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To be the only one of the entire main and supporting cast not nominated must have been so disappointing for him. It took him a day to get his congratulations Insta post up, which makes me wonder if he was too hurt to say anything the day of the noms. Glad Witrock slipped in there. I could see him pulling out a win. In light of Fern's snub, Ricky Martin's nomination really stings. He was easily the weakest and least featured of the cast.

The thing that bugs me the most about this show is that, if Liza truly were 27 or so, she'd be a hard 27. That nobody, especially Diana, would suspect something was amiss undermines everything. In the first couple of seasons it was kinda believable but now it's just like that Steve Buscemi hello fellow kids gif. They have to out Liza's secret soon because it's getting nearly impossible to believe people around her don't suspect. I also wish they'd address the fact that Charles and the Ridley guy are men in their mid-forties dating/into a woman in her mid twenties. Obviously there's nothing improper about it, but I have a few guy friends who do that and I now avoid them.

I may be wrong, but I think the rumor is Foster cheated on Borle with Bobby Canavale. This. The whole time I couldn't figure out why anybody would be writing a story about Empirical/Liza for Vanity Freaking Fair. This whoLe episode was so cobbled together and stuff with crazy mishaps. And I swear to god I'll chop all my fingers off if they try and pair Liza and Josh up again. And - good lord - could they either find Liza a man she isn't professionally involved with or at least address her horrible judgement and bottomless need for male attention/approval. Oh, and please fix Duff's foundation/makeup while you're at it. It's all cakey and the color is off. Darren Starr gets so much hype but, man, are his shows cyclical and repetitive.

But is she being backstabby and anti-feminist? This is another topical issue that doesn't get aired out enough. what is anti-feminist about Cleo's approach? She doesn't take things to a personal level when she disagrees with Jacqueline. I'm a vocal feminist and support the body positivity movement, but I can't get behind the healthy at any size idea because, science. Does that make me less of a feminist?

i would really like to see them explore the idea that a woman can disagree or even dislike another woman and her reasons are valid and not rooted in jealousy. i would also like them to delve into the Healthy At Any Size issue, as it is such a polarizing conversation, especially in feminist circles. Richard can go. Hi. You're, like, 40 and dating a woman 12-15 years your junior. At work, no less. You're a gross cliche. Byeeeeeee!

They definitely seemed to be chemistry-testing those two, which wouldn't be a bad pairing. Absolutely. From the stories out there, it appears he's a mean son of a bitch when he drinks. I don't think he's changed from the days when he assaulted that pledge in college. He's still the same guy, which makes me sympathize for Westfield . She must have endured some serious emotional abuse from Hamm.

The Big Secret is what killed Suits for me. Season after season they used it as a springboard for a story line. It's lazy writing. Speaking of...Younger writers have blatantly recycled plot points and characters from Sex and The City. Didn't Kelsey ask Liza to help remove her diaphragm in an early episode? They don't even try to pretend this show isn't SATC for millenials. I've never bought Foster as anything but 40+. Hopefully once TBS is out the make-up crew can stop spackling Sutton's face with founDation and under eye brightener.

I really want to believe the writers knew what they were doing by having Zane make a piggish comment about Kelsey's skirt in an episode about #metoo. Unfortunately, I don't think they did. Zane is a creep and they're trying to make him into some sexy anti-hero. Nope. Dude's a poster boy for sexual harassment.

I wish they'd made Pauline a little less apologetic for leaving Charles. I'm sure there are a lot of women in stale marriages who would love to leave but are too afraid of what people would think of them. I go to a gym on the UES and there are a ton of UES mommies who hang out there after classes and do nothing but bitch. They all seem so frazzled and stressed. I think the gym is their sanctuary. Dear god, please don't return to the Josh storyline. The show was so much better without it. It was always ridiculous that Josh took dating a 40 year old woman so seriously and vice versa. Zane sucks. I'm glad they diversified the cast ever so slightly, but the character is just completely unnecessary.

I get the feeling that the Katrina season is never going to happen. It was supposed to be the second season and they bumped it for Versace. Katrina - while tragic and is essentially about the racism behind why FEMA & Bush didn't step in fast enough - just isn't salacious enough to make it compelling. My guess is they'll bump it again and make season 3 Clinton/Lewinsky. I'm totally here for it, as they can address how sexism played a major role in why Clinton basically got a wrist slap and Lewinsky was driven into hiding.

Having gone through a very nasty probate case that involved a very large estate/properties, one thing I learned was that once that person is dead, very few people care what the deceased would have wanted. That's when all the bitterness and resentment and dysfunction really comes out. Grudges bubble to the surface. Donatella knew what Gianni would have wanted and she didn't care. My gut says she learned Gianni didn't leave her controlling interest and decided to screw Antonio over. In fact, at the time of his death, I'm pretty sure Gianni and Donatella were somewhat estranged. As for the killing spree, it seems that the only true intended victim of all of this was Jeff Trail. Trail was exposing all his lies. Because of the blood spatter found on the door frame (which meant the door to the apartment was open), we know Andrew blitz attacked Trail as soon as he entered, which meant he lured Trail there with the intention of killing him. The rest were just collateral damage as Andrew tried to escape. I simply don't believe Andrew had some life-long obsession with Versace and that's why he killed him. I think by that point, Andrew was in full psychotic break mode.

Agreed. I felt they could have focused more on the incompetance involved with the case and how homophobia contributed to that. That whole scene with Ronnie was written strictly to tell viewers that homophobia played an integral part in the story. Show, don't tell. Other than the interview scene between Will Chase and Ricky Martin , we really didn't see instances of societal homophobia. The internalized homophobia was covered and then some. Wish they hadn't glossed over the fact that at the time of his death, Gianni and Donatella were somewhat at odds, enough for him to leave controlling interest of the company to his 14 yr old niece.

The woman moderating is a casual acquaintance. When I saw her posting about this on Instagram I squeed and insisted she tell Cody Fern I would riot if he wasn't nominated for an Emmy. That was a For Your Consideration panel. Shows go and talk themselves and each other up in the hopes of getting nominated. I had no idea they were such circle jerks. ("Let me tell you why the costume designer deserves an Emmy. She had this little game she played where...") Guess it's safe to assume they plan on submitting the whole main cast, plus Max Greenfield, Cody Fern, and Judith Light. I honestly think only Darren Criss and Cody Fern will be nominated, with Cody being the one most likely to win. They're not going to sweep the way the OJ cast did. The season was too all over the place.

They're trying way too hard to humanize Andrew. That's the biggest problem I have with last night's episode. Something tells me Andrew was petulant and bratty even as a child, but we didn't see that. We saw some poor confused boy who cried when he found out he was accepted to a private school because it meant his father would bear down on him even more. Sorry, but I don't buy this idea that Andrew didn't love the overwhelming adulation he received as a child. I think it goes deeper than his parents spoiled him. I think he developed a personality disorder very young and his parents behavior exacerbated it.

The benefit of telling the story backwards is that everybody knows how the story ends and will therefore be less invested as the series progresses. The other benefit is that telling the story backward is typically how these situations unfold. The crime occurs and then the investigation travels backwards to learn what lead up to the crime. When David and Andrew were at the diner and they spoke about their night at the Mandarin Hotel, I wanted to see that scene. It made me anticipate a future episode. It's important to remember that Versace's murder was not and never should have been the main focus of this case. Getting his death out of the way, I think, was meant to clear the path for the stories of the other victims.

This episode really lost me. The parallel (if you can call it that) between AC and GV is now really contrived. They're trying really hard to make it out like Andrew had a lifelong obsession with Versace when there's never been any proof that's the case. And speaking of completely manufactured storylines, WTF was this episode even? Sexual abuse? Was there ever any proof or whisper of that or is it conjecture? That's some pretty bold liberties they took with that suggestion. It's obvious now they didn't have enough meat for this season and Versace is involved strictly to fill in the gaps. Meh, this series simply isn't interesting when the focus is solely on Andrew. It's his relationships that made this season compelling, not him. I just feel like they're trying to make this deeper than it is. He was a narcissist who snapped because of his abandonment issues. Pretty boring on its face.

I feel like every episode has contained something that shined a light on the fact that - even approaching the millenium - gay people were still unsure of whether or not they could come out completely. The episodes with David and Jeff were really the ones to expand on societal and internalized homophobia. In other episodes there were passing moments that addressed it but nothing that jumped out at me. Then again, I identify as straight. I'm not going to have the visceral reaction that someone who identifies as gay might have, so the scenes will come off more subtle to me. I do feel like they dropped the ball as far as pointing out how homophobia interfered with the case. I mean, to this day, Lee Miglan's family still refuses to admit he was gay. Did they ever prove AC and LM knew each other?

I think what people missed most about this series was Jack and Karen. It's Will and Grace that drag this show down. The writing is so stale.

Not at all, That's actually Murphy's explanation of the series. It's not about the actual crime. The crime is a symptom of something deeper and that's what the series explores.

The Versace parts are interesting, but his murder is not the over-arching crime of this season, just the like murder of Nicole and Ron wasn't the over-arching crime of last season. The "crime" of this season is homophobia, just like last year's "crime" was racism. That's why the series is called American Crime Story. The crime committed that serves as the springboard for the season is symptomatic of a deeper issue. Of course Reese's murder matters, but his murder was incidental in that he was killed for his car. He had no relationship with AC. He got lumped in with the other three and ignored because this was considered a "gay" crime.

The real story is that 3 gay men were brutally murdered and nobody cared. Because of that indifference egregious mistakes were made and as a result a famous fashion designer was killed. Versace in no way drives this story. That's what we've been led to believe and is the over-arching "crime" on which this season is based.

Every time I tune in I feel second-hand embarrassment. It's like the characters were frozen in time, thawed, then given stale dialogue peppered with current pop culture references. The only episode I enjoyed so far was Will's foray into the world of dating younger men. I appreciated the lecture he gave the younger gay man about the struggles that paved the way for him to have 2 coming out parties. I guess what really bothers me is that everything is EXACTLY the same. Will is still uptight; Grace is still self-absorbed, etc. If I knew people in real life who - after ten years - never evolved beyond their blindspots and limitation, I'd feel pity for them and avoid their calls. This show is just a bunch of recycled scripts and characters. There's nothing fresh about it. As for this particular episode, ugh to J-lo promoting that dreadful Shades of Blue. W & G started going down hill with all the stunt casting so I really don't want to see more of it this time around. The highlight was Will with the two teen-agers. (Oh look, now they're recycling Will's boyfriend. Riveting. ) The baby shower storyline was predictable. If they are going to recycle characters and storylines, you'd think Will and Grace would have brought up that time they tried to have a baby together. I mean, it did damage their friendship and Will kicked her out, after all.

Yes, in episode 4 (House By The Lake).

I rewatched the shower scene from last night's episode. (For research,okay???) Anyone else notice how David is in the corner of the shower, hands hanging by his side, sort of cornered by Andrew? It's very odd blocking. I truly think Andrew fell in love with David's pureness. He was surrounded by phonies and rich people he felt like he had to impress. With David he could just be himself.. Not that he was, of course, but I think Andrew felt like David was someone for whom he could drop the facade. Holding tight to my theory Andrew only killed Madson because David tried to leave him and escape. Hello, abandonment issues.

I see your point, but I think people are smart enough to understand the concept of creative license. I also think most people don't care about a logo or fabricated newspaper. If the show can't get permission to use a brand name or logo, they have to get creative. I can't tell you how many times I've watched documentaries about The Preppy Murder and seen the various locations used in place of the real Dorian's Red Hand, which is a couple blocks from my apartment. I don't get worked up about it because, I don't know, I don't feel a need to prove to everybody that I live in Manhattan.