.0 will not be involved? Seems...odd.

I guess we are supposed to conclude that the Crows are more like Brinks -- a security company that operates nationwide. So they may have a large Gotham presence/contract, but they run operations anywhere.

There was the allusion to Loki turning Thor into a frog in the play "Odin" had to mark Loki's passing in Ragnarok. 🙂