jonesingjay

Very well stated. I wish I could give this more than one thumb up. This all very well could shed some understanding and acceptance on the issue by fans of the Kardashians who otherwise might've never really given any thought to those that are transgender.

It'll be interesting to see how the relationships between Caitlyn and her older children develop. I don't think there is any reason that could explain why she abandoned them. She might use having trouble with her gender identity as part of the reason, but that doesn't wash for me. Regardless of the issues she was having with herself, she could've made the effort to be there for the four oldest ones. I think it's a great testament to the wonderful parenting job her ex-wives did, and the four old Jenner's willingness to forgive Caitlyn and move on. I hope she is grateful that she's been given another opportunity to have a relationship with Burt, Casey, Brandon and Brody. I'd like to believe that since she's now able to be herself, that it's freeing for her and positively effects the relationships with those in her life. On, something of a completely unrelated note, I caught her on an episode of Murder, She Wrote. She was in her late 30s at the time this episode was filmed. Not on hormones (at least I don't think) and she looked pretty good.

The violence and discrimination is horrible. Simply directed at a person because someone doesn't understand and strongly disagrees with their choice to live their life authentically.

I might not understand where someone is coming from, in the same way they don't understand or agree with my perspective. We all have the right to our opinions, which has the potential for interesting discussions to develop between people of differing opinions.

I'm of the opinion that this isn't a play for the Kardashian brand. I'm frankly surprised that people have expressed the opinion that they don't believe Caitlyn is actually transitioning. I do think her transition from Bruce into a woman is genuine. Even if she were to document herself having srs I wouldn't be surprised if some people still didn't believe this was actually true. She shouldn't have to prove it.

Shep seemed so pressed about Craig. For me, he came off like a dick in the reunion the same way he did in the season finale.

I understand the point of view. I think what she's doing, not so much for the community but for herself is a good thing. My hope is that she's finally at peace.

I understand where you're coming from, but I see it a bit differently. Thank you for explaining your point of view and presenting a different perspective for me to consider.

I couldn't think of a title. So, if anyone has any suggestions feel free to share them. I'm currently watching season seven. What I'm finding fairly annoying is all of those non Murder, She Wrote episodes squeezed in, that start off with Jessica talking to the audience. I automatically bypass those.

You make a good point. Maybe, this thread needs to be retitled the Busy Body Angel Of Death? LOL. Wherever a murder happens, Jessica Fletcher will be there!

She'll receive the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the Espy's, good for Caitlyn and I wish her nothing but the best.

LOL. That definitely made my eyebrows raise.

It doesn't get sniped.

You think she'd be unhappy to unload him, if her comment upon learning of this job opportunity was to point out he'd finally be able to help financially. It appears that she's been supporting the both of them.

I'm looking forward to watching season three of this franchise after NY turned out to be a dud. Tonya appears to be up to her same old hateful tricks which is disappointing.

I can't chalk it all up to being about money. That's an element to it. I think there is more to it than preserving financial stability. I'm not from Bruce's generation, but the fear of being 'different', and fighting hard against what he was feeling, lead to some questionable decision making on his part. Now, he's hopefully living his authentic life, which in turn might allow for positive changes in his relationships with family, friends, and his personal life in general.

I don't think it's that black and white. I think it's more complicated than that.

With that said I'd definitely buy a copy of Vanity Fair for the first time in my life!

I don't care for Kathryn either. I don't even find her entertaining in a reality show character kind of way. I probably would've enjoyed her more if she had paired off with Craig, those two hot messes together might've made what I thought was a lackluster season interesting. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that she was linked to Shep, Thomas and Whitney. Yet, Craig who really did back then and it appears even now seemed to genuinely be into her didn't get a shot at her.

Nah, she probably had him when he looked like this: https://instagram.com/p/10qrOoyIxR/?taken-by=rezafarahan

I was more interested in their backstory than their weight loss. A couple of thirteen year olds managing to take care of not only themselves, but their younger siblings and no one the wiser. I've got more questions than answers after watching this episode. How long was the mom away for? How did four kids living on their own go unnoticed? Did they pay all of the bills in cash? They didn't have any relatives who checked in on them? Good on them for losing the weight. Two fine upstanding young men. I wish them nothing but the best. It's nice to view an episode where the participants aren't relying on excuses and being generally annoying.

I just don't know how graphic Bruce is willing to be in terms of describing surgeries that he has and will receive. I'm not saying it's out of the realm of possibilities that they would/have discussed surgeries. They are a family that loves to have things done.

Spliced the scenes together. Very creative. I really liked that technique.