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^^^^EXACTLY!^^^^ Ahhh, I didn't know that! Then why is Kail bitching about Briana posting it on social media? Wait, why am I even asking - because she's a shit stirring drama seeking bitch!

Because Bristol Palin is a known name, her mom was on a Presidential ticket as VP and her trashy ass has been in the tabloids, that's why. Briana had no media following as does Bristol or the original Teen Mom 2 girls. She's gotta EARN the big bucks, they're not just going to hand it to her. I think this is why she's acting the way she does, she's trying to "bring it" and create a buzz, get media coverage, develop a social media following so they'll pay her more. I hope backfired and they dump her.

When I saw the preview of someone with long dark hair losing their shit and being restrained by security I assumed it was Jenelle freaking out on Barb, lol. I hope we get to see Jenelle's reaction to fans yelling out to Barb that they love her. That had to REALLY piss off Jenelle. Briana went through the risks of surgery and all that pain for what? Her ass looks just as huge and deformed as it was pre-surgery and her thighs just as enormous. I loved when The Coven came to Miami post surgery and Brittany had no sympathy for Brianna's pain telling her it was her choice to keep cutting herself up. I think Mama DeJesus is upset about her daughters' violent behavior because she sees her meal ticket being cut off if they boot them off the show - which I hope they do. And I hope Javi is also fired. As vile as I find Kail I think Brianna is worse. As to the above poster's comment stating :"However, I am also uncomfortable with the one brown chick on the cast getting paid so much less" - It has nothing to do with her being "brown" and everything to do with her being a NEW CAST MEMBER. The others have put in 10 years and as such have received pay raises throughout the years. Most jobs don't pay the new employees the same salary as the long termers. Let's not assume racism where it doesn't exist. Since Chris isn't a member of the cast and not a public figure could he sue Briana for libel for posting publicly that he beats the shit out of Kail in front of her kids? That's a horrible, horrible accusation to make when you don't have proof. I hope he can and does. WTF is Kail doing to her face? Is she getting filler or is that just natural fat in her face? She looks completely different from when she started the show and not in a good way. Chelsea is so damn gorgeous! I don't blame her for refusing to be in the middle of that shit show being pregnant. If she worked a "real life" job she would also be within her rights to refuse to participate in any task that could endanger her pregnancy. Next season needs to be cut down to a cast of Barb and Jace, Joe, Vee and Isaac ( hopefully Kail will let Lincoln film with them for a paycheck) and Chelsea with her family. The rest of the bitches can go to hell.

Chelsea and Cole most likely want their kids to be close in age and are timing this next baby accordingly. These "girls" aren't young teens anymore, they are young women. I don't see an issue with Chelsea, who is in a good, stable marriage with a caring, responsible, employed man, expanding her family. She's mentally stable, responsible, a good mom, and has a support system of loving, normal family. Chelsea is how old? 26 or 27 when this is being filmed? That means she'll be 27 or 28 when the new baby is born. If she weren't a Teen Mom, but rather some random woman, no one would think twice about her and Cole having their second child at her age. Biologically she's at the perfect age for both her health and the health of the baby and a positive birth outcome. She DOES have the MTV cash so she CAN afford to expand her family. She hasn't wasted her MTV money on stupid crap like outrageous tattoos, expensive vacations with friends where she picks up the entire tab, drugs, alcohol, several trips to spa/rehab, designer clothes, failed businesses and numerous vehicles. She lives in a very modest house with cheap crappy furniture in a low cost of living state. Now the other cast members, yeah, I do have an issue with them having more kids because they're doing it, imo, for a storyline or because they're trying to trap a man (looking at you Kail), are a slut who is too lazy and stupid to use birth control (Briana), or are trying to cement a relationship with their Man Of The Moment. And the rest suck as parents.

I fear Jace has been psychologically damaged so severely he will never be what is considered emotionally "normal". He has been subjected to Jenelle and Barb's screaming matches from literally him birth. I clearly remember him as a baby sitting in his high chair with those two going at it and feeling so heartbroken for him. If he has ANY chance, any chance AT ALL, of becoming somewhat emotionally healthy he MUST be cut off from Jenelle completely and continue with intense therapy. Jenelle may be his birth mom but it's past the point of that mattering. As terrible as it is to lose a parent kids do get over it. What they don't get over is continual ongoing emotional abuse. Jenelle has proven time and again Jace is far from a priority for her. Her only interest in obtaining custody is because she sees him as a possession that Barb has "stolen" from her and she can't stand that Barb won. She also had David, and before him, Nathan, egging her on to get custody because both of them didn't like Barb and knew the way to cut her the deepest was to take away Jace. Jenelle is one sick fucking bitch. Just when I think it's not possible to hate her more she manages to up the ante. I know this is awful to say but I hope David does off her and himself so their children can live in peace and at least have a chance at a normal upbringing. I fast forwarded through a lot of Briana's scenes, as I usually do, but saw enough to know I was wrong about Roxanne possibly looking better if she put I some makeup. Nope. Still looked dirty and unattractive. Briana needs to attend etiquette classes to learn how to eat properly. Every scene where she's eating is gross. Really Briana? You have your guard up with men? Explain how you have 2 kids with men who don't give a fuck about you or them if you're so "guarded"? Nova's such a somber child, though she has reason to be. I wish there had been more scenes with Issac. He's my favorite of all the Teen Mom kids. He and Lincoln haven't been on much this season. I wish they'd fire Kail and just show Jo, Vee, and Issac instead. Hey Kail, being gay isn't a fashion choice you put on and take off to be in style or add drama. I don't believe for a minute she's gay or bi, she's pretending for attention, a storyline. Fast forwarded through a lot of Leah. I did rewind in slow motion the part where Gracie supposedly pushed Ali. She didn't. She was grabbing the book and Ali fell. IMO, Gracie gets blamed for a lot that's actually Ali's fault and Ali has learned to use her disability to manipulate her parents sometimes. I cannot stand Addie!! She is such an annoying pain in the ass. When she was grabbing onto the camera guy I bet he wanted so badly to swat her annoying ass off of him. Chelsea - the breath of fresh air amongst the stench. Was Aubrey making/coloring an ovulation chart? Did I hear that correctly? If so that's kinda weird to me. Seems like that should be personal business between Chelsea and Cole.

Wow, Jenelle and David make the Coven look almost civilized by comparison. Almost.

Could be the survivalist bunker where he'll hold Jenelle and the kids hostage and keep the FBI at bay for days. He'll stock it with tons of guns and ammo and those survivalist food kits

I loathe Briana, usually even more so than Kail, but tonight I LOVED how she was smiling and laughing at Kail when Kail was throwing her diva fits and the loved the way she was getting Kail even more worked up. Who the hell does Kail think she is??? SHE'S supposed to have a private room while the others are expected to share? SHE is supposed to dictate who is in the hair/makeup room at the same time as her? She was such a petty fucking bitch when she wouldn't let Javi use the room for what he said would just be a minute when she herself said she was going to be in there for a long while. Why not just let Javi go in and take care of whatever, then you can have it to yourself? Oh yeah, because you're a fucking bitch! It's not MTVs problem that you CHOSE not to vaccinate your baby, requiring him to have his own room. He shouldn't have been on an airplane or in a hotel if he's that delicate. It's not MTVs problem that you're such a bitch you have no family or trusted friends that could take care of your baby, avoiding the whole issue of him being at risk for illness. If she wasn't such a bitch Javi's mom probably would have babysat him or Vee would have babysat him (assuming she's not with Jo at the reunion). Why couldn't she leave him with Chris or Chris's mother or sisters, assuming he has family? Is she doing strictly breast feeding, no bottles, and couldn't leave him? Not understanding why a woman who has had 2 previous children would feel the need to have a nurse check on a baby that's been crying for an hour before she herself checked him out to see if it was a pain cry, a sick cry or just a fussy cry. Maybe she wouldn't be so paranoid about him being seriously ill if she had VACCINATED HIM! Unless I'm remembering it wrong, Leah did indeed word it to seem like Javi and Briana were staying in the same hotel room. I hate women (and men) like her who spread gossip, exaggerating the facts to make it more juicy, then when confronted try to act like the innocent victim. Leah did not tell Kail because of "loyalty", she did it to be relevant to a story line. On the off chance there was a grain of loyalty there her dumb ass better wise up and realize Kail has no loyalty to her and would throw her ass under the bus in a fat minute. Corey could not have sounded more disinterested in Leah phone conversation, lol. Gracie didn't look like she was having any fun At. All. Doesn't Leah realize it's normal for her to be tired because of the time change? Dimwit. I hate to say anything kind about Jenelle but she did look nice when she was talking to Briana outside. Loved that she was "going to drink all the shots!" so that Barb couldn't have any, lol. I mean, after all, SHE is the Teen Mom, hahaha! Not much to say about Chelsea since she wasn't on much except that she looked beautiful. Just when my dislike for Kail was greater than Briana the end of the show ruined it and put my hate for Briana back on top. I don't like the three-against-one shit The Coven pulled. Kail and Briana seemed like they were doing a good job hashing things out until the horrid Roxanne had to open her trashy ass mouth and stick her nose in, then Brittany had to join. After that Briana got all cocky and mouthy. I hate the way Brittany goes on with the tough talk. She better watch her ass cuz someday someone is gonna call her bluff. She strikes me as someone whose never been in a fight in her life, just talks shit and thinks she's a badass. Kail could kick any of their asses so they'd better watch their mouths. What is with Roxanne? Does the woman ever shower? She always looks dirty and smelly. Brittany cleaned up well and looked pretty at the party. Someone had posted awhile ago that she had beauty potential and she does. Her skin was gorgeous and she has a beautiful smile - though we rarely see it. I guess her bad attitude made me never realize she can actually be pretty. Briana's baby is beautiful. Sorry Kail, Briana wins there! I was disgusted to see Debra from Teen Mom at the party. For Christ sake woman, move the fuck on and get your own life!

THIS!! She behaves like guns are a toy, a prop that makes her badass. What scares me is I could see her and David leaving loaded guns lying around in reach of the kids or at least not properly secured, locked up where the kids can't access them even if they do keep them hidden. David probably feels the need to be armed at all times.

Target treats their employees every bit as bad as WM! Same crappy pay, same game where they purposely work as many people as possible just under the threshold to qualify for medical benefits, same crappy schedule and treatment. Most big box retailer operate this way now. WM just gets the bulk of the bad publicity because the retail worker union pushes their agenda. The union has been desperately trying to unionize them since the 90s because they are the largest employer outside the Federal govt and the unions are dying to get their hands on those union dues. There have been cases where Target employees who started talking union and dispersing union material we're fired, but of course Target claimed it was for bad job performance. I shop at WM because they both treat employees poorly but at least WM is cheaper. My husband worked at a place where as soon as someone gave notice his boss got would pissy and tell them to pack up and leave right then and there. When he got a better job he waited until the day before his new job started, went to work and asked the boss out for coffee, telling him he had something important to discuss privately. He then told him this was the last time he'd be seeing him as he was starting a new job the next day so wouldn't be working for him anymore. My husband got the biggest sense of satisfaction from that, beating the asshole to the punch ??

Jace was only on for a minute but just in that short time the fear and anxiety he feels being on The Land and forced to spend time with Jenelle was clearly evident. The way he blinks constantly and the twitches of his face speak volumes. I feel so bad for him and Kaiser!! I fear David is going to murder Barb. I'm not kidding. He'll kill her and bury her on The Land somewhere. He has such deep hatred for her and has brainwashed Jenelle into believing she's the root of all evil. Another scenario is David kills Jenelle and the kids, the commits suicide. This guy isn't just a harmless asshole like most of the Teen Mom cast he's a straight up violent psychotic!!! I think Jenelle, like many domestic abuse victims, is brainwashed and terrified to leave him. He's probably threatened to hunt down her, her kids, and her mom if she leaves. What parent pretends to punch a kid in the face as part of a game? What mother allows that?? I call bullshit on that story. IMO, even if a parent believes in the occasional light spanking a step parent should NEVER be allowed to put their hands on a child that's not theirs. EVER. ÀAnd what the hell is wrong with that producer bitch siding with Jenelle over Barb? I hope when David finally loses it she's a part of the carnage for enabling child abuse. Briana and her family are filthy, filthy trash. I hate every one of them. Why is she even on this show? Wasn't there a better choice for a cast member? They're even more low class than Kail and Leah. I fail to understand why it's Kail's business who Javi dates. Wasn't she screwing her new baby daddy even before she and Javi were divorced? Why the big mystery over the babies name? Did she really think viewers we're waiting with baited breath to hear her choice? Issac and Lincoln were named right away. Why the delay this time? To mind fuck the baby daddy who obviously doesn't give a damn about her or the baby or was it a bid for social media attention? The previews for the season showed Briana trying to act like a hard ass saying she was going to punch Kail in the mouth if she didn't show her "respect". Yeah, like her trashy whore ass deserves anything more than contempt. It was pointed out up thread that she was actually speaking to Kail's weirdo friend Bone. Good thing for her cuz Kail would beat her ass down in a fat minute. Lincoln just keeps getting cuter and Issac is still adorable but the new baby is homely looking. Leah didn't open her mouth spreading gossip because she's SUCH good friends with Kail, she did it to get screen time, remain relevant, and get in the middle if another cast members storyline. I wanted to reach into my tv screen and grab Addie and put her in her room in a timeout for the obnoxious way she was behaving while Leah was trying to talk to the producer. Discipline your little hillbillies!!

It's been driving me nuts for all the years I've been watching, trying to figure out who Chelsea's mom reminds me of. I finally figured it out. It's Dustin Hoffman in the movie Tootsie when he's dressed up as Dorothy.

It bugs the shit out of me when these Teens Moms call it "preschool". No. Call it what it really is, DAYCARE, because your lazy non-working ass can't be bothered to take care of your own kid. Preschool is the year or two before a child starts kindergarten and is half a day program where the kids are actually being taught. These all day programs when the kids are one, two, three, years old are DAYCARE but these moms use the word preschool because that makes it sound like it's for the good of the child. Nova looks a lot like Cate in that photo.

FairyDusted - I'm so sorry for what your family went through! That's absolutely heartbreaking!

It seems Mimi Jenn raised Ryan to believe the sun rise and set upon him and that he was so special he was immune from taking responsibility for any and all behavior and the consequences there of. This caused him to turn into an irresponsible adult. The reason I say Mimi Jenn and not Larry is because Jenn did the bulk of the children rearing and it seems she doesn't allow Larry to hold Ryan responsible so this isn't an "it's always the mother's fault" opinion because I don't believe it's always mom's fault. That said, Larry should have put his foot down and dealt with the fallout of crossing Jenn for the good of his son and his future. Regardlessly of the, imo, irresponsible upbringing Ryan had I don't think that in and of itself can be blamed for his drug problems. There are many kids who were coddled and spoiled as kids who don't grow up to be addicts. Addicts come from all kinds of backgrounds and upbringings, both strict and permissive. Do I think Jenn and Larry are enablers? Yes! But as the parent of a grown son my heart still breaks for them. I think the enabling stems from their fear of losing him, that if they push him he'll disappear from their lives and they won't be able to keep an eye on him and he'll become worse off than he already is. There's also an element of disbelief in what is happening. They haven't truly accepted the situation for what it is, they can't imagine their baby boy is a heroin addict, they imagine he's different from other addicts, not as bad off. They want SO BADLY to believe he's clean they believe him when he says he is. I look at my middle-class raised son and cannot imagine him becoming an addict. I'm sure Jenn and Larry felt the same, never imagined this was a possibility. I can't honestly say I wouldn't behave like Jenn in the same situation - the inability to accept reality part. I hope I'd be able to take a tough love, Intervention-type stance but I might, like Jenn, be in a state of disbelief and so badly want to believe he's better that I wouldn't see the reality. I'm so heartbroken for Jenn and Larry when I see the desperation in their eyes, especially Jenn's, that look of "Please, please don't let this be happening", the desperate grasping onto any tiny shred of hope that he's going to be okay. Ryan is an asshole but I hope for his parents' sake he doesn't die. It will KILL Jenn and Larry if he does, probably literally kill them from grief. They will be the ones most deeply affected by his death, more so than ever Bentley. There is no deeper pain than to lose a child.

Both parties need to take responsibility for birth control and STD protection. Ryan wasn't just a dumbass for assuming he wouldn't get Maci pregnant, he was also a dumbass for assuming she didn't have an STD from a previous encounter, even if she claimed she was a virgin. When my now adult son was a teenager I told him NEVER believe a girl if she says she's on birth control, ALWAYS use a condom, because girls can be big liars if they have a motive. And there's also the STD thing. My husband bought him condoms just in case our son was too embarrassed to buy them himself and we did tell him we would rather he wait until he was in a serious relationship to have sex but we knew that might be wishful thinking so better to be prepared. His freshman year college girlfriend tried to pull the pregnancy scare crap on him, saying she was late to see how he would react but refusing to take a pg test to end his worry and anxiety. After three weeks he told her take the test or he was breaking up with her. He bought a test and insisted she take it. No surprise she wasn't pregnant, just playing head games. He broke up with her anyway after seeing what a manipulative bitch she was. I totally believe teenagers get pregnant on purpose! Those who don't have future plans for college or a career see it as a way to trap a guy into supporting them, or worse yet, do it to get out of their parents' house an onto the government dole and receive Section 8 housing, food stamps, Medicaid, etc. Some do it to try and keep a boyfriend or feel it will "make them closer". The part of 16 and Pregnant that always made me think the show might help prevent teen pregnancy was the way the boyfriends reacted. Most were supportive in the beginning, but shortly after the baby was born they would gradually fade out of the picture and go back to their normal life of friends and parties while the girl was left with all the work and responsibility. Except for Jenelle, who did the same as the boyfriends and left Barb to care for poor Jace.

If I could I'd give this a million likes!!! It really disturbs me how much importance Farrah put on looks, on trying to be want she percieves MEN find attractive, and is passing this mindset down to Sofia. There's nothing wrong with wanting to look pretty and I don't think there's anything wrong with older women having face lifts, etc., if it not extreme, but Farrah is turning herself into a freak show. When she was younger she had a very nice body and the only two things I saw that could have used some improvement were her teeth and her nose. She got braces like million of teens do, and had a nose job. She should have ended it there. My fear for Sofia is that if she doesn't improve in the looks department Farrah will strong arm her into plastic surgery. She started waxing Sofia's eyebrows when she was what, three, four years old? And the makeup! Imo, inappropriate for a young child unless they're playing dress up, not for leaving the house, exception being a tiny amount of sheer lip gloss for a special occasion like being a flower girl. Farrah doesn't seem too interested in Sofia's education, which will better serve Sofia in the long run than rather than looking like a Man Toy blow up doll like her mother.

"International Sensation"??? Bwaaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! "International Story"??? Why? Because she vacationed in Europe?

I think the show definitely brought out and worsened whatever personality disorder Farrah has. I don't think Farrah would be the mega bitch she is without the show because in order to hold a job in the real world you cannot speak to the people you work with, let alone your bosses, the way she has on the show. She would have learned to control her impulses or sought help if it meant doing so or being unemployed. The money and "fame" made her feel she was special and better than others which in turn made her feel it was okay to treat them like crap. If she continues with her "adult entertainment" career she'd better rein in the bitchy and attitude because those she works with in that industry aren't going to put up with her crap anymore than an office job would. MTV did since, for awhile at least, her crazy brought rating, but even there she pushed it to the point she wasn't worth the trouble. I agree Farrah, and probably Tyler, wouldn't be content to sit around feeding off the taxpayers teat collecting food stamps and living in Section 8 housing because they have a dependent child like Amber, Cate and Maci would have been happy to do. I think had it not been for the show Tyler would have moved away, gotten away from Cate and his messed up family, found a job and maybe continued his schooling. He's an attention whore, to be sure, and a poseur, but he does seem to want better in life than what he grew up with. Cate seems she would be content with the living a shit life if the alternative was getting off her ass to do better. Cate wants Butch to keep his ass in Texas so she can have ALL of Tyler's attention. If he comes back and relapses Tyler will be spending time caring for him. If he doesn't relapse Cate will have to listen to Tyler talk of how proud he is of his dad and Tyler will be spending time with him getting to know the sober Butch. Lose/ lose situation for Cate.

It would be the so incredibly awesome to see either one of these strong, no nonsense women go after these lazy, whiney entitled bitches!

I loathe Farrah but I did like when she told Drew she wouldn't discuss her therapy. That wasn't a storyline on the show that I recall and therefore not his nor the audience's business.

I can't stand Ryan and loathe Mac even more but even so I was disgusted at the manipulation techniques Dr Drew and MJ Freeman we're trying to pull on Ryan to get him to sit on stage with Maci. MJF pretending to be concerned for Ryan with his "sometimes things can be resolved this way" or whatever bullshit he was slinging. His ONLY concern is ratings and putting on a shit show and an onstage blow up between Mac and Ryan vs Maci was his true motive, not concern for Ryan. I get that, that's his job. But Dr Drew?? Drew pulled the "Maci will be free to say whatever she wants and will be believed" card to try and convince Ryan to go onstage and give his side. You'd think after all these reunions I wouldn't expect better from Drew but I did. Pretty low for a psychiatrist, especially one who specializes in addiction, to try and gaslight an addict ( who I'm sure Drew KNEW was high) for ratings. Only reason Mac cares if Ryan stays alive is so she can stay on the show. If it ends she's gone and won't give a damn if he dies. I hope Ryan gets clean, says "What the fuck did I do? I married this bitch??" and divorces her ass. Cate looked pissed with her sucking a lemon face when Butch was talking about his suicidal thoughts. He was stealing her glory!!! Suicide is HER storyline and she doesn't want it stepped on! I hate her so much. Tyler is a douche but I think if he got away from Cate there's a chance he might actually do something with his life. I hope when this show ends he gets away from her and all the rest of the lifeblood suckers in his life. If he is indeed gay, as has been mentioned here several times, I hope he can find a caring man, be who he is, and find some happiness. I mean Christ Almighty, he had to hear that not just his wife but also his dad wanted to kill himself. Again, not a Tyler fan, and I realize a lot of his unhappiness is selfish imposed by staying with Cate and not living his own life, but I can't help feeling some compassion for him. And yeah, dude was definitely high on something, though it could be a legal medication side effect. Pissed me off when Drew called Cate a role model. Way to feed into her delusions of grandeur, Drew. Farrah is a fucked up mess, plain and simple. Sofia is aware of her "social interactions within the adult community" and she thinks this is fine and not harmful? That kid needs removed from her custody. She's been exposed to too many adult things to the point of it being emotional abuse. LOL at Farrah trying to align herself with lgbq community just because they have a prominent social media presence when she has used gay slurs in the past. Delusional when she says other made her out to be a terrible person. No Farrah, your entitled for no reason, nasty attitude and bitchy mouth and behavior did that all on it's own. Be the "adult woman" you made a point to tell Drew you are and at least own it.

I'm appalled that the deal breaker for Amber regarding Matt was his cheating on her. Not the physical abuse (alleged), not the mental/emotional abuse (alleged), but cheating. That was her line in the sand. I, too, like other posters have said, thought she looked thinner. Could it be she's actually follow the diabetic diet? Could that cause a woman who was overweight when she became pregnant to lose weight? I never realized Cate was so busty! Her boobs looked huge! Dr Drew pissed me off when he told Cate her leaving Nova to run off to the spa was "different" than her being abandoned by her parents. NO IT'S NOT!!! Nova isn't old enough to understand why Cate left, she only knows mommy is gone for a long, long time. Same feelings of abandonment. I don't understand why Cate is so traumatized by her dad moving when she was 12. Many kids from divorced homes have a father who lives in another state and they don't go off the deep end. While far from ideal, at that age she was old enough for him to send her a plane or train ticket to visit over Christmas holiday and summer vacation. He wasn't really doing anything helpful in regards to the situation with her alcoholic mother when he lived nearby anyway. Looks like next week we once again will be regaled with the tale of her near suicide (insert eye roll). I hope Dr Drew asks her why, if she felt she needed immediate help or she'd kill herself (as she has stated several times), she didn't go directly the the local ER for immediate treatment. How did she manage to keep herself together in the time necessary to line up a rehab that was willing to film and give her free treatment, make plane reservations, line up a babysitter, and pack a suitcase? Of course he won't! I think the producers instruct him not to upset or challenge "the talent". At least that's my hope, otherwise it's terrifyingly to think he actually used to treat patients. Ryan has no fucks to give. Not a one. He doesn't want to recover. It's too much work having to attend therapy and meetings. Mac makes me sick with her attitude that Ryan quitting the show to get clean is absolutely Out.Of.The.Question. I'm glad she felt screwed over with the way producers portrayed her shit show of a wedding. If it didn't happen they couldn't show it, honey. Maci was complaining it was cold in the back room where they were waiting to go on. Umm, maybe wear more clothes next time? When everyone else, including your husband, is wearing long sleeves, a sweater, or a sport coat I'd think sleeveless and halter back is probably not the way to go. I do hope she gets a chance to call out Ryan. Or better yet, Mac.

Ryan is so full of crap in this clip that even Dr Drew, who usually buys into the cast members' bullshit excuses, isn't buying it. A therapist won't take you on as a patient because you're on a TV show? Most of the entertainment industry is in some sort of therapy and they manage to find treatment. Dont bring in cameras and they'd be happy to help you. A real therapist, as opposed to the hacks we've seen on this and other shows, won't allow filming of an actual session for entertainment purposes. Second excuse: addicts are selfish, Ryan is selfish, being on Teen Mom is selfish so they don't want him as a patient. Umm, addiction counselors are aware addicts are selfish, hence part of the need for their services. The most sickening part is when Mac says with an incredulous voice and manner that the counselors expect him to quit his "job" in order to be in group counseling. Guess what bitch? If that's what it takes for Ryan to get clean you need to get off your trashy ass, get off the MTV gravy train, and get a JOB and support him while he's in recovery. That is if you give a shit about him at all and aren't just in it for the fame and money - which most suspect is the true reason you're with him. Ryan says it's all good since he had his mom, dad, and Mac to talk too. As if they're all trained therapists specializing in addiction (eye roll).

If April and Cait's dad (forgot his name) ever have to attend another family therapy session with Cait to once again be raked over the coals of their past parenting sins in order to enable Cait's "mental illness" excuse they should both look her dead in the eye and say, "What's the problem? You'll manage."