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Well, he is a multiple Emmy winner. I presume that still counts for something in the business.

My sentiments exactly. Silas is still on canvas, and Patrick is currently angling to get himself some of Sam's "benefits", so I don't see that she is alone. I don't get this either. Billy Miller is a major "get", RC should be doing chem tests with him with every suitable character on the canvas, who knows what might spark? I mean, he's doing just fine with BH, KeMo, and LW, but the possibility that he could show show some sizzling chemistry with someone else shouldn't be ignored.

I realize she is much hated in some parts, but, given her lineage, the near perfect person to read the Christmas story is Liz. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! NO MORE FUCKING GENERAL MOB-SPITTLE!!! Jaysus, is RC trying to drive people onto the barge? C'mon, Ron, you've got the perfect setup to get the mob shit out of GENERAL HOSPITAL - Johnnie takes over the whole schmeer, then gets written off the show, Sonny serves some time and then has to deal with being nothing more than a mildly competent coffee importer (should he decide to re-sign and stay on the show, which I sincerely hope he doesn't), Julian decides to go straight, Ava is scared straight due to wanting to be able to raise her infant daughter... Then all we have to act as villians and foils to the heroes is the LoD and the cops can get wins once in a while. It's good all the way around...

You forgot, "And bemoans the fact that he lost Sam's benefits". The two heroes of the day today were Silas and Dante. Silas for having enough brains to figure out that maybe talking the crazy woman down might result in no injured baby and for showing compassion to Nina, and Dante for showing compassion to Ava in letting her hold her baby before he slapped the cuffs on her. Compassion tempered by knowing what the right thing to do is and doing it. I like it. They should try that with more GH characters.

I took it as a jibe at Guza's (in)famous scene where Carly told young Michael that hitmen like Jason were just like soldiers and policemen. And if it was a jibe at that, I officially love it.

So, today's show.... ... ... ... The baby was cute...

From the Straight Dope column in Washington City Paper: Today's show was kind of boring.

Actually I'm glad Patrick is divorcing Robin (although really she should be divorcing him). The sooner she gets shut of the assmunch, the better. She looks more like Nina than Rosalie. Maybe she's coma baby?

The throughline here is that is how Patrick spins things to always present himself as righteous, blameless and justified. "Robin CHOSE to leave! She CHOSE to save Jason!... therefore I am righteous, blameless and completely justified in divorcing her". "Victor was keeping Robin silent through threats and coercion!... therefore I am righteous, blameless, and completely justified in keeping the fact that Jason was alive from you." It's all about Patty saying whatever is necessary to get what he wants. I swear, this show is giving me DID (with a hefty side dose of ADHD). I went from jumping up and down and cheering at Johnny taunting Sonny and Sonny getting the royal beatdown he so thoroughly deserves*, to snarling and raging at Douchelord Drake once again revealing the epic douchiness of his douchey self. Oh, yes, Patty, the REAL tragedy here is that YOU never got any "benefits" from Sam. DIAF already. The rest of the show was pretty good. * - Although what is it with Sonny sitting around acting like the biggest Sad Panda in Port Charles? Has Michael cast the Droopy Curse onto him?

What this guy doesn't realize is that, even if the word didn't exist back then, DYNASTY was probably the most hatewatched show of it's era. Which is why, when the fun of hatewatching wore off (shortly after the Moldavian "Massacre"), it's ratings fell off a cliff and never recovered.

Definitely a high point of the episode. Like someone upthread said, if we must be subjected to the shitastical Sonny Corinthos, let him be miserable and persecuted every single second he is on screen. Well, the man has priorities,you know... Patrick is a sociopathic liar who says whatever he thinks the person in front in him wants to hear at any given moment in order to get what he wants. (Which is generally into somebody's pants). He wants into Sam's pants right now, so of course now he says he's all about his "tender feelings" for Sam and how he wanted to protect her and spare her feelings and blah blah blah. With Sabrina he told her that he cared about her and wanted to have a family with her, then when her pregnancy became inconvenient for him suddenly the first little member of the family he so pined for [/sarcasm] became "that baby". Then when the poor little thing died, he knew it would score him points if he pretended to be grief-stricken, so that's what he did (while studiously ignoring the child's mother, you know the one he said he cared for so very, very deeply, as if). Up until the moment he stood in front of Faison and had to be prodded into making any reference to the son he was so terribly, terribly grief-stricken about.[Eyeroll] And when he finally does shed tears, it's not because he has discovered that he wife he pretended to love at one point was torn from his side and still is being held captive by maniacs, it's not because he finally knows the truth about his child's death - it's because he won't be getting into Sam's pants in a timely fashion! And this is the guy, along with Sonny Corinthos and Franco Baldwin, that this show expects us to accept as a romantic lead. Seriously.

I have long said that the perfect way to do a reboot on GH would be to have it turn out that everything we have seen since the night of the car accident that turned Jason Quartermaine into Jason Morgan was the visions Jason had whilst in a coma.

"I'm a douchebag!"

I suspect the ratings for Thanksgiving Week and this week will tell the tale on the popularity or unpopularity of Franco/Nina, since that is when they got a major amount of focus.

I didn't think GH could have gotten more awesome then Michael Without Pity and Sonny going to prison, but Faison dropping the bottom out of Lord of the Douche Drake's smug little world was awfully damn close. And of course, narcissistic asshole that he is, all Pattycakes can think about is that might lose access to Sam's pillows. [Mr. Bill]Ooooooooooh nooooooooo...[/Mr. Bill] I would have loved it if Sam had walked out the door of the holding cell and straight into some woman who's husband had been murdered by Jason, and got the exact same bullshit thrown back in her face. With a good hard slap across it for good measure.* Anders rocked it however with his open amusement at how the silly woman thought her hitman husband was worth a bucket of warm spit. * - I normally like Sam, but this Jasus Was the Awesomest bullshit can DIAF. Emma is needed for the all-important kiddy quad*. Therefore, there will be some contrived stupid reason cooked up why Patrick will get full custody of the daughter he affectionately* knows as "Um, what was her name again?" * - I mean that as sarcastically as humanly possible. I don't think any pairing where Patrick is involved is viable. He's just too narcissistic and selfish to realistically care about anybody besides himself. Anytime Sonny is down, miserable, and kicked around is a good episode for me. Keep it up, Ron, this is one part of GH I am absolutely loving! That is JT's patented "DUH..." face, which he pulls instead of actually trying to, you know, act. He did the same thing when Robin walked in on his wedding to Sabrina. ROBIN: "Yes, Patrick, it is I... not dead, but alive!!!" PATRICK: "DUH...." FAISON: "It wasn't me, but Victor Cassadine who caused the crash. You know, the LOGICAL SUSPECT..." PATRICK: "DUH...." And also, protip to Mr. Thompson, if you want the audience to believe your character is not a selfish prick who gives no fucks about the agonizing death of his helpless newborn child, you might want to try to deliver the lines about said death in a tone that isn't, "Oh, yeah. That."

As far as Patrick is concerned, Faison never did anything bad to him, just to Robin, and we all know that what happens to Robin is of no concern to Patrick. Fixed your spelling for ya.

The Downfall of Sonny Corinthos continues to drive ratings upward!

This whole Fluke thing is starting to remind of a classic episode of THE MUPPET SHOW where Beaker is involved with an accident with a copy machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frw5Kec1E6Y Seriously, I keep picturing an episode where every single cast member right down to Piph shows up in a Fluke mask.

I don't think Guza had anything against Robert (other than his usual agenda of tearing down any character that wasn't in the mob or a mob worshiper), but boy oh boy did he hate the character of A.J. I remember back when the AOL boards were a thing (giving away my age here), people were openly speculating that A.J. reminded Guza of someone from high school that had stolen his prom date or something, the hatred was just that intense. And it's obvious that Guza pretty much despised the character of Robin also.

It's nice to see at least one fanbase getting pandered to, especially one that had to fight tooth and nail to get their couple any airtime whatsoever. I think it's the Sword of Damocles that sooner or later they will have to face the consequences of their actions that gives their pairing an extra bit of poignancy.

I think that, since Alacazar was a character that originated on GH, he can be used. Tomas just can't be mentioned. Brad Maule was quoted in SOW as saying that Guza had told him that he would be tearing the character of Tony down... but Guza also solemnly promised him he would build him back up again. According to Maule (and what we can all see came to pass), Guza delivered on the tearing down part but broke his promise on the building back up.

In real life, it is unbelievably hard for someone who has been convicted of murder to get out of prison, so I guess GH is being realistic in that respect.

According to interview with Billy Warlock I read some years back, Guza had originally written it as A.J. throwing Carly down the stairs. But Warlock, who usually was the good soldier who played what he was given to the best of his ability, for once dug in his heels and flalty refused to do the scenes, and got someone high up at ABC to put the kibosh on that version. So instead the scenes were filmed as Carly tripping over her own feet and falling. Later, however, Guza, ever the asshole, just had everyone on the show refer to "that time A.J. threw Carly down the stairs" as if that was what really happened.

That scene alone made the entire show worthwhile. As some have said, who knows how long it will last, but I am enjoying it while we have it. Sabrina having a wrenching miscarriage and watching her child die was, in Patrick's narcissistic mind, just another way for him to be let down. "Ooooooh, Sabreens was SUCH a DOWNER keeping vigil by her baby's side and THAT BITCH Robin wouldn't come when I told her to... Why can't I ever find a woman who is worthy of me?" You forgot option #3 - "He knows and doesn't care, because It's All About Him". Once JT figured out that he could tank whatever scenes he felt like with impunity, trying to get him to do his job became a near impossibility. So I can see where his scene mates are forced to resort to all sorts of contrivances to try to get something, anything out of him. Taking my answer to the Backstage thread.

Jason Morgan gets killed... and the ratings go up. Sonny Quartermaine goes down... and the ratings go up. There's a lesson here for the showrunners of GH, if they are bright enough to figure it out.