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Potanical Pardon

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  1. He's got my vote for endgame Big Bad. I can't recall the dialogue, but his having Tywin's blessing to go off to The Vale to bring Lyssa back into the fold of the realm implied to me that he has some sort of ability to convince Lyssa that no one else has. Remember, after Jon Aryn's death she wanted nothing to do with the realm. She was only to eager to let Tyrion die. And she didn't allow Cat any of her army to aid the Starks. We know that Littlefinger grew up with both Cat and Lyssa. So he must have some sort of IN with Lyssa if everyone seems to be sure he can succeed at getting her to agree to whatever Littlefinger wants.
  2. Joffrey was immediately the king once Robert died. I don't think age has anything to do with it. Cersei was the Queen Regent only because her son hadn't married yet and they were waiting for a suitable queen, the prime requirement being able to bear children. I'm thinking that not only does Tommen get to immediately be king, but that Lady O completely thought this through and knows this and intends for Margaery to wed Tommen as soon as possible. Tywin, who's really making the decisions has no reason not to agree with this. All of his alliances and arrangements would remain the same. As for consummation of the marriage, yeah, I do agree that this may be brought up but I don't think it will mean much "for the good of the realm/family/whatever". It will probably just mean that Margaery is not the queen/without power right now, but will facilitate getting she and Tommen hitched. I'm sure Lady O will bring up already having paid for half the wedding festivities as added incentive that Tywin owes her. The only enemies Tywin/Lannisters will have left in terms of he not paying any attention to them are Daeny and Littlefinger (who I personally think is the character who gets to take down the Lannisters - all that dialogue over time about the banks and how Littlefinger took out all those loans for the realm.) He left Tywin essentially with the bill while he's off to the Vale to move onto the next part of his plan of world domination. Westeros is in debt (since even Robert's reign as commented by Ned). Littlefinger has been playing the long game the entire time gradually bankrupting the realm. Combined with winter coming, I believe his plan is for the people of Westeros to revolt with little food growing to go anywhere or being burned stupidly, completely destabilizing the economy with the debts he created meanwhile having pocketed a lot of the money which he can continuously pay his own army (Lyssa's...Varys even comments that its the one thing left that he needs to rule) while the other armies of Westeros abandon their posts and allegiances because they're simply not getting compensated anymore. This dissent has already begun as we see with the Brotherhood Without Banners and that poop being thrown at Joffrey. Also it adds a bit of poetic justice for Littlefinger to use the one thing the Lannisters value the most as their undoing. Either it's him or some surprise Reyne that survived and bred. I forget which character, but someone even mentioned once how all these tournaments, weddings, etc. need to be so lavish and entertaining because it serves to distract the masses from their minds wandering towards their own injustices. Tywin isn't just going to let his plans with the Tyrells vanish. He needs them and the Martells for their money and southern agriculture. So he has to be or get on the same page as Lady O with Cersei+Loras, Tommen + Margaery, Myrcella + whoever/Martell seat on the council. Speaking of other enemies. I guess Tywin isn't worried at all about the Greyjoys and just a little bit with Stannis. I don't even get who Balon is fighting. As far as I can tell everyone else has been busy fighting everyone but the Greyjoys. He must be just sailing his boats in circles killing fish.
  3. True, but I think she would have planned it well enough to cast suspicion on someone in particular so as not to be one herself nor Margaery. She could not have forseen the Tyrion cup-bearer nonsense but it is already pretty well established that Joffrey and Tyrion hate each other, the most public of times being Tyrion's wedding and now the distasteful dwarf reenactment of the war. Even without him conveniently picking up the glass, he would have already been suspect #1. The Sansa/Dontas stuff makes me think she planned it so the two together, or at least one of them, would most likely end up the primary suspect, Sansa also being a close second suspect with high motive. I need to rewatch last week's episode for the Sansa-Dontas scene and see if that necklace means anything or if it was just thrown in there so when Dontas shows up at the wedding, we're not all "Whodafuq?"
  4. I'm with you completely. Just rewatched. That line clinched it for me that it was Lady Olenna's plan. Not sure how yet, but between that and all her and Margaery's pow-wows with Sansa, we know that they know two things: how much of a huge monster Joffrey is and that Sansa is so easy and gullible to suit their plans. Ser Dontas is conveniently there to shoo Sansa away at just the right moment, so he must be part of her plan too - it'll look pretty fishy for Sansa to be missing immediately to all those witnesses. I'm not sure if her plan involves having Sansa and Tyrion as the scapegoats specifically or that it's just the simplest and most convenient for her. Hmmm. What does she have to gain by targeting Tyrion? She was just talking to Tywin about the banks. Tyrion's the Master of Coin. Who would be next to take over from him? I don't know what her plan could be with that if there is one. I'm pretty sure the Joffrey part of the plan is simply not having her favorite person stuck with such a monster while still keeping all the benefits and deals in place by Margaery's position - so "consolation" marriage to Tommen...like how Ned had to marry Cat when his older brother died. Plus there were the 5+ shots by the cameramen of Tommen. You could see the wheels turning in Tywin's head the entire scene even before the death - he's completely in the zone playing out everything in his head. He'll totally agree with keeping and maintaining all existing deals/marriages/whatever - so definitely Margaery + Tommen marriage. That leaves Tywin's feelings towards Sansa and Tyrion. He BADLY needs the Lannister name to go on and it's in his best interest for Tyrion and Sansa to get out of this so he can have some Lannister grandkids - also giving him Winterfell and the North (as far as he knows). If he's in on the whole plan, then Ser Dontas is the out as a scapegoat. Even if he's not and only finds out afterwards, he'd still go along with Ser Dontas taking the fall despite his grandson just dying. Everyone wins with Tommen over Joffrey, even Cersei, though this will probably make her an even drunker, crazy and dangerous mess. I don't think it's the pie any more since Joffrey is fine after taking a bunch of bites into it. He also sipped from the goblet before having some pie and was fine. He clearly hands the goblet to Margaery after reluctantly taking it from not-kneeling Tyrion who sets it down between she and Lady Olenna. That glass is sitting there for all the time Joffrey is scarfing away on pie and giving Tyrion shit about being his cup bearer and he and Sansa leaving. Margaery even points at it for Tyrion to pick up while Lady Olenna looks right at the glass - but that's nothing anyways, since pretty much everyone at the reception would be staring at it anyways. Still, if it's the pie, there's a delay in the poison working, and if it's the goblet, only Lady O and Margaery are close enough to add something to the glass.
  5. Well...dude went out at his most ultimate self. I need to rewatch and think - this changes so many characters' directions. Marriages, alliances. Easily one of the best episodes as far as dialogue. Amazing dialogue. Geeeeeeez. I can't think of many long drawn out awkward scenes on television with so much tension. Good stuff.
  6. Why would Comic-Con rule Conan out? His contract with TBS also expires in 2015. He renewed it for that length right after Letterman renewed his existing contract. In any case, Colbert or Conan...I'll be happy.
  7. ComicBookGirl19 is doing a weekly recap/review...I don't know exactly...I guess just commentary, but it's pretty good (as are her other GoT-related videos, such as the history of House ____ vids).
  8. Man, that editing with the previously-shot footage. So bad.
  9. I get the feeling that the Hipsterminites are responsible for her disappearance and for some reason see her as a fit for whatever criteria is required to be one of them. Superficially, she looks like she could be one of them. In a different way, this could be the Andrea arc all over again with Beth torn between the two sides, hopefully minus the poor decision-making.
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