Potanical Pardon

In the flashback, was that Ned and Benjen or Ned and Brandon? I assumed the brother was Benjen but then I got confused because it seemed like the younger/smaller one was Ned.

Are Nyssa and Evelyn/Starling joining Team Arrow? And Mr. Terrific? Felicity never really left, though Arsenal did, and I don't get exactly why his staying away made any sense. I sense something bad coming Diggle's way. Team's too big and his story arc has got to be over as soon as the Andy storyline is done. I also just realized the writers have it in them to have Nyssa move into Laurel's apartment, train and become roomies with Starling, have Huntress return and begin a Birds of Prey side team with Felicity's Overwatch.

She's on Another Period right now which is basically a show with every current comedian on it that makes fun of Downton Abbey and period piece entertainment. She's had comedic roles over the years too.

Is the crazy ex-girlfriend the big bad with Saved By the Bell: College Years Professor Laskey from the Veronica Mars college season? HITG moment.

Consider me "whatever" by her death. I didn't like the character nor the actress, though she started to warm to me somewhat. I had to look at articles online to verify she was off the show/the person in the grave. And I'm not convinced she's done, besides the E2 stuff and whatever flashbacks. I've been waiting for some episode involving her mom where she legit gets the real canary cry and the name, Dinah, gets passed onto her and/or becomes the name that she identifies with and goes by. I still feel like they're going to bring back Black Canary one day. Maybe in the series finale or something where she just suddenly shows up to help. I'm not sure how, but If she ever does return, I hope it goes something like this: I know the actress can maaaybe pull it off. I admit (read:confess) that I watched her on Melrose Place.

If we're picking a new leader, I'd vote for the real Rip Hunter. The show's Rip Hunter acts 1000000x more like Waverider. Rip Hunter is the cooler name and I get the Dr. Who thing they're going for, but seriously, the guy on this show should be named Waverider, not just a nod to the ship's name. Even Jonas and his mom...that whole story works better with Waverider's original identity, Matthew Ryder, and his wife Liri Lee. Rip Hunter should be a dude who's entire mission and goal is to preserve the timeline, even time-hop and muck around with time in order to fix time anomolies...which seems like the Time Masters MO. He's supposed to have a teacher/master vibe to him, hard-ass, but with quiet alone moments that show you he has a heart. And he would most definitely have not had a problem with killing teen Per Degaton. I love the character on the show who is Rip. I think it's important for such a character to exist on the show. He just shouldn't be in charge nor have that name. He, like Waverider, has this exact character arc of learning why it's such a bad and terrible idea to screw around with time like he has been based on emotion even when you think you're going to do it to be a hero, save lives, society, with acceptable alterations to a timeline. It's supposed to lead to him being the definitive Time Master...the one all the bad guys and future people on this show talk about being so awesome at what he does.

I felt like an idiot too. Didn't see it coming at all, but once the helmet came off I was like "Geez. How did I not...?" ESPECIALLY because Chronos looks and acts nothing like comics!Chronos but does look everything aesthetically comics!Heatwave. Now, all that has to happen to complete reformed Heatwave is for him to wear the goggles from before but keep the "Chronos" outfit.

I'm betting on it being Glenn, purely because of Rick and Maggie choosing to kill the Saviors for the Hilltop people. I feel like Rick and Maggie would be the most serviced by Glenn being the choice for the writers to mine from. Every other option leads to like maybe a one episode dealing with it type of episode. The only other option that leads to multiple episode impact is Abraham...except, I don't think anyone will care even if that were to happen. So Sasha, Rosita and Eugene's reactions...BFD, right?

Funniest episode of TWD, maybe? I am totally using the picking up a turd by the clean end line. I had never tried Orange Crush or any orange drank ever in my life until that episode where Darryl and Rick went to go find it for Denise. It got me so motivated that I even went for the 24-pack. Poor Denise didn't even get to enjoy her Orange Crush. It's actually pretty good! Also tried Fanta a few days ago when I saw it somewhere...not as good. Anyways.

That falcon. And the ring. The perfect metaphor for this show.

DJ's a coward and horrible stringing both guys along and both guys are saps for allowing themselves to be strung along. And in the end she essentially reset everything for a new round of stringing these dudes along again. "I choose me!" Hahahahaha! Okay, Kelly Taylor. I'm with Lola. That entire family is creepo creepy. And Stephanie...she is the farthest thing from hip and cool. She has terrible taste in everything including music and it's completely unbelievable, though I'm okay with that for this self-aware best worst television that is so bad that it's awesome...but it's really hard to accept her background/aspect more than others. No DJ would ever take her seriously. It's just...unrealistic. She's a play/stop DJ which I do understand is now en vogue with a surplus of talentless hacks thanks to the Paris Hilton celebudj fad where it's more important to bop your head than wear headphones or beat match. Anywho, I digress. While her type of DJ does exist in the world today, it's pretty unanimously frowned upon except by club owners, promoters, and the starfuckers...but by actual music people, totally nope. Stephanie is lame. She is the exact person and type that goes to these things, gets caught up in the scene, becomes a part of not the scene though thinks it is because of the aesthetics of the scene, and is discredited and made fun of by the actual scene. Anyways, I like that she's getting past that and if this aunt aspect is to parallel Uncle Jesse, then it makes sense with his Elvis fixation and the Rippers. They're both kinda pretty lame musically and total products of suburban kids that grew up and think they earned street cred and worldliness. So it works. I guess my problem is with how THAT world reacts and treats them. The show doesn't adequately convey or portray that Stephanie and Jesse are deluded because the faceless people around them cheering them on aren't credible either, though the implication is there that they represent some authenticity, e.g., Macy Gray, Coachella, her British buddy. And there's also the attention to details like DJs stopping music immediately and if they actually do resume it starts up again as if from the exact same spot paused and most importantly, it's funny how she's always able to start spinning at the drop of the hat anywhere and everywhere without us ever seeing her cart around equipment, turntables, laptops and ESPECIALLY NO RECORDS, haha. We never even see her with the gear around the house, no practicing, nor any indication that she is a record store junkie/collector.

Yay, trolling the Smiths, exit song.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Bryan Cranston - first entertaining thing of the night.

Weirdo cameraman and choice whoever's directing this production.

I was pulling for "Shoot! The Glahhhs!"

Olivia Munn was fantastic in Newsroom, okay on the Daily Show, and likeable in a clumsy dorky/trying hard to gain credibility despite everyone knowing she was hired for her looks on Attack of the Show. There's an awesome video of her on Youtube doing a news report about MC Hammer, pronouncing his name as "McHammer", bless her heart, while her cohost loses it and she genuinely didn't understand why/know who MC Hammer is.

I don't see the problem with Mad Max winning most of these if you actually look at each category individually, that was the only movie the entire year that actually improved/innovated and changed how those particular departments work and operate as opposed to doing the best that was possible given what was universally acknowledged as possible within those departments.

The only reason I'm watching any of this is to prep for this week's bar trivia.

I'll try my best... The Hawks do not have to reincarnate through their descendants, though it has happened kindof-sortof in the comics. They can reincarnate through different races, bloodlines. They start out just like everyone else...as a baby, as someone's kid. It's not the original Khufu and Chayera DNA, it's the DNA from whomever that baby's actual parents are. It's the soul/memories that graft onto that person at conception. In the comics, they both do not have to die before the reincarnation cycle restarts. It begins individually, though not necessarily immediately after death, i.e., a Hawk dies, and some baby that happens to be born that same day is the new Khufu/Chayera - that isn't what happens. Oddly, the reincarnation could coexist in time, predating the death of himself/herself. In recent comics, though not current continuity, Carter Hall did not die, though he was thought to have, while his wife, Shiera Sanders Hall, did during the same event. Shiera reincarnated in her own grand-niece, Kendra Sanders (Saunders...it keeps changing), upon her suicide attempt. The interpretation of this is shaky; some believe Shiera's soul took over Kendra's body when Kendra's soul left at suicide. There's evidence that whoever Kendra is, has both Shiera and her own memories; so the argument could be made either way - that it's Kendra's soul with Shiera's memories or it's Shiera's soul with Kendra's memories. I believe and lean towards the it's always been the original Chayera soul as that goes with the reincarnation schtick, and each instance of her goes through this confused state of not knowing who her true identity is and then never gets resolved (in other words, one writer says one thing, a later writer changes it, and subsequent writers go back and forth or screw it up further by not doing their research). Anywho...later on the same Carter Hall essentially tries to shack up with Kendra-Shiera, who is his grand-niece (sidenote: Carter and Shiera Hall have not really aged much since WWII, because short-version: magic, so they'd be closer biologically in age to the twenty-something grandniece, Kendra, as all of this is going on). But this story basically explains my conclusions in the first paragraph. Also, I'm pretty sure that whole Arrow/Flash exercise/scene of her jumping off that building was a shoutout to Kendra's suicide attempt resulting in her becoming Hawkgirl/Shiera's soul entering/merging/activating/whatever in her. Interestingly, Carter and Shiera DID have a child, Hector Hall, who somehow inherited the reincarnation thing with a twist. This is going to get super confusing right here. He died as the hero, Silver Scarab, in the present time. Another hero named Dawn Granger (Dove) is pregnant by her boyfriend, Hank Hall (who may or may not be related by last name to the Hawkman/Hawkwoman Halls) and who goes by the hero name, Hawk...LOL, told ya. Anyways, it turns out that baby is special and no one knows why. The baby is born and magically aged to adulthood instantly with white/grey hair and a goatee and turns out to be...Hector Hall, complete with memories, because he's fated to become the latest Dr. Fate. And Dr. Fate is chosen/powered by the helmet and amulet of Nabu, who happened to be the priest/sorcerer/whatever buddy friend of original recipe Khufu and Chayera during ancient Egypt. And Hector totally interacts with dad (Carter), Kendra (who may or may not be his mom), and his bio-mom, but not bio-dad because Hank-Hawk at this point in the continuity went psycho evil and is essentially an entirely different person with time-travel powers and anger issues named Extant. Trust me, the Hawkfamily gets even crazier than the above. There's Wonder Woman lore, Green Lantern lore, Sandman lore, Teen Titans lore, and Jonah Hex lore that weaves in and out of their history. I didn't even get into the whole Hawkpeople planet and Hawkman/Hawkwoman that come from there whose names just had to be Katar Hol and Shayera Thal Hol. As for the same actors being used for ancient Egypt Khufu, Chayera and Hath-Set/Vandal Savage, I think the show did it just to simplify understanding for the audience as a visual thing. Technically, I wish they had not merged Hath-Set and Vandal Savage from the comics. Vandal Savage is supposed to be much older than that...he's biblical Cain or he's the caveman that discovered fire. I like to think both are fictionally the same dude. The current continuity in comics messed with that in a similar way merging two Hawk villains into one, Hath-Set and Shadow Thief (or maybe that was the JL Animated).

I really don't want Steve to become the Aunt Becky of this show. And he's super predatory sad.

I'll admit that the "sister-wife" line cracked me up. I can't decide if the little brother is supposed to be a mini-Danny Tanner or Stephanie analogue...kind of both.

We never see Hunter Zolomon standing up. I think E1 HZ is paralyzed. E2 HZ is Zoom. MITIM is Wally even though we saw the back neck hair. This way, we get the main characters reactions to a speedster Wally that isn't their Wally, and Barry gets some added motivation to hang out with Wally in case he ever manifests his speed powers which probably will involve his science fair experiment or whatever it is. I just hope he doesn't choose the alias, Turbine, that it seemed like they were pushing for this episode. As to why HZ and Jay look the same...I think Teddy Sears is the look of HZ and not E2 Jay. We haven't met/seen real E2 Jay. Zoom is some combo of the concepts of Rival and Black Flash/Black Racer aka Death. Maybe the E2 paricle accellerator created Zoom/BF/BR from splitting E2 Jay, and one of his abilities is to change his face to those he has absorbed/absorbed the speed from. As for "dead" Jay...he's not a clone but an after-image of Zoom that also uses the HZ face. This is a speedster ability that few speedsters have. In future seasons we'll probably get the real E1 HZ as Zoom with Eobard Thawne's Prof. Zoom to go against Barry and Wally.

I know Valentina Vostok is a character from the comics involved with Checkmate, which they could just make A.R.G.U.S. for TV, but did anyone else get the feeling that they're going to make her the Firehawk character? Actually, Connor is 1/4 African heritage, 1/4 Korean.

I just went over to look at it. I hadn't watched that one. And within the first few moments seeing the panel, think I know who's the culprit. He's notoriously an insecure chatch, though has softened over the years and turned it into a self-deprecating schtick. Still, yeah...he would bring the quality and tone down instantly as he does on the Arrow, Agents of SHIELD, Walking Dead recaps. David Griffin's okay. He does the Star Wars recap show too. I have noticed the main guy who wasn't in this one, John Campea, having spurts of pervy misogyny and awkward Asian stereotyping that always makes me wonder a bit about the relationship with his Asian wife. If only Screen Junkies would expand making recap shows.

We might be talking about different things - different usage of online recap/aftershows. Or maybe not and see those shows as something different. The shows I'm referring to aren't to clear up or hype anything - at least I'm not watching them for that, and I hadn't gotten the impression that was their intent. I just like watching them in a fandom way, not all of them, just the ones with the people I like. And discuss the flaws just as much as aspects that were fun. The Supergirl one is horrible. I just think of it in a water-cooler sense, like these forums.