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I get what you're saying, but I respectfully disagree. The finale is about everyone who is still on the show at that point. This was as much Daisy's journey as Kelsey's still. Joey could just as easily pulled Daisy to him and said "No, Daisy, you're wrong. It's you! You're the one I want to spend my life with". And the audience would have been crying and clapping for Joey and Daisy. Daisy should, and did, what was best for Daisy. Just as Kelsey and Joey did what was best for them. If fans thought it was too much about Daisy, that is the fault of production and editing, not on Daisy. They could have told Daisy that she couldn't go to Kelsey's room. Or at least not filmed/aired that part. They could have said they have to take separate limos, etc. Could have cut out showing Daisy walking away by herself...I'm sure they have plenty of extra footage of Kelsey and Joey they could have used, but this is the story they wanted to tell.

I agree with the first part of your post but not this part. A woman can decide that a man in his 30's who NEVER had a romantic relationship but ONLY one night stands, isn't the right partner for her and a man can do so as well. There were other issues Brennan had with Emily but if this was the only one, that's okay too. It doesn't mean that he thinks Emily is "less than" because of this, just not the one for him. You are assuming that about him. Also they both decided off camera not to talk about certain things, so maybe he did talk to her about it. And maybe there are other things he hasn't revealed that he is protecting her about. It may not have told him everything he needed to know about her character, but it may have been enough to know she's not a good match for him. To me, Brennan and Clare come across as cold. But I really don't think either one are bad people. Not a good partner for some, but probably perfect for someone else.

Yet on decision day she still said yes, she wants to stay married to this man, the liar. Becca didn't have a problem with it at that time. Any sane person would have said Hell No. Goodbye. Unless Becca is the liar. Hmmm

That's the problem with Becca and I can't trust her. She knew (according to her, still haven't heard Austin's side of the story, so I'll wait for that myself) that Austin vaped a lot and lied about it and other things, yet she still wanted him. So she's saying that she wants to spend the rest of her life with a guy who vapes a lot and lies. All of that happened before she said yes to continue on. She didn't have a problem with it. Now that she's finally opened her eyes and sees what we all have plainly seen, that Austin doesn't want her, she has a problem with it and wants to expose anything that she thinks will hurt him.

Whoa, taking pot shots at his manhood and mom in this day and age, really? When and for what did he blame on Becca? I heard him apologize and take responsibility for lying about the producer being part of their group when they went out. I don't think he heard about the vaping story yet, so he hasn't addressed that. So far we just have her interpretation of that situation. I do wonder if Becca truly doesn't care about the vaping why was it brought up. If someone lied about something I didn't care about it would make me laugh. Like, it's so silly you felt the need to lie about that. It wouldn't make me angry. I would only be angry if it was something I cared about. I also don't understand the need for good guy/bad guy. They are all just incompatible. The women seem to want to make the men out to be at fault for something. They seem angry and miserable. For me it would just be an interesting experiment that showed we were incompatible and be excited and looking forward to what's next in life. Best of luck to everyone. I am a bit curious just what did Becca find intriguing about Austin. Why did she want to continue? Also, wondering, do they get paid to be on the show or is it just about getting to be on TV? Thanks to anyone who knows.

Gina and only Gina is at fault if her CHILDREN are hurt. Gina is the one who got the DUI. Gina is the one who put the family in the public eye by being on the show. Funny, Gina has no problem airing all the wrong deeds her children's father has done, yet she doesn't seem to care how that will hurt her CHILDREN! As long as it gives her a storyline. Yet, Shannon needs to stop talking about Gina. We get it, she helped her a bit. But she's also hurt her a bit. Move on.

Delores wasn't shady at all. She straight up shot that shit down. She put Joe and Frank in their place and let everyone know she wasn't going to let them lie about her son in their vendetta against Louie. Delores was being a good parent by unequivocally backing Frankie against Frank and Joe.

Joe Gorga's first reaction is always physical assault. He is so violent. Hope he isn't on the show anymore.

Melissa starts lying saying they did invite Teresa but Joe talks over her to say they didn't invite Teresa because she was single! Wonder if they would exclude Melissa's sister for the same idiotic reason.

I loved Melissa screeching to Teresa how poorly her daughters talked to her and treated her at that housewarming party and Bravo showing how nice and polite they actually were to her. Not mean at all. Andy quickly backtracked how Melissa & Joe got on the show. HaHA.. seems like someone was in his ear yelling for him to retract, retract, use lawyer speak! As he suddenly changed it to "I have no recollection of that".

I picture the newbie's at lunch before the season starting. Who gets to reveal the Melissa cheating story. Fessler: I can't, I came on as a "friend" of Margaret's. Rachel: I can't, I came on as a "friend" of Melissa's Danielle: Yeah, okay, I got this one. Yes, Melissa, you do look like the type to cheat and make out in the backseat of a car. Because all "types" of people cheat and make out in cars. You are not above doing so.

Melissa already knows. She's the one who did the cheating! Plus they all knew Margaret was gossiping about Melissa behind her back before they started filming, so Melissa knows it's being talked about long before Danielle tells her. It will be interesting to see if Melissa acts like this is news to her. We'll see how fake it all looks.

Was his squeaky toy a rat?🤣

Interesting. Melissa knew Margaret was circulating this long before the Ireland trip. The real reason Joe didn't go to the housewarming party and Melissa was in the bathroom crying probably because this cheating gossip was being talked about. Production for sure orchestrated Danielle going to Jen's room in Ireland to get the scoop. Everyone already knew this info weeks or months? before this scene took place. Fake is right! The Gorga's whole storyline this season is fake. Joe complaining about Melissa not being asked to be in the wedding (she was), his mother in law not being invited (she was) just BS to deflect from the real reason they weren't going to the wedding. They knew before the filming even started. I will be watching this differently to see how Melissa and the others react to this news now knowing she has known about this for quite awhile.

So Melissa didn't own up to Joe that Teresa did ask her to be in the wedding? I guess he needs to keep using that in order to have any kind of story line this season. Maybe Teresa could have invited Melissa's mother but she shouldn't invite her sisters. They all talk badly about Teresa and have no place being there. I think Jen & Bill are happy but they know they have to make it seem like there is trouble brewing for them to stay on the show and have something for the viewers to talk about.

Melissa, when you keep harping on about someone calling you insecure, you just proved them right!

I like the new ME as well but I thought his conversation about Allie was juvenile. Too middle school for their ages and positions. I like Allie but she comes across too immature in her romantic relationships. Her professional relationships with everyone works well. I find Josh and Serena to be a more realistic relationship.

You can want to gain followers and be looking for the love of your life at the same time. The two are not mutally exclusive. The show casts "content creators" and "content managers" but demonize them for talking about their careers. They have a lot of down time, so of course they will discuss things like that. This is a competition and only one "winner" so there are perks for the "losers". If she was one that Zach felt a connection with he wouldn't have cared. I think it's wrong to use this as a reason to get rid of her. He really doesn't need a reason.

And a near sobbing Zach will be in awe of you, tell you how badly he feels that you had to endure such a hardship in life. Zach will tell you how strong you are and that you deserve blah, blah, blah. 😆

I thought this season was awful. The focus was more on Padma than Leela. The only reason for the twins seems to be a long drawn out PSA for PPD.

The Governor might be the real hero here, Shutting down a hospital with so many unethical medical personnel. Nurses and Doctors taking care of co-workers babies while on the clock.. Sorry patients, the babies need us. No telling what diseases the young babies might be exposed to as well. I do hope that Padma just left, and doesn't come back. I don't want her to have been injured or killed off.

When you are out in the woods alone with someone you think is sketchy, don't keep questioning them and letting them know you are on to them! Just go along with whatever they say until you are in a safe place to tell someone you trust!! Just a PSA lol.

So Brittany has too much respect for her guy on the beach to date Tyler before she has a conversation, but hey, let's make out all night! I'm sure the show won't air it. I know it's all fake but all the guys at the resort were more attractive than any of the guys on the beach. They must have had the ones at the resort take a break and act uninterested for five minutes to film and juxtapose with the group on the beach. No way the resort group wasn't having a better time. Air conditioning, nice beds, attractive, interesting men. Too much fake crying and not enough flirting, fun and romantic shots. Maybe there wasn't much real chemistry with these people this year.

What's next, one knife, one car, one virus unleashed upon the world? This show used to be so good. Miss it. Can we get Mina back now, please?!!

And what happened to Jenny's kids/kid? I know she had a son at least. Wasn't his girlfriend the one who went missing in the first season?