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No. Jax and Brittany had a birthday party for another friend of their’s, and Scheana, Brock, and Lala (and of course Kristin) were in attendance.

I am totally in on this show. I love how all of these people we don’t know are acting all boujee like they’re on the Real Housewives—of an ultra wealthy place. But you’re friends with Jax, Brittany, and Kristin, so we know you can’t be that fancy! Illustrating how crass the original-recipe cast is, I’m really surprised Jax didn’t start saying how Brock told him to pull down that guy’s shorts. Meanwhile while Jax was apologizing to the wife, Scheana was there smiling and snickering because she knows it was all her husband’s idea.

Fair points. I do have a different take on Brennan’s “just look at it like dating” advice. I think the point is Michael is freaking himself out over the prospect of deciding on forever after knowing someone a few weeks. Reframing it as would you want to continue dating her takes that pressure off that Michael could very easily say yes. They can continue their relationship one day at a time after decision day. I think that’s what Michael has been trying to do with Chloe with delaying moving in. He’s afraid to give up his apartment and merge lives with someone he really likes but barely knows. But if they continue to be in a relationship, 6 months down the line is enough time to move in with a girlfriend wife. From Chloe’s perspective, she’s ready to continue the marriage. Michael really cares about her and enjoys their relationship but it sounds like filming is exhausting for him. He uses the word “draining” because I’m sure it’s a lot to work all day and come home and have serious conversations for hours in front of the cameras. He wants to see what normal life with Chloe will be like without that added pressure before breaking his lease. Yes, these people signed up for Married at First Sight, not Dating at First Sight. But I’m sure once you’re actually in it, it has to hit you that you barely know this person. So I do think framing it as do you want to continue building a relationship with this person and see how it goes is easier for many people to say yes to than deciding on till death do we part right then and there. ETA: Not only is it the pressure of saying yes to Chloe after a few weeks. It’s also signing on to her hypothetical 5 kiddos and 7,240 wounded animals.

Okay, guys, Mea culpa. Emily does love one-night stands!

Did Chloe just say that Dr Pia was making a big deal out of nothing and it’s only “little things” they don’t agree on?! Are 5 foster kiddos and 7,240 disabled animals little things?! Maybe they are 7,240 Pygmy goats and miniature horses and teacup pigs and other technically “little” things?

Scheana allegedly didn’t have sex with John Mayer, but participated in an orgy adjacent to John Mayer? But Brock was there?! Brock has only been in Scheana’s life for a few years. Or maybe that was a different orgy? Allegedly. ETA: Apparently before VPR, Scheana was in a throuple with John Mayer and some girl from The Hills?!? Soooo… It was a different orgy Brock participated in?

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Gang, we’re just going to keep going in circles here on the lying and vaping and lying about vaping and the optics of lying about vaping forever because, frankly, there is no clearcut hero on this show. They’re all pretty terrible. (I will make an exception for Michael because he seems like a kind guy.) What are the hashtags we’re supposed to use to support constructive dialogue?

She got the rose and Maria was sent home. This studio audience went wild for Maria. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has rabid fans who attack others. Maria even acknowledged online hate toward Sydney and Leah, apparently in “defending Maria’s honor.” The racism though?!? Damn.

Damn. What is wrong with people?!

Whatever producer told Kelsey to write “we need to talk” so she can get an extra few minutes to see him probably got a bonus. She couldn’t be that dense about how he would take that, right? Conversely, genius move for a producer to come up with.

Oh, Jesus, Kelsey! Why not just write that you’re thinking about him and can’t wait to see him again. This poor man looked absolutely terrified and heartbroken.

Completely unforgivable. I would have walked her out right then and there.

I think they’re setting up Maria, planting all of those Maria fan signs and the cheering. Give me someone bland and pretty like Lexi or Daisy, and let the contestants shine (or implode). I can’t handle any more Maria.

To be fair, Maria is shutting down Jess talking right now—multiple times. But, wow, everyone is strongly either pro-Maria or anti-Maria. I can’t even recall a season where there was a dynamic like this. There might be one villain who happens to have a couple of cronies, with accusations thrown around. But I can’t recall ever seeing something like this in which the entire cast is heated and split fairly evenly. These people are activated.

Leah saying she feels gaslit while being the gaslighter insisting Maria said FU while it was the cake thrower who said it. And now she’s crying backstage—and they’re hugging?! Now I feel gaslit!

The women tell some things.

As someone who was up on all of the off-show, online controversy with the girlfriends/fiancee/Megan Fox, etc., it was interesting to watch with my husband who had no idea of what they were talking about and spent the majority of the reunion utterly confused. I had to explain to him that all of this was a really big deal online and that viewers would be glad that the “controversies” were addressed. That being said, they spent way too much time dragging Sarah Anne and Jeremy—especially since they then cut to Bliss and whatshisname at their baby shower, even though he also switched partners halfway through the “process.” (Granted, I get that his original fiancé was bitchiness personified and wanted nothing to do with him.) But it’s certainly not unprecedented for someone to realize they made a mistake. Some other woman switched out her man last season? The season before? I can’t keep track of this show. My point is, it’s happened before without needing to spend 25 minutes straight plus more comments throughout the show completely dragging them. The fact that they’re living together a year later shows that Sarah Anne was the right choice for him. Now, maybe if Laura was a nicer person I could jump on the outrage bandwagon on her behalf, but she was a mean girl who not only treated Jeremy rudely, but that whole bean dip debacle that is “sexual assault lite”! Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not team Jeremy here—but I’m also not team Laura, and they went so far with the anti-Jeremy/Sarah Anne here that it pushed me to their side that they didn’t deserve all that. On a more bittersweet note, I’m glad to see that Clay has really been working on himself. You could still see a lot of love between him and AD. I hope when he’s really ready, if she hasn’t yet found someone else, he can win her back. Can you imagine how lucky their kids would be having both of their mothers as grandmothers? I want to spend the holidays with Mama Clay and Mama AD.

I think Sutton just had a panic attack over the thought of Kathy and Kyle ganging up on her. Every symptom she had = panic attack. I’ve been sitting in a hospital room with my kid all week, so by the Annemarie school of medicine, I’m qualified to make this diagnosis.

Chloe just said on the after party she wants 7,247 animals—correcting Keisha saying 700 alpacas. I hope this is a joke—or maybe she somehow recalls the exact number of animals at the farm they visited. But if she’s really going through life saying she precisely needs 5 foster kids and 7,247 animals, I need to get to the root of this number. So odd. wow. The second half of the after party with Cam and Becca was really juicy! I have to say, out of all of these people, I believe Cameron. He seems to be the only one who doesn’t care about “optics.” He cares so little about how he comes off on TV that he completely stopped filming. I mean, granted, he had more important things to worry about. But his words and delivery are specific. He’s not just throwing around the three buzzwords —even though I think he invented “optics” before Clare had the girls commandeer it. And Clare did seem to have great glee in getting everyone all worked up.

What has happened to Chloe that she wants to love and care for all the wounded animals and children?!? Micheal very reasonably says, I’m on board with your dream as long as it’s two children and a handful of animals, as I don’t feel like I can give my best to care for more than that. And she looks at him like he just let her non-existent children and animals die in the streets. Chloe then doubles down that her five-at-a-time foster children will each need their own bedroom. Who is paying for this 6-bedroom farmhouse?!?! Doesn’t she have some type of a non-profit job? Michael is a project manager. She goes on and on about how healthy their relationship is, but she doesn’t seem willing to compromise at all on this very extreme dream of hers. Meanwhile Michael seems very willing to say I never thought about fostering or having an animal sanctuary but I will do a manageable version of that dream for you. Why isn’t that enough? Then she’s shocked that he “doesn’t have enough information” to say yes tomorrow. There’s definitely something missing there that Chloe is not seeing the disconnect that she’s not going to get 500-1000 wounded animals, five foster children (who will each have their own challenges that will take a lot of care and attention), and Michael. At this rate, it sounds like she wants to start one of those ranches for wayward children. Maybe she should start by going to work for one.

The women from The Golden Bachelor were very popular. I think the ratings for Golden Bachelor were higher than regular Bachelor/ette. So the show is trying to cash in on the popularity of these ladies by featuring them—and maybe some of that older demographic might tune in to see them. The problem is, the more we see them, such as here and featured prominently in Gerry and Theresa’s wedding special, the novelty of them is kind of wearing off. Plus, I think what made them seem fun and engaging was the Golden Girls aspect of them all genuinely having a good time together in the house. When they’re just 1:1, the pizzazz is gone. Leslie has always been a sad sack. Sandra was too much with the “men like sex” talk, as if this was novel and sage advice. And the other one I forgot her name, is just too me-me-me the way she officiated G&T’s wedding and half of what she said was all about herself.

Alli doesn’t like Jo because she moved in with Schwartz like a minute after he and Katie got divorced. Um…kind of like you and James 6 weeks after he and Raquel ended their engagement. But, holy smokes, what is wrong with Jo?’?! All of these faces and gestures and loud-ass comments, she seems like she’d fit in with that group of redneck/blue-collar comics that were big in the 90s. Total Larry the Cable Guy vibes, with a little Jim Carey/Mike myers mugging thrown in. MVP once again to Anne, the poor assistant in the Sandoval-Maddix household who, upon hearing that Sandvoval was going to emote piped up, in private, right? How many rants on both sides has this woman had to endure? Set those boundaries, Anne!

Wow. That was some really bad frankenbiting of Joey’s words on the jungle couch with Daisy. Didn’t show him speaking at all and every word was plucked from different conversations and tone and cadence didn’t match at all. Joey is giving Daisy his sob story at this dinner. Everything is all topsy-turvey. Oh, no, now Daisy is crying worrying about not getting chosen. We’re 3-for-3…actually, 4, as Joey also has this fear. Wait, Joey is also telling Daisy that he’s been falling in love with her for a while?! Oh, no. His feelings don’t seem as genuine here. He’s very formal addressing feelings with Daisy and Rachel. He was gushing with Kelsey! Oh, he’s a bit more gushy in the morning with Daisy. At any rate, good-bye, Rachel! Kelsey is pulling a Maria?! I’m insecure so it’s now or never so you don’t hurt me more. This did not work out for Maria. However, Joey actually does love Kelsey, so now he”s spiraling worrying about Kelsey leaving him, so it might work out better for her.