LadyMustang65

Like many, glad to see Joe gone but can't believe JP is also gone. Although honestly I have to admit that I do not dislike Bobby as much now as I did at the beginning, and I do think he's shown improvement, much more so than Joe ever did. So I can live with his being in the finale, but I am beyond irritated at losing some really good dancers like Tinashe and JP to get him there. Evanna and Milo got all my votes last night. Would someone please clue me in on what happened between Emma and Gleb? I was just coming back in from the kitchen, and I saw Emma's reaction, but I didn't see what happened. I assumed maybe she'd slipped or there had been some kind of mishap she was laughing off, but from some comments on here, it doesn't sound like that was the case. TYIA! Lastly, am I the only one who finds it a bit weird/borderline creepy when male celebs dedicate a dance like the AT to their mothers?

Who the hell is voting for Joe and how do we make them stop?

I respectfully disagree. First, from the way that water was running in the river, it would have been pretty loud. Second, helicopters aren't that loud when they're further away. When they're right over you or in relatively close range, yes. They're wicked loud. But at a distance, not so much. Third, the folks at the bridge would have to have spotted the helicopter when it was well up in the air in order to be seen through all those trees. Once it started to descend, it would have been pretty well shielded from sight. Fourth, I'm pretty sure the folks at the bridge had their minds and emotions well occupied with having just watched Rick die (or so they thought). You've got Michonne screaming and crying, Maggie and Carol trying to hold her back, Darryl had to turn his back. Fifth, there's the sound of the fire itself that was still raging on the bridge. Fires are loud up close. (Oh, and the smoke would have helped obscure the helicopter.) And sixth, while I don't remember the scene that vividly, going by your description, the helicopter was coming in on the other side of Jadis, so not coming in from the bridge side. Jadis can see the smoke but not the bridge, so again unless they spotted it when it was high in the air, the people at the bridge probably would not have been able to see the helicopter. So that part didn't seem all that far-fetched to me. Except she first said he was a B and then changed that to an A. He certainly wasn't volunteering for anything. We really just don't have enough information to go on to know what that was all about, and I'm guessing we'll never know, and that's annoying. They shouldn't throw in something like that if they didn't plan to explain it.

To us it looked like Rick had fallen into the river along with the herd and had been swept downstream before pulling himself out (or washing up) on the bank. So we assumed Jadis was far enough away from the rest, as she didn't really seem to know what was up with all the zombie parts flowing past her in the river, that she wasn't aware of the bridge blowing up, and they couldn't see or hear the helicopter.

This actually annoyed me because I feel like we'll never get an answer now. Jadis/Anne thought Father Gabriel was a B but then decided he was an A after he said he forgave her. And she let him go. Then she said Rick was a B. I was initially thinking an A was a strong fighter-type and a B was more of a follower type, which made a bit of sense with her re-characterizing Gabriel. But it makes zero sense in connection to Rick. But with Jadis/Anne flying away with Rick after telling them she needed to leave there, I'm thinking we're never going to know who those people are and what that was all about. Because how do they do that without showing us Rick? And along those lines, how does a live Rick Grimes NOT find a way to escape and get back to his family after 9 (or 6) years? Because the Rick Grimes we've known the past 9 seasons would never be able to be kept away from them. So does that mean he didn't make it after all? Ugh. Too many questions raised that I just don't see ever getting answered. :( I was doing all right until Darryl's lip quivered. Then the tears flowed. Rick was a deeply flawed character, but I loved him. And I really think he was the heart of the show. I'm just not sure how well it's going to go without him there. Also, am I the only one who thought it was weird that 9 (or 6) years later and maybe what now - a decade or more after the zombie apocalypse - there are still random groups of people wandering around the countryside? I had always assumed that by then everyone would have ended up banding together into some kind of village - like Sanctuary, Hilltop, Alexandria, Oceanside, etc.- and have become farmers to survive. Not sure what the purpose is of setting off on foot for parts unknown, especially if you don't have super zombie-killing powers. It just seems like they should have evolved past that stuff. I did kind of like Judith Grimes taking over for daddy, but it remains to be seen how that will play out. If she's some kind of leader in a group of adults, I'll be pissed. That will just be more than I could handle. Also, am I the only one who really wanted to see what happened in that little egg suck at the camp? Looks like all the Saviors ended up dead while all (or at least most) of the good guys survived? Convenient. Not that I'll miss any of the Saviors or that I wanted to see Jerry or Carol or some of the others end up dead. But I would like to have seen that. Much more than I wanted to see Maggie and Negan. And there was astonishingly little satisfaction in seeing Negan reduced to tears and begging to die. Not sure why. Best thing about that was the scene between Maggie and Michonne. And I did like Maggie deciding that Rick had been right and not killing Negan herself. I liked the three scenes with Hershel, Shane and Sasha. Those were probably the right three to bring back. {Realized after reading this, that I'm actually pissed they didn't bring Glenn back. He should have been in the mix somewhere.} Last little nitpick - I really don't understand why Rick ended up bringing the walkers back to the bridge. That was what Darryl said originally, and Rick was hellbent on saving the bridge. He was leading them away - why not just keep leading them away? He could have gotten them a few miles out heading away, then gotten far enough ahead of the herd to circle back around them. Did I miss something? Oh well. I'm still in as we see how this new world develops. Thank, Andy Lincoln, for an incredible job, and best of luck with your career.

Really? Because I was positive it flashed on screen that it was 9 years. Unless I was watching upside down?

Who is voting for Joe and why? I was really hoping his better scores this week meant we'd finally come to the end of his road, as so often happens when a celeb who's been struggling is leaving, but no. We're stuck with him another week. Ugh. He's a terrible dancer, he's boring, and for my taste anyway he's not even that good-looking. He's even making me dislike Jenna! Just go already! Loved Milo, Evanna and Juan Pablo tonight. Thought John was better than what the judges saw. No way was Joe better than John. Bobby was okay. Agree with others that DeMarcus is slipping a bit, but I still like him. I can usually tolerate the showmances, but Alexis' package even made me cringe. An actress she is not! Just stop already! Sorry to see MaryLou go. She wasn't the best dancer, but I've been enjoying her, which is more than I can say for Joe. Nice to see Jabbawockeez (yeah, I know that's not how they spell it <lol>). Also enjoyed seeing Twitch and Alllison. I do like her . . . just not as a ballroom pro. Really missed the team dances on Halloween night. And I missed Sasha running around pulling pranks on everyone. He was great with MaryLou, but he used to prank the others as well. He nearly gave Erin an on-screen heart attack one year. <lol>

Who is Bay?

Okay, way off topic, but thank you!!! I thought I was the only person in the world who hated it. Nice to know I'm not alone.

I have never really enjoyed watching kids do ballroom dancing, whether it be here or on shows like America's Got Talent, and it's for just that reason. Watching a couple of 10-year-old kids do the tango, for instance, is just creepy and makes me feel really uncomfortable. I did see a couple of kids do a jive once that was really great and fun, not at all sexualized, but that was probably the only time I've enjoyed watching young ones dance.

It was Kerri Strug but not a broken foot. Third degree lateral sprain and some tendon damage. Still very impressive, though. :)

Congratulations to Shin Lim on his win!! Very deserving. And congratulations to the voters as well. We were so pleasantly surprised to see the top 4 were all acts we really liked! So did not expect that to happen. :) Some random thoughts: I have liked Daniel Emmet all along, but hearing him sing with Placido Domingo showed how much more work he needs to do on training his voice. Placido is deservedly one of the greats, and Daniel didn't embarrass himself by singing with him, but it was clear who the real pro was. We appear to be about the only ones who genuinely enjoyed Mel B's "comedy" act. The whole thing was silly but enjoyable. Although I honestly was a bit sorry that Samuel didn't get to do another set of his own. We have liked him all along and find him to be genuinely amusing and funny. We also appear to be about the only ones who enjoy Heidi. She can be a bit of a ditz at times, but we love her enthusiasm when she is asked to take part in an act. She just seems like a real good sport. Having Courtney sing a Janis Joplin song just really brought home how much she is *not* Janis Joplin or even close to being Janis Joplin. :( We did not care for Tyra at first, but she grew on us over the past few years. At times she's a bit much, but she's mostly enjoyable. However, Hans as host would be worth a shot. Both of us had the same reaction to Garth Brooks writing a song for Michael. We wanted to hear Garth sing it. It was a nothingburger coming from Michael. Loved Brian and Linsdsay playing together. That was great. Vickie was at her funniest when paired with David Spade. Make of that what you will. It's funny, but while the season overall has been somewhat lackluster, we felt the finale was one of the better ones we can remember. And this was honestly the most satisfying top 4 ever. For us at least. Your mileage may vary. Until next season!

We thought this was one of the better finales in terms of people really bringing it. Brian King Joseph is wonderful, and as plus, he's just so darn cute and has a smile that lights up a room. Plus with the success of Lindsay Sterling, it's a good time for this act. For our money he would be a worthy winner. Vickie - How is she still here? Her first performance was her funniest, and it still wasn't really terribly funny. And there was no "trailer nasty" in that first one. Each successive performance has been getting worse and worse, and last night was truly cringe-worthy. Could not believe she's been doing this for 20 years. Aren't you supposed to get better with practice? :( Daniel Emmett - I love his voice and have liked all but one of his performances. I thought last night was terrific. Even my husband grudgingly admitted he was pretty good, and that's a first. Hubby didn't vote for Daniel, of course, but I did. I personally wouldn't mind him winning, but given that he hasn't been getting through each round strictly on viewer votes, I don't expect that to happen. Glennis Grace - has been good each week, but I just don't see her as a standout. She's reliably good, though. But since she has a career already, I don't necessarily want to see her win this nor do I think she will. But I would expect her to be in the top 5. Zucaroh - They were amazing once again last night. I love the story-telling. I don't think a dance troupe has ever won, but we both think they could be the exception. And we could really see them as a Vegas act. Duo Transcend - I know what they do takes skill, but it's just the same thing over and over again. Neither one of us even saw her apparently drop him at the end because we'd long since lost interest by then and were looking at Facebook on our phones. :\ Courtney Hadwin - We have developed a severe dislike of her by this point in time. So so done with her. Hate her screeching and screaming. Hate her spastic movements. Hate her pointing. She looks like a young Mick Jagger but without his showmanship. Like Duo Transcend, she's a one-note performer. Every song sounds and looks exactly the same. We're just tired of it. Michael Ketterer - A decent singer but he just doesn't really stand out. Give him a halo and name him a saint, but we don't really want to see him win. Shin Lim - He's amazing, and we love to watch him perform. This performance was no exception, and we like that he changed it up a bit. It was nice to hear him play. Another one we would consider a worthy winner. Samuel J. Comroe - For our money, he's another one that we would consider a worthy winner. Humor is subjective, but this guy makes us laugh every single time. Not always big belly laughs. Sometimes it's just quiet chuckles. But we have loved every single one of his performances. No real clue who is going to win, but my inclination is that Zucaroh could sneak in there, and that would be great.

Vickie made it through? WTF? Ugh. Brian made it through!!! Yay! I'm okay with Daniel making it through. I've liked him. But I did feel kind of bad for We Three since Daniel has been saved multiple times while they were getting through without assistance from the show. But whatever. Courtney made it through. <yawn> Glennis Grace made it through. Yay! (The DH thinks she's great.) We would like to see the win go to either Zurcaroh, Samuel, Shin Lim, or Brian. We're guessing the judges want it to go to either Michael or Courtney. We'll see next week!

We love Brian Joseph King. He never fails to entertain us, and I hope he makes it through. Christina Wells was off. Glennis was good, we thought. Hated Noah. I liked Daniel; hubby not so much. We liked We Three--enjoyed the song but the sound was off. Hubby thinks the girl should be the lead singer rather than the guy. Also liked Angel City Choir, but it was hard to hear the singers. How have they not figured out how to properly mic singers and groups after 15 seasons? We are both so over Courtney. We liked her the first week. I didn't care for her song choice the second time, although hubby still thought it was good. We both think Steppenwolf should sue her for what she did to their song last night. It was just awful. The problem with her is she's a one hit wonder. Every single one of her performances sounds exactly the same. Screech, dance very badly, everything done full bore. To borrow from Len Goodman of DWTS, there is no light and shade in her singing, so it becomes very boring very quickly. She'll probably go through. She may even win this whole thing. But we are over her. Completely and totally over her. Vickie was mildly amusing the first time, and that was also the last time she made either of us laugh. Trailer nasty needs to go away. A big nope. Aaron Crow is a great entertainer, but for the second time in a row, he has kind of bored us. And what is it with people who refuse to speak? It really doesn't add anything to their act unless they're Tape Face. Annoying. We're not sure how we feel about Da Republik. Hubby voted for them; I didn't. But we both agreed that we much prefer Zurcaroh. So at the end of the day the only one we're really invested in seeing go through from this group is Brian Joseph King. We thought he was the best of the night last night, and it would be nice to see a musician who is not also a singer get some more play.

We were very happy to see Hannahlei win. We have loved her since the Academy, and nothing that happened on the show made us waver from wanting to see her win. I was bummed that no one picked Cole/Hannahlei's Broadway number with the umbrella. That was for us perhaps the best dance of the season. We thoroughly enjoyed that. We were really thrilled that Evan was given a new number to dance with Lex (did not remember him being so very good at tap!), and it was superb!! So nice he got a chance to shine for a minute there. That routine really rocked. Enjoyed seeing Twitch and Nigel join in the boys' dance. Were kind of surprised they didn't include Evan as they did with the girls' number. That was a clever way to get those who had been eliminated back in. Maybe they didn't because he got the new number with Lex. And if they were only going to do one or the other, then definitely much preferred his new number. Overall a very satisfying conclusion. We didn't notice anything off with Hannahlei's reaction, but that's a very subjective thing. Would love to see DWTS pick up Cole in the troupe. Did I hear Cat say they'd be back next summer?

Comedy is very subjective. We absolutely adore Samuel. He makes us laugh every time. Sometimes just quiet little amused laughs and sometimes full outright laughing. It's like last season a lot of people just loved Preacher Lawson, and honestly we couldn't stand him. I don't think he ever made us laugh once (although most of the time we couldn't understand a damn thing he was saying). It's like with the other comic there now - Vickie. Cannot stand her. Didn't like her the first time she was on and liked her less the second time. Different strokes. :) I am so very happy that Us the Duo went home. Now they can have their baby in peace and let us out of it. Sorry to see Voices of Hope go. We did like them. Glad to see Zucaroh and Shin Lim made it through. Don't care about Michael - seems like a nice guy and has a nice voice, but he doesn't wow me. We're still stuck with Duo Transcend, but I guess we can't have it all. Mostly a good group going through. Right now we would be happy with a win for any of Samuel, Shin Lim, or Zucaroh.

Of all the acts last night, there were only a few that we really liked. Samuel Comroe is my favorite, and hubby likes him too. He has made us laugh each time, and we just find him very personable. We really want him to be there at the end. Zucaroh is another one that we really like. Once again another great show. Those two were top performers for us last night. We enjoyed Voices of Hope choir, but agree with some others than something was off with the sound. There was no reason the lead singers should have been drowned out like that. But they were not the only singers plagued by poor sound mixing, so maybe they need some new hires? We also enjoyed Shin Lim. He's usually a top performer for us, but last night, while amazing, seemed a little slow. Not enough to keep us from voting for him, though, and wanting him to go through. Beyond that, there was no one in the rest of the group that we really want to see go through. And at this point I think I actively hate Us the Duo. God, I am sick to death of them and their 'amazing' 'no one else in the entire history of mankind has ever loved like we love or ever had a baby' backstory. And that song was just horrid. Please just go the eff away. Now. Also don't care for the other "Duo." I recognize what they do is hard and takes a lot of practice, but there's only so long I can watch them making shapes on a trapeze. And transitioning to making shapes on roller skates didn't help. God I hate that. I hated the brother-sister act that did that stuff recently, and I hated watching these guys do it. Another one I just want to go away now. The other singers are all, in our humble opinion anyway, decent enough singers and pleasant to listen to, but none of them seem to really stand out vocally. They're okay but nothing more. And while we are amazed by the guys who dance in heels, if it weren't for that gimmick, they'd be just another one of myriad dance troupes we've seen. The dancing in heels is what's amazing - not really they're dancing. And I have to admit we are over acts like Front Pictures and the other one that made it through. Maybe they read differently in person, but sitting at home watching on tv is kind of boring. If Samuel Comroe, Zucaroh and Shin Lim make it through, we'll be happy. We would add Voices of Hope to that list as our other favorite. After that, we really don't care except that I actively don't want to see either of the Duos ever again.

I am honestly afraid you might be right. No. Just no. Jensen does not have the personality that Lindsey does nor does she have the dance chops either. It would be as bad as watching Allison Holker on there as a pro. :(

We thought everyone did a great job last night, but Hannahlei continues to be our favorite. We are ones who do not find her unable to emote. Or if she is, we've never noticed it. She seems to do well with everything she's been given. We especially loved her final dance with Gennessy. We agreed with the judges that their synchronization was wonderful; even their body shapes were almost dead on the same most of the time. Really spectacular to watch. We thought the difference between Hannalei and Jensen was particularly noticeable in their duet. That Jensen dances "heavy" is the only way to describe it, and it was especially obvious dancing next to Hannahlei who seems to just soar. Also loved Hannalei and Slavik's jazz routine. That's probably my favorite Jazz routine ever on this show. And I have to say we thought she did a good job of keeping up with Fikshun. Usually we don't even notice whoever is dancing with him because he just draws the eye, but we thought the two of them were pretty well matched (obviously he's much better at that style, but he did a good job of not overpowering her in the routine), and she managed to keep some of our focus on her. We also loved Robert and Jensen's dance, although to be honest, we would really have loved to have seen that dance with Robert and Hannalei. Again Jensen performed it well, but Hannahlei would have given it an otherworldly quality. Jensen is just more 'pedestrian' maybe? I don't know what it is - I just can't warm up to her. And watching her and Lindsey together, it was so clear that Jensen is not in Lindsey's league as a dancer. Hate to break it to her, but she may always be Lindsey's sister to us. Hoping she doesn't end up on DWTS. We still love that show and have zero interest in seeing Jensen on it. Magda maybe. Cole maybe. But not Jensen. Anyway, really hoping for a Hannahlei win. :)

Sorry. Didn't mean to ruin it for you. I'm sure you're right and it was meant to be just a sweet song about a parent's hopes and dreams and I don't seriously think they won't love their little girl no matter how she comes out, but it's one of those things that just hits too close to home for me to find it anything but toxic. Cranky old lady. :)

I came to the realization last night that I have officially reached "Cranky Old Lady" status. I enjoyed Us the Duo through the first couple of rounds - the first appearance more than the second. But last night I was just incredibly annoyed. All of it annoyed me. The whole "I'm pregnant" story - how amazing! It's not like 900 million women before you have ever had a kid. Then really? Winning AGT is your grand plan for securing your child's future? The $25,000/year you'll get for the next 40 years? Better start working on Plan B. And then even the song itself annoyed me. I get it was supposed to be a cutesy song, but as the mother of a child who is a member of the LGBTQ community, I've met and supported way too many children who have been rejected by their parents and struggled with depression and self-harm as a result, so the whole "if she's got her mother's eyes, I'll love her" and "if she's got her father's hair, I'll love her" crap just made me angry. It's your child, and you damn well better love her even if she comes out looking like Quasimodo or Yoda! I know I know. As I said, officially a cranky old lady. That said, I do like their voices and the way they harmonize, but last night I just wanted to slap both of them. Over indulgent and emotionally manipulative. :\ Speaking of wanting to slap people, I wanted to slap Tyra when she badgered that kid into giving up the name of the girl he likes. Way to set him up to be ridiculed and bullied at school and way to set her up as well. Ugh. Liked Zucaroh a lot. That was terrific! Also enjoyed the violinist. And the second magician. I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention because I didn't see any issue with the sign. But I liked the trick, and he has a pleasant enough stage presence, and I have no idea how you transport a motorcycle, so that was cool. Aaron Crow was just way.too.slow. And I have to admit I thoroughly enjoyed Hans. This was his best performance to date, and I just found myself completely entertained. Hubby was not similarly entertained, though.

Wow. That recently, and I already forgot it? That surprises me because we really liked both Gaby and Jaja. You'd think that would have stuck in my memory. <lol> Thanks for looking that up!

Did not see that coming. I thought for sure Slavik was going home. I don't ever remember having a finale where there were not 2 girls and 2 boys. But my memory has been known to be faulty on occasion. Does anyone else remember having a season like this? In the end I have kind of mixed feelings about what happened. On the one hand, I recognize that both Darius and JayJay are better dancers than Slavik and feel as though both deserved to be in the finale based on their dancing. On the other hand, neither one ever really connected with either me or my husband. It wasn't that we disliked them; we just tended to forget they were there if they weren't actually dancing. I don't really know what it was, but it certainly wasn't because they were AA or gay. Slavik has been growing on us over the season. He's not the best dancer, but he seems to try really hard, and it's obvious he hasn't had the training the others have had. So I could see people voting to reward his effort and willingness to throw himself into everything? And honestly one of the most memorable scenes of the season for me anyway was when they showed Gennessy backstage overwhelmed and Slavik there for her calming her down and getting her ready to go out and perform. I admit he got a lot of votes from me for that alone. Definitely not the best dancer, but I could see him being people's favorite. Anyway, we are both still on the Hannahlei train. She has been our favorite since the Academy, and nothing we have seen has changed that. We love to watch her dance and just really like the way she moves. Hoping for a win for her.

Thrilled that Samuel made it through! I know some here don't care for him, but we find him really funny, and it makes up for us having to sit through Preacher, whom we couldn't stand, last year. Comedy really is subjective, and Samuel is our cup of tea. :) Sad to see the cats go. Really, America? They trained cats!!! We couldn't have given up even one of the singers for cats? :(