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And what we also see is the total distain that most of his non Robyn children have for him. This can't be faked. They may be all in on trying to keep the show going for the money but I don't believe for a minute that Kody and Robyn are anything other than horrible people who have cheated and abused the rest of the family to have what they want and the rest of the family be damned. Kody is not playing a part. He sees nothing wrong with how he treated the 3 wives who have left him and their children whom he has neglected. And I can never get over how he heaped love, attention and expensive Christmas presents on the Robyn children and neglected to even give Savannah a call on Christmas Day a few years ago. No one in their right mind would allow themselves to be portrayed in the manner that Kody has on the show just for money. He comes across at least to me that he believes he is the injured party. He is not acting a role.

This is why to me Bronwyn has no creditability. She changes her story every time she gets caught in a lie or at the very least an exaggeration. She tries to cover her tracks but it just leads to more questions because none of it makes any sese. And she is not the only housewife to do this. Remember Vickie's fur coat the one that Brooks "gifted" her? Yes it was hers until it had to be returned the next day.

I also caught that they do not have conversations with Zade. They ask him a question like "do you love the Christmas tree?" And he says yes and that's all he says. Instead Carlin should be asking him open ended questions like tell me what you will miss about the tree when it is gone. He needs to be encouraged to speak. If they read to him ask him to tell them about his favorite books and ask questions like what do you think is going on in this picture? They should be included in the speech therapy sessions and have the therapist help them practice having conversations with him. Layla turns 5 next week and I think she is behind the average 5 year old in her speech. The kids are probably bright but they have a couple of not so bright parents.

I think that Janelle pretty much said that legally the people listed on the deeds to the lots would be the only ones receiving the proceeds from the sale of said lots. But she said that they were now working on the distribution os assets. It's good that Meri and Janelle hired attorneys or Kody would have robbed them blind.

She was trying to have the conversation shut down because she knew that she and Todd had been caught in a big fat lie. He did not buy the $4.000.000 necklace. She also said that she thought about wearing it for the reunion indicating that she still had it further compounding the lie. The sales associate may have been unprofessional and may have jeopardized her job but that in no way excuses Bronwyn and Todd lying about buying jewelry that they did not buy.

I don't know about that. She insisted that her GD credit paid for all of the tickets even Heather's. How would she be able to purchase plane tickets for all of the women and their spouses without knowing the names and birth dates on their ID's? When Heather pointed this out to her she got that pissed off look on her face and shut up. I am convinced that she lies more than she speaks the truth.

This is what I was referring to when I asked why John was involved in the miscarriage story.

I bet a lot of the faithful suspect Rob is a traitor. But individually they are afraid to make a move to vote him out. And if they go to others in the game at this time not all will agree to a group vote like what happed with Nikki. Some will squeal to Rob and he will convince enough players that it is someone else. He helped get Tony out and he orchestrated the ouster of BTDQ. It's going to have to be a group effort to take him out.

I hate to keep rehashing the Bronwyn pregnancy miscarriage not miscarriage but one question. Did Gwen's father know that he had a child with Bronwyn and he chose to ignore his own child or did she keep this information from him? So many different versions of this story have been told that who knows what is true. If Bronwyn was so protective of Gwen that she wanted to keep Gwen in the dark about the grandparents rejecting her why did she go on a reality show and engage in conversations with other housewives about this? Why is John Barlow involved in this miscarriage mystery? In the worlds of Nene he should stay out of women business. I have zero respect for the Housewives husbands who want to get right in the middle of the arguments and start flinging mud.

She screwed him so bad that he and Robyn had nothing left and were forced to move into a $1,000,000 home and then horrors they had to trade up to a $2,000,000 home. Yeah Janelle is the real evil one here.

She also said that the traitors were running scared. I guess she thinks the traitors felt like she was on to them. Talk about delusional.

Bronwyn has told so many lies or changed and embellished her stories so much that I don't believe anything that she says. First she claimed to have bought all of the plane tickets for the trip that she hosted but Heather called her out on this. Then here is the infidelity claim that she put out on Todd to try and get sympathy but quickly changed it to he was having inappropriate phone conversations with another woman. She sat at the table and pretty much lied about owning the $4,000,000 necklace but when she realized that Lisa had the receipts to prove that she didn't own it she came up with a convoluted story to confuse and deflect. But the confusion about Gwen's father and paternal grandparents and who said what to whom is mind boggling. I can't see Bronwyn's father making one phone call to the other grandparents and leaving a message that they shared a grandchild. I feel sorry for Gwen. All of the adults in her life have let her down.

Didn't Bronwyn say on an earlier episode that Todd bought the 4 million necklace for an anniversary present? She didn't say they took it home on approval. And Pi237 is correct. Bronwyn did not respond about the jeweler saying that she has bought nothing from them. She just acted all shocked and insulted when called out on it. The story about her daughter, the father and the grandparents seems to keep evolving. It now sounds like Gwen's father was married when he and Bronwyn got together. There is a whole lot of back story to this. I doubt that she kept information from her daughter about her grandparents and her father to protect the child. She did it to protect herself. And the fact that she lied and told the father that she had a miscarriage is beyond the pale of decency. I mean if she didn't tell the father who did?

Bronwyn kept her daughter a secret all these years from her grandparents? Then she chooses to go on a reality TV show and think this won't come out? So who told them about Gwen or did they just happen to see Bronwyn on the show and put two and two together?

Right. Whitney's so called explanation as to why her jewelry, and it wasn't just one piece, looks exactly like jewelry sold on Alibaba made no sense. She is lying. Just like Bronwyn is lying about wearing borrowed jewelry. Brownyn also lied about buying the plane tickets for everyone for the couples trip. You can tell when she gets called out for lying her facial expression changes to one of confusion and concern. I cannot follow what happened with Lisa and the miscarriage story. Who told Gwen's father and grandparents that Bronwyn had a miscarriage? And when did the grandparents find out that they had a granddaughter? You would think that after losing their son they would have moved heaven and earth to have Gwen in their lives. There is something missing from this story.

I was horrified seeing Zade walking into therapy while sucking on an uninflated ballon. It is basic child safety 101 to never give a child a ballon that has not been inflated because of the risk of suffocation. If the ballon is inhaled and sucked down the throat it can block the airway. I hope the therapist instructed these two idiots to take the ballon away for safety reasons. I can't believe that they don't know this. It's sort of like the senior Bates leaving lighters around where the two youngest boys could get them and set the laundry room on fire.

Janelle used the money from an inheritance to buy the Utah house and she cashed in her retirement to help with the move to Vegas. I think she was generous with her money. Just what did Robyn do to help with the family finances? Did she ever have a job after marrying Kody?

Are they just giving lip service to "we want to buy land so that we can build?" Don't they understand that they will never own a home if they don't take out a mortgage? Buying land and building a house takes a lot of money. With the fires in California and the flooding in Tennessee, NC and Florida building supplies are going to go through the roof. Selling prayer cards will never bring in the kind of cash needed to pay for land and a home without some financing.

Kody cannot sell the lots that have Meri and Janelle's names on them. They are co owners. So they would have to sign off on the sale also. Everyone is acting like Kody is in charge of selling the property on his own. Kody says he was left holding the bag and he and Robyn don't know what to do. What is the big mystery? Sell the property and split the money. He is deliberately obfuscating the issue of selling the property so that he can keep Janelle and Meri in the dark.

And the fact that he went ballistic when he found out that Dylan brought up his name. His comment that if anyone mentioned him he would go all ham on them. It was almost like he felt entitled to win this game. Everyone at some point will most likely have their name mentioned even BTDQ. His reaction should have been a clear indication that he was scared of being found out. And Danielle crying and carrying on when he was banished should point the finger at her.

UH OH Rob better watch out. He may have over played his hand.

Thank God, Finally!

And Gabby was on the right track but just dropped the ball. She's just like oh I thought I had something guess not.

I didn't watch this show. I can't bear to watch anymore. Did Glen enforce the 2 drink limit or no tip? It is amazing to me that he would approve any drinking while off the boat with the guests? Big issue with liability if the crew gets drunk and an accident happens or someone in the club assaults a guest and the crew is unable to prevent or stop it. These below deck shows have gone from being professionals working at their boat jobs to a bunch of drunks and horny individuals willing to have sex basically on camera with the first person of the opposite who looks at them. Please Bravo either go back to the original format or take this trash off the air.

Elmer the cow was Elsie's husband. If you google Elsie the Cow you will find out how she came about to be the iconic mascot for Borden. And there is a picture of how Elmer looked. Elsie is on Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk cans. Bordens is also on the can. If people like the name Elsie that's OK with me. To each his own. But I've been on this earth a long time and the only time that I have ever heard the name Elsie is when it is associated with the cow and old ladies. Look up Mrs. Hughes from Downton Abbey. Not the actress but the character portrayed. This is what I think Elsie looks like .