BrindaWalsh

Call me insane but don't I remember Blac Chyna on KUWTK way back when early on as a best friend of Kimmie?

It is a good point. After the hype of the dress, she stood out because it was Marilyn's dress, not because she looked stunning, show stopping, etc. There were better statements out there, better looks, better creativity, better vavavoom, better dressed celebs. I'd argue that of the family, Kendall looked best. I can't even say that the dress wore her, rather than she wore the dress. This is a case of she did nothing for the dress and the dress did nothing for her. But she doesn't get best anything just because it is Marilyn's dress.

That is a great question. I suspect they roll their eyes at them still. When you look at their personal social crowd it is still Jonathan and Malika, etc. Legit celebs that come in come in via the partners and go out just as quickly. An extreme example but Bey and Kim aren't hanging. The one exception to that is probably Kendall because of the modeling.

Actually, yes, Jackie O. And omfg I can't believe they actually did that. It just came together in my mind. What assholes.

We have Kanye to thank. Without him, that "leap to legitimacy" - if legitimacy is what it actually is, but for lack of a better word - never would have happened.

So. An honest question. Kim just closed the Met Gala red carpet wearing Marilyn's dress. Like seriously, where does one go from there? From sex tape to this. I don't quite get how it happened, I suspect I contributed in some passive viewer and snarky commenter way, but well done. I tip my top hat to you. Honestly she looks like she has lost some weight, and maybe she shrank her ass to fit the dress?

Oh oh oh! I know this because I heard the commentary! They took Travis's outfit and deconstructed it for Kourtney in her style and it was brilliant and perfect and wonderful and smart and perfect and....

Oh, I think she looks kind of boring (outfit) and terrible (her makeup and hair). I don't know if it is the dress, the shoes, or the nerves but she looks a little wobbly and twitchy up there as well.

Oh, I was prepared to actually be kind of impressed if she shaved her head for this. I don't know why. But I was.

Is her hair in a bun? Did she shave her head?????

It reminds me of something Betty Draper would have worn and pulled off. Kris needs to be taller and thinner for that look. Kendall could get away with it.

They walked the carpet, E just aired them. But didn't give them much coverage. Khloe got the most coverage of them so far.

Trying to find a pic of Kendall, she just arrived and she looks stunning. Khloe, Kourtney, and Kylie look predictable.

Damn. How the hell did that happen? Okay Corey, we see you.

Okay. Let's be more creative and less realistic. How about in a Honda? Pink leather interior in a Honda?

How do I get Kylie's car? I want that pink leather interior.

Of course she does. The cameras will be rolling. Maybe she can man the guestbook. Omg I would dye laughing if Teresa made Melissa the guestbook person. Because while I don't like Teresa, that doesn't mean that Melissa isn't forever thirsty.

That has always bothered me about the Ks. They adopt the style of their partner - for lack of a better phrase. Or maybe they try to dress what they perceive their partners world to be? We saw it happen with Khloe and Lamar. We saw it happen with Kim and Kanye. We saw it happen with Kylie and Tyga. We saw it happen with now again with Kourtney and Travis. For women who claim to be so independent and strong, why is their styling so influenced by their partners? It's weird.

Amen to both of you.

Louie saying "she's trying to take your seat" is all I needed to hear to confirm what I've thought from the beginning. I wanted to really listen to the conversation between Joe Gorga and Louie but I was so distracted by the bedazzled dog tags. Is that a thing? Or just in Nashville with bedazzled black jackets? Louie didn't explain shit to Joe. He just said the same exact lines again. Anybody else notice that? I have realized that the reason Dolores gets away with being friends with all of them is that she sits there just nodding along and saying "that's true" with raised eyebrows and a bobbing head when something is said that is fact. She knows full fact how out of line Teresa is, she tried to diffuse last episode which I can appreciate but she will never say "Teresa, what YOU did was wrong." But she will tell the others that. So she sits there and plays both sides of the fence yet will only really hold one side accountable. I do agree that Margaret doesn't accept her role in problems. It becomes "what I did wasn't as bad therefore I am exonerated!". That is not productive either. But the bottom line is that she is never going to get what she wants from Teresa. Ever. And she knows that. You have two women (okay, you have one woman, Margaret, and little-penis-girl Teresa) who are never going to agree, listen or give an inch. And it didn't start now, it has been building. Teresa *has* to be in conflict with somebody, she can't handle any different. It is as simple as that. Anybody besides me find it kind of amusing that we learned for a fact that Bill cheated on Jen, while she was PREGNANT with their 3rd child, and he is the one who came out of this season looking like a decent, fun, stand up guy???

Agreed! My favorite season was actually season 3 because you get Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years in one season. You also got the Dominican Republic trip, so you had the warm weather experience. "Summer in Jersey!" is an actual thing - down the shore, out in the hamptons, etc. But I'd love another season that covered the same time frame as season 3.

I remember the Abercrombie phase so well. And I couldn't fit into the clothing. I didn't fit the look. And honestly no matter how thin I got, I never would have for their look. I had boobs, a butt and curves and that was not in during the 90s and early 2000s at all. But they weren't the only ones. I remember a store called 5-7-9. Anybody remember that one? They literally only sold clothes in a size 5, 7, or 9. That's it. Anyway, I am digressing. I always knew that something about Abercrombie didn't seem right or feel right. I assumed it was because I was a chubby, frizzy haired uncool girl and I didn't fit in at the cool kid table. But watch it kind of clicked things into place. I remember the t-shirts. I remember hearing that you had to look a certain way to work there. I remember the "we don't want you" vibe. I remember not understanding why all the boys in the ads were barely wearing anything. At 17 years old it never occurred to me how wrong all of that was, that a company was dictating that stuff. I thought it was just one other thing in the 90s/early 00 years that made me feel like I didn't fit in. So watching this is a holy shit moment. I am learning a lot in these Netflix documentaries that growing up as a girl in the 90s was NOT as great as they made it out to be! Thank you Netflix!

She walks like she's got that dildo she got Jackie last year stuck where the sun don't shine. Reunion promo is out. Looks like more of the same.

Interesting note on the furniture -- I noticed that Teresa has lowered the bar a bit on her furnishings. There is pottery barn artwork on the walls and the mirror for Gia was definitely a home goods item. Stars. They're just like us!!! As much grief as I give Teresa and her actions, I also feel oddly protective of her (she might be a raging trashy maniac this season but she's our raging trashy maniac, thank you very much!) and there are a lot of red flags with Louie. I don't believe for a moment that he didn't know exactly who she was. The over the top gestures would make a lot of people uncomfortable because they are TOO much. The allegations from multiple ex-girlfriends with the same "they're crazy, who doesn't have a crazy" blame the victim/gaslighting/misogynistic bullshit. The road rage incident. The little comments we've seen on the show "how will she learn??" The way he spoke to Margaret. The contradictions on what we actually see and what he says. And quite honestly, the biggest red flag to me is Gia who seems to genuinely want to see her mother happy but her hesitation about all of this is palpable. I don't know. Compare this scenario to Dolores's new boyfriend and when his name became known, we found out that he's Irish, owns an electrical contracting company and...I think that's it?

NJ gets HOT in the summer -- we may be northeast but between the heat and humidity it can be miserable. Granted, it's all relative, if you are coming from florida in August you may come up to NJ and think it's downright cool, but for us, it's hot. But take us out of Jersey and put us down south in the summer where there's no ocean breeze? Forget it, we're prepared to sweat through everything and wear as little as humanely possible. Nashville was filmed in the later half of August. You can tell pretty easily when the housewives are in filming season, actively filming that day, and cameras are off all together . If cameras are off, they dress like the rest of us. Sure it might be designer leggings, sneakers and a puffer jackets, but they blend in. You can tell when they are filming because they suddenly glam up a bit. Their extensions go in, the highlights get amped up, and And on filming days you see them dressed down but hair and makeup is done, they basically just need an outfit change. I've seen Margaret, Jackie and used to see Siggy around before she moved from the area and you can immediately tell which stage of the game they are at. To quote Jen, she's way too self-absorbed for that. I think the boat that past them in the water WAS heckling them and the guys were too dumb to know the difference. It kind of bothers me that they were in Nashville and aren't seeing Nashville. Why aren't they at the Country Music Hall of Fame, the Grand Ol' Opry, in and out of the bars on Broadway? Why are we watching them on a boat in a lake, in a recording studio and having dinner in a backyard? They can do that in NJ. I think they are hotter as a couple than he is individually. (Same with Jennifer and Bill.) Evan strikes me as a bit of a grown up frat boy, and not having much substance and depth to him, I don't see much personality there. He's vanilla. Hey, on a sidenote, anybody know where Gabrielle is going to College? Isn't this her senior year?