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And please God, please, let the last scene with Creepee Coltee and Mommy Dearest, where they were petting each other, be another production staged scene.

I think at this point the Chantel-Pedro story is all fake and production driven. It's obvious to me Chantel is reciting scripted lines and she's VERY bad at it, lol. Pedro's sister and Chantel's mom are also not in the running for an Oscar any time soon. It's hard for me to believe that IRL Chantel's mom, who initially tried to portray herself as classy and cultured would suddenly show herself to be a ratchet trash-ass bitch with her taser and claims ( per previews) of being ready to "throw down in an alley"😂 unless TBTB told her to for a paycheck. Or that a sister would out her brother's cheating by showing her SIL a video RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER BROTHER. Gotta be producer driven. My opinion is IRL Chantel's and Pedro's relationship is just fine and they're doing this fake fighting for the money and the spinoff. I can't stand either side of the family so do not understand why they are getting their own show. My best guess is that the dinner fight got so much reaction, combined with Chantel being a pretty woman (exception being her WAY to big implants) and Pedro being an attractive guy. I think Pedro's accent and the way he occasional mangles the English language is charming, kinda like a modern day Ricky Ricardo - and yes, I realize Ricky was Cuban, not Dominican.

Pao didn't start shit talking Russ's mom until Pao's mom took Russ's side and told her that she needed to let Russ's mom hold the baby and bond with him. ONLY THEN did it became of utmost importance to let her mom know how poorly she felt she was treated in Oklahoma. If it weren't for this show Pao would have dumped Russ as soon as she had her green card. I'm fully convinced she got pregnant solely to get another season/storyline on the show. As soon as she's off the show the Devoted Mother act will end, she will toss all responsibility for the kid onto Russ, and go back to whoring her way around Miami.

I'm loving Dean and Tarek, especially Tarek's mad crush on Chantel, lol. Also love Annie. The Skank Twins do nothing for me. They're not funny or entertaining and seems more interested in trying to look hot and sexy - which they do not. At all - than in commenting on the show. Loren irritates the crap out of me. I don't know how Alexei can stand her if that's how she prattles on IRL. I wish Loren and Alexei would put on some damn socks! I hate looking at people's feet and their's are ALWAYS right in front of the camera. Yuk! I agree she does look pregnant. It's showing in her face.

I'm not buying Colt and his Mommy as victims either. I didn't see Colt and Larissa's "Before The 90 Days" or "90 Day Fiance" but IMO, Colt brought her here figuring she'd be so grateful she'd be willing to have sex with him whenever he wanted. Treat her like a sex doll, which Larissa did accuse him of. Also wanted her as a housekeeper to take the work off Mommy Dearest. When Larissa didn't play ball he instigated a situation to get her arrested figuring THAT would give him the power and control. I still don't understand why she was arrested thr second time ( I think Mommy Dearest called the police that time after Colt called her and told her too,xx even though he claims he doesn't know who called) when he was the instigator who tried to take her phone, then shut off her phone service when she locked herself in the bathroom, making it so she couldn't contact anyone. That right there is textbook abuser behavior!! Colt is a straight up psycho. I would not be surprised if he's eventually caught as a serial killer of women - I am not even joking. He CLEARLY has mother issues and the looking his eyes is downright frightening!! He's by far the creepiest guy ever on this show!

Exactly. And I find it hard to believe a hospital would loan out piece of crap car seats. The loaner was safe and met HOSPITAL STANDARDS and that's all that matters. Libby's spoiled ass was pissed that it didn't have all the bells and whistles.

I don't think it's a "White" thing, let's not even start on that stuff, I think it's because they have money, tv fame, and are local celebrities (nauseating as it is to write that). See OJ Simpson as an example if you need proof that green is the color that trumps all others. I can't wait until they run out of money, their "fame" fades, and they have to face the consequences of their actions. I wish nothing but the worst for these monsters.

Yes! I thought exactly the same thing. Women can get melasma on the face during pregnancy but it's usually darker skinned women - those of Italian, Hispanic, Africa American descent. It's usually on the cheeks and across the nose (mask of pregnancy) or upper lip, not on the eye socket bone like Elizabeth had. Her upper lip on that same side also seemed a bit swollen and larger that the other side but her lips are oddly shaped so I could be off base there. After the way he snatched her phone away I wouldn't be surprised if the bastard did smack her in the face.

Maryssa's body language in this photo says it all about how terrified Maryssa is of David. Stiff, shoulders raised, uncomfortable fake smile. She appears to be cringing from his touch. Of course they don't want Maryssa and Jace back. They've proven to be "disloyal' and in David's eyes there is no worse crime. Maryssa and Jace told the truth, they sold them out, they didn't "stick to the story". They embarrassed and humiliated them so they must be shunned and disowned. David and Jenelle only want the smaller kids who are too young to bear witness to the atrocities that occur on The Land.

I strongly disagree with this. I think Barb posted the pic of Endsley because she knows viewers are concerned about how the kids are doing. I have nothing but respect for the way she stepped up and took care of Jace. She was at a time in her life when she should have been looking forward to retirement, living her own life, but instead she took on the burden of raising the child her filthy slut daughter couldn't be bothered with. This after raising her own children under less than ideal circumstances. She had no way of knowing TM would go on and make money - that was NOT her motivation in raising Jace, nor do I believe for a second she's looking for a Go Fund Me freebie. She'll get some assistance for taking in Endsley and I'm sure she socked away her TM money, unlike the teen moms who piss it away on houses, cars, trips, partying, drugs. Barb lives simply. I doubt she needs a Go Fund Me or any "easy cash jobs" though in my opinion she deserves both, along with my sympathy.

I wonder if some of the unnamed people that testified were members of Jenelle's MTV filming crew. I'd love it if, among other things, one them told the judge about the time Kaiser was screaming, sobbing and pleading for Jenelle or David to feed him. That was just one of many scenes that broke my heart 😢

The ONLY reason Jenelle is devastated is because Barb "won", Nathan "won". I'm glad the kids were the big winners with the judge's decision. Part of me wonders if Jenelle intentionally posted her dog's murder on social media knowing the outrage and CPS investigation that would ensue. Having the kids removed by the court would be a way to be rid of them while saving face when - in her mind - compared with her voluntarily giving up custody (which David would never stand for with Endsley) and as a bonus she gets to play the victim. She saw the handwriting on the wall in the last episode of this season, she knew MTV was going to dump her. Without MTV she has no use for the kids and David murdering her dog provided the perfect opportunity to be rid of them.

No mystery here. Vee kisses her ass and Javi's baby mama doesn't.

Unless there's a prenup, property acquired DURING THE MARRIAGE by either spouse is considered marital property to be divided up during a divorce according to whether the state you reside in is a Community Property state or an Equitable Distribution state. So yes, if Jenelle still has any of the MTV related money that she earned DURING her marriage to David he would be legally entitled to a portion of it regardless of whether she has it in a separate account in her name. I don't see it being an issue though since I'm sure they're blown every cent.

Thanks Scarlett45. Sheds some light on Jenelle's behavior, though it does not excuse it.

Does anyone know the backstory on Jenelle's dad? I know it was said Barb was a dv victim, was this Jenelle's dad? How old was Jenelle when Barb left him? Did Jenelle have visitation with him after the divorce? Is he still alive? I don't know if any of these questions have ever been addressed on the show or in interviews and I missed it or if this part of her background has never been discussed.

Jace can't be filmed without Jenelle's consent because she, unfortunately, still has parental rights and Jenelle will NEVER allow Barb to be on the show without her. She also has to consent to Jace filming with Nathan because both legal parents must agree to filming a child and she'll never allow that either.

Barb has NO say in Jace spending time at Jenelle's house, that was court ordered as Jenelle still has parental rights and as I recall Barb was very upset and crying on camera that the judge said she was REQUIRED to give Jenelle unsupervised visitation. Hopefully thst will change now and I think Barb has or is currently going back to court to keep Jace off The Land. Frankly, I don't gave a shit who Barb used as her source of information on Kai being abused. It was/is true and I'm glad Barb did whatever was necessary to try and get Kai away from J and David. Sometimes siblings are the source of info about a child being abused and any claims of such need investigation.

I question why this guy did cosmetic surgery for free in exchange for publicity. I don't know anyone who's thinking is, "I wanna look like a skank from Teen Mom! I'll book surgery with this doctor!"

Of course in Jenelle and David's mind the firing will be all Barb's fault. And Amber's. And Kail's. And all the "haters". I hope Barb gets armed security to protect her and Jace!! I wish they would have replaced Jenelle with Barb and Nathan. That would have been a major BURN to Jenelle and David, hahaha! Barb and Nathan getting all the fame and that fat paycheck. Sadly, I recall someone saying MTV isn't allowed to film Jace without Jenelle's permission because although Barb has custody Jenelle never signed away her parental rights. She'll never allow Barb to film without her and that sucks cuz I like Barb (and I love, love, her accent) and I'd like to continue seeing Jace and Kai.

I don't get why Kail is so pissed she had to pay back the child support she basically STOLE from Jo for 14 months! She'd be screaming for the money back herself if the tables were turned. Sooo Kail's uprooting Isaac and Linc, moving them away from their friends, school, sports teams, moving them farther away from their dads, so she can be closer to Chris to more easily stalk him. Got it. If he doesn't make the effort to see her now moving closer isn't going to change that. She's too dumb to realize distance isn't the issue. She was an easy lay who trapped him into a baby and now he only want to do the minimum necessary as a father and maybe, while he's in between fucks, tap her for another easy lay. As someone who has built both a production-builder home (big mistake!) and an actual "custom built" home I can tell you what Kail is building is a low quality production-builder home, the kind where you pick out a lot in a subdivision, pick out a house plan ONLY from the few the builder provides and maybe make a few changes and pick out your finishes from ONLY what choices the builder offers. She's trying to play like she's some big shot doing a "custom build" when the reality is she's building a production builder home, which are significantly lower quality. They may look nice on the outside but the construction standards are much lower quality than a true custom home and things fall apart fast. Guess that won't matter to Kail since she's only about outside appearances anyway. The guy who was at the lot with her and was referred to as a realtor was either a salesman for the production builder company or the realtor who gave her the lead to this particular production builder. When you do a true high end custom build the builder himself or perhaps one of his construction managers is the person who meets you at the lot and goes over timeline, etc, not a realtor. What a pathetic posuer, lol. If she weren't such an irresponsible slob she would, after being on this show for 10 yrs, have no need for a mortgage on a house. She should have enough money to pay cash.

Given that Jenelle hasn't left even though she KNOWS he abuses Jace and Kai and didn't leave immediately after the psychopath killed her dog this would be the best outcome for the kids, for David to take out both himself and Jenelle. If he only killed himself (or someone else kills him) Jenelle would just hook up with yet another abuser and continue to put her kids through hell. It's become obvious to me the only hope for those kids is if Jenelle is no longer a part of their lives even with David gone.

OMG, Brooklynista, I laughed SO hard at this!!!

Fiver- Here's Jersey Girl's post with more of the horrific details and a link.

I pray when Barb gets back from her cruise with Jace she immediately calls her lawyer - if she hasn't slready, assuming she's heard about this - and gets an emergency hearing with a judge to stop visitations with Jenelle. I'm sure Barb is sickened and absolutely terrified for Jace and Janelle. We all hate Jenelle and wish her nothing but the worst but she's Barb's baby and she still loves her no matter what. I can't imagine if my kid were in that situation.