Alexander Pope

Victoria F used her dress to wipe her nose and face because of lack of tissues. Classy!

I think they're secretly elated but pretending for the cameras that they care so much about Peter that they're outraged on his behalf (which Victoria F literally said).

which confirms my sense that Kevin forgot about Zoe when he said he had never been dumped.

I saw that too. So far he takes it all in good stride, so major props to him. She seems sweet in other ways, quite smitten, and oblivious to how she might be coming off.

I also noted that Katie and her mom had at least a three martini lunch. I hope Mom had the second one because she deserved it.

I continue to root for Austin and Jessica but I wasn't thrilled by the way she made "playful," i.e. sarcastic comments about his messiness, lack of beer pong ability, etc,. in front of his friends. Or the way she praised his home cooked meal as "edible" (what I wouldn't give for a home-cooked meal from anyone but me at the end of a long day--I love my husband but he doesn't cook). Austin takes it in stride but those little jabs build up and start to hurt.

her dead eyes and blank stare continue to freak me out.

On MAFS, the groom's issue with his virgin wife was that it was too much responsibility. It would be much harder to disengage himself from someone he was taking a chance on if he took her virginity. But yes, I agree that this construction of things gets it backwards from the standard way virginity used to be viewed!

But their relationship is "unconventional"!! and he likes that!

I agree on all counts. It is definitely a dated film but it stuck with me. I didn't forget the ending. I found it complicated and moving. You can love someone but that doesn't always mean it will work. My misunderstanding! But I'm happy to have provoked some interesting conversation about a film I loved growing up.

Plot summary from IMDB: "Opposites attract when, during their college days, Katie Morosky (Barbra Streisand), a politically active Jew, meets Hubbell Gardiner (Robert Redford), a feckless WASP. Years later, in the wake of World War II, they meet again and, despite their obvious differences, marry. Hubbell wants to be a screenwriter, so the two move to California despite Katie's objections. They prosper there, but as the Hollywood blacklist looms, Katie's activism threatens her husband's reputation." I obsessed over this movie precisely because there was love and marriage but ultimately it was about longing.

they were married. and the ending was filled with pathos.

Austin was very clear about liking a "strong woman," so this is so far not at all a problem for him.

I was obsessed with that movie as an adolescent with a huge crush on Robert Redford. And remember, they did fall in love ultimately! didn't they???

Ours knows when to make a graceful exit.

I think Peter should have picked up on the scary fact that thinking about the possibility of getting serious with/marrying him made Victoria F want to barf!

Her dress looked like a bad iceskating costume, complete with mesh inlays!

Didn't Zoe dump Kevin? or am I misremembering?

I totally agree with you and was also disappointed! I think the show runners are being cynical. Or maybe they just wanted to bring Chase in.

I would totally believe that. I think there is serious chemistry between them. Did anyone else notice how in the middle of their fight, Victoria reached over and started stroking Alaya's eyebrow (or thereabouts)? It was very intimate. Actually, Victoria may have been wiping away Alaya's tears. Either way, it was strange.

I always assume they choose country music most of the time to appeal to what they think is a "heart land" demographic. And BTW, Cleveland and the Midwest have the warmest and most loving people in the world, and they all love country music!

When I'm exhausted before bed, I take a bath--but they made that much harder to do for people in this awkward situation by putting the tub in the bedroom!

I like Austin too and I like him and Jessica together. Agree with all that's been said about his need for a makeover. I also wonder--does anyone think he might be a drinker? When they first introduced him in the first "meet the couples" episode, he had a drink in his hand, alone. Then when he and Jessica first talked after the ceremony, he said he wished he had a whiskey, but champagne would do. I am not a teetotaller but I wondered if these might be red flags.

I was really traumatized by the guy who yelled at Gurki about her marriage. That was way too real for me. And the ending was like a consumerist fantasy of Mary Tyler Moore in Soho. I found it creepy.

Did anyone else note how verbally abusive Tony was to her? those sadistic notes filled with insults, my favorite of which was "you look like a Jewish manicurist"? I get that they had a love/hate relationship and got off on fighting and making out after, but still, that made me sympathize with him a hell of a lot less. That definitely took its toll.