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Thanks, Jeeves! I wanted to go update my original post with the new info, but for some reason I'm not getting the edit button. Does anyone know if it goes away after a post has been live for a certain amount of time?

The recent People Magazine Investigates episode "Held Captive" was quite a story. I'm glad the victim has managed to get married and hopefully have a reasonably normal life, given the ordeal she went through. And good for her for cutting off her father given his attitude about her captivity. I can understand him finding it hard to believe that she didn't leave her captor for all those years, when it seemed like she had the opportunity. But she was 14 when she ran off, and her captor completely brainwashed her. That is obvious, given that she finally came clean to the owner of that diner where she worked...if she was just staying with the captor purely because she wanted to, then she never would have had anything to come clean about. And it was only over that series of years when she got close to the diner owner and his family, that she began to feel safe enough to start confiding in him. And good for him for going to the police. It's too bad the father couldn't find a way to say something to her like, "I struggle with understanding it, and I may never understand it, but that is my limitation, and is not a reflection of you or my love and support of you." Instead, he actually said to the camera something mocking how his daughter blames everyone else. Yes, she ran off voluntarily, but again, she was 14. And given the attitude of his that came through in his interviews, I can imagine it was hellish living with him and her step-mother, especially given that he uprooted her from a nice, comfortable situation, to go live in much more of a sh*t hole, after knowing the woman for only 6 months. And sorry, but I hope the police are permanently scarred from not having gone back to that perp's house at the start, when they came at night and he said he didn't want them to search the house because his elderly parents were asleep...so they simply never came back!

And on the flip side...I've been watching the new Cold Case Files: DNA Speaks (thanks to SoMuchTV for mentioning it!), and a recent episode said that with the advent of genetic genealogy, they are finding more and more people who committed a horrible crime once, and then never did anything again, or before. They said it has really turned investigating on its head because the standard police assumption is that someone who did something that horrible must have done smaller criminal activity before.

Yep. If she had truly been undecided, then checking out her own reaction to her family's more negative reaction to Dotun, would have absolutely helped her realize what her decision was. Yeah, it was frustrating. Like, girl, you can prefer whoever you prefer, but it doesn't mean your family has to as well! I wondered if it wasn't more than that. Clearly the producers know who she's going to pick, since the loser always goes first. I almost wonder if Joey somehow let Charity know that he wanted to be able to say his piece regardless of whether he was going to be chosen or not. To go all conspiracy theory for a sec, I'm not saying he knew she was going to choose Dotun, but if he had any doubt that he would be chosen, then going through with the proposal is a good way to have the heartbroken-suitor angle for being the next Bachelor. The thing the sister said that struck me, was she said Dotun was "VERY intentional". And I think that intensity, combined with the less playfulness and naturalness, made her see them as the less desirable pairing. The other interesting thing, was that someone (I think it was mom) said Dotun was familiar in terms of they type Charity has fallen for in the past, and then she went on to describe almost a confident playa type of guy that definitely was not Dotun. I wonder if the family just really read him wrong. Even the mom's comment at ATFR about how she feels now about Dotun, did not seem like much of a glowing endorsement. But wasn't part of the reason for that, because she was all in her head after the date with Joey, and not because of any actual lack of naturalness with Dotun? I actually thought she didn't cry much this season...am I forgetting something? I found what he said in the car kind of odd, with his comments about just wanting to be with someone and asking the universe when it will be his turn. It was almost like he is looking for someTHING rather than someONE, and that whoever the actual person is, doesn't matter that much.

From watching True Crime Network's "Finally Caught", and seeing lots of the 'classic' murders we've seen on countless other franchises, I was moved to compile a list of the most commonly-portrayed murders. There's a few at the bottom that I can't recall details about, so I hope you all can help fill in what I'm missing...and of course, feel free to add any that I've left off! Narcy Novack killing her hotel-heir son Ben Novack and later found to have also killed her mother-in-law Bernice Generosa Ammon and her handyman lover Daniel Pelosi killed her husband Ted Pam Hupp...where would I even begin to describe her? Nanette Packard with ex-NFL player Eric Naposki killied Bill McLaughlin Dalia Dippolito's failed murder of her husband Mike Murder of saintly-oh-wait-not-so-saintly Paige Birgfeld Celeste Beard and lesbian-maybe-lover Tracey Tarlton murder of Celeste's husband Steve Police officer Steve Rios killing gay college student Jesse Valencia Vince and Margaret Sherry killed by his law partner Pete Halat (and all about the Dixie Mafia, with the gay Lonely Hearts scam from prison) Eddie Makdessi killed navy man Quincy Brown then double-crosses and killed his navy wife Elise after their staged killing of Quincy as part of sexual assault scam Murder of Reyna Marroquin, better known as the long-dead pregnant woman in the barrel. Anne Stout (Freak of Ark email), who killed her husband and tried to frame the woman (Barbara Miller) he re-connected with at a class reunion and had a brief affair with Martha Freeman had her lover Raphael Rocha-Perez living in a closet of her house, and he killed her husband when he's discovered snoring Brenda Andrew had her lover James Pavatt kill her husband Rob, then Pavatt hid out living in the attic of the Andrew's next-door neighbors for awhile Mark Unger killed Florence Unger at the lakeside cabin resort they went to every year, by pushing her off a deck and making it look like the rotted railing had given way and she accidentally fell Rebecca Sears had her son murder the next-door neighbor Laverne Kay Parsons, so Rebecca could be with Laverne's husband (and they had staged a burglary at Rebecca's house along with a staged shooting of Rebecca at work) Stacy Castor killed her husband David with "anti-free" Angelina Rodriguez killed her husband Frank with oleander and anti-freeze George Trepal killed neighbor Peggy Carr with thallium in Coke bottles, and as part of solving the crime, Special Agent Susan Goreck went undercover to a “Mensa Murder Weekend” hosted by Trepal and his wife a mother is found hanging off the staircase in the foyer of the house and the father had gotten the teen-age kids to help? takes place at Ft. Bragg, and a woman has her military husband killed when they stop at her office for her to pick something up on their way home from dinner? a woman (middle-aged mother?) makes up a person named Chris who is supposedly (ex)military and is advising them to do certain things a very pretty young woman with dark hair (and an exotic first name) is seen on multiple videos coming home drunk, and her father talks to the potential perp in a van? a creepy looking husband (pale, longish nose) with a german name (?) and maybe he's a professor, keeps saying he's innocent of his wife's murder but finally confesses and takes police to where the body is?

I really liked the season, but they aren't very good at making us care about the other characters in Mickey's life and at the office. It's like whatever they show us with that is just an interruption, like all the stuff with his mom, and even the birthday party Hayley threw him. Maybe they're trying to flesh out Mickey's character more, by showing us bits and pieces of why he is the way he is, or more about how he is...or maybe they're just trying to come up with some (interesting) sub-plots, but whatever the reason, it didn't work. I would add Cisco's subplot with the motorcycle gang and even the Cisco/Lorna marriage. I did kinda like the Izzy subplot, but it's a little different because it has been an ongoing character development thing.

Going with the "Chekhov's Gun" principle, there are two things that received air time but nothing ever came to fruition with them: That juror that hedged the truth about having any family connection to a developer Lorna's theory about Lisa maybe being the one who had Mickey beat up outside his car There was no reason for those things to be mentioned in terms of moving the story forward, so I wonder if something about those will come back around in the future. An odd thing about Manny is that he was standing on a platform, which made him taller, but no one said anything about that.

Why did that next witness guy for the defense (restaurant worker?) give the photographer/inspector such a side eye when he ran past him in the courthouse hallway?

I just watched ID's A Body in the Basement, episode "Missing Means Murder". It was a case I'd seen before, but there's two things that didn't make sense: According to the episode, the only way they found out about a connection between the suspect (Darryl Kuehl) and the victim (Paul Gruber), is that Paul had showed a friend a video he had taken of his property, which included a quick focus on someone and Paul said "that's my caretaker", which turned out to be Darryl. Yet Paul was apparently very close to his adult daughter Shellie, and I find it inconceivable that she would not have known that her father had a caretaker and who it was. At the end, in the explanation about how the murder occurred, they said that Darryl had taken advantage of Paul because Paul travelled a lot and he'd be gone for weeks at a time. Yet the way they said the murder occurred, is that Darryl was doing something he shouldn't have in Paul's house, and Paul walked in on him, so Darryl killed him. This makes no sense because if Paul was gone as often as they said, then Darryl could have waited to do whatever he wanted when Paul wasn't there. They made it seem like a crime of opportunity, but I don't buy that.

This is frightening me! The producers knew what they were doing when they let him have the floor, so on one hand it seems like they were letting him "audition". But on the other hand, they have to know how disliked he is both for what he did/said, and for how his affect is just so flat. I just have to hope that they gave him the "audition" time because there wasn't much else to fill the show with!

And unfortunately they have absolutely no chemistry. It was very weird how they ended that shot with them on the couch...it looked like they were going to go in for a passionate kiss, but instead she ended up with her head on his shoulder.

Good point...and I had completely forgotten about the beating up by the end of the episode, so it didn't even do whatever it was intended to do!

Quoting myself from last year because for the second time that I've seen, someone saw something and it actually was a mannequin! It was on the show Finally Caught on True Crime network, in the "Gouldin" episode. Someone had been leaving mutilated mannequins in the woods monthly for a year, and there were also some murders. The murders became linked with the mannequins, being called The Mannequin Murders, because they were around the same time and in the same greater geographic area, even though there was nothing to say they were related. Eventually, they solved the murders, but nothing ever was solved about who had done the mannequins thing.

So is what actually happened regarding Aaron coming back, that when the producers saw Charity let Xavier go, they decided that having two men left with two roses isn't much by the way or drama or suspense, so they contacted Aaron last minute to have him come back? Cause from the previews, he's wearing a suit and looking very rose ceremony-ish.

Way to go, Investigation Discovery (/sf/). I watch on replay, and as usual, the little picture icon for the episodes of the new show "A Body in the Basement" show a scene from the episode. But unlike ALL the other ID shows with the whodunit format, this stupid show has the picture icon showing the guilty perp! So as soon as we encounter that person/people during the show, we already know who's guilty. Thanks for ruining the suspense, ID.

The problem to me was more with how he said it, than just the specific words he said. If he had said something along the lines of how he wants to know more about the Charity that he may not have experienced yet because of the cameras, that would be different. But instead, his "I need to see more" was his elaboration about the conditions under which he will be able to commit to being faithful (he can only commit to being faithful once he's sure he's committing to being married). And the abruptness of it, along with the tone of his voice and the look on his face, were far from kind, conversational, and nurturing. Instead, everything about what he said and how he said it was demanding (and almost entitled), which is the opposite of how Charity has been so tolerant, explanatory, and seeking of information. OMG that scene of him at the front desk asking about Charity was so very lame and completely unneeded. It's also insulting to the audience's intelligence, to think that we are either so stupid or so naive as to not understand that he didn't just choose to fly there on his own, paying for the cameraman out of his own pocket!

I don't see it that way. Considering that they will not be seeing each other for awhile, yet important decisions are being made now, I thought that it was maybe indicative of a not-so-good relationship dynamic that both parties chose to avoid the potentially difficult conversation and just soldier on. It was just so odd that her concern about what Joey's uncle said in terms of whether Joey was being genuine, led to her to question whether the other guys were being genuine, and she gave their families the chance to address that, yet she didn't even give Joey the chance to address it, and he's the one that the concern was actually raised about!

To me the problem isn't so much that Joel didn't tell Sam about his time with Brad, as that he lied when she asked him about his day. He made too many qualifying statements that were lies or disturbingly lie-adjacent. It would be different to me if she had asked him about his day, and he had just said something about how her day had been enough for the both of them so let's discuss my day some other time, or this is a day about supporting you so we can discuss me later (or some similar remark to dismiss or end the subject), and then no more was said about his day. But that is not at all what happened. It can be too easy to fool yourself into thinking that you are withholding something from someone to spare their feelings, when really it's that you don't want to have deal with their reaction. It also takes away their agency, to decide for someone about what they can or cannot handle. And if you're worried that they can't handle the original news, how on earth will it be better for them when you end up telling them the original news, and they find out that you lied, and they hear your explanation about why you chose to lie rather than telling them the truth originally? And how about if they find out the original truth from someone else besides you? Now it's just compounding the awfulness. And if Sam was worried about the effect of bringing someone else in, then the lying would have confirmed to her that she was right to be wary/reticent/unresponsive to it...see, when someone else comes in, bad changes start to happen.

This is why I found it so uncharacteristic that they were laughing openly at Brad during the recital. Sam, of all people, knows about what it takes to sing in front of people. And he was singing with a lot of passion, just like she does. I would have expected far more empathy. But as I said before, I think the writers maybe went a little overboard so they have it be a (supposedly) more humorous contrast to whatever they end up writing for Brad and Joel.

I didn't like it, and it was surprising to me, because she was a new person not so recently, and I would have thought she'd have more empathy. This is so funny to me, because during this episode I was thinking that Fred is too good to be true...he is always kind, considerate, caring, compassionate, personable, etc, all the time. With his fiancee, I didn't see her as any different from anyone else on their best behavior around new people. He has known her a very long time, so I'm hoping that means he has seen the real her. OMG I was a tween when I first saw Blazing Saddles and honestly I have never laughed as hard and as long as when I saw the campfire scene. I'm not a big poop humor person, but that one got to me! It seemed sooooo uncharacteristic of them and was really mean and hurtful. I can only guess the writers thought they had to do that plotwise, to set up a contrast with whatever they may be planning with that guy and Joel (I don't know any spoilers, just hypothesizing).

Glad the show is back but my only major complaint from last season has been magnified, which is the one-dimensional way they have been writing the mom. Last season she was unpleasant and in rehab. We never saw even any brief hints of whatever positive traits attracted the dad way back when they first met, nor any flashbacks of a possibly happier mom earlier with the family. Now that she has had the stroke, that would seem to be an even more appropriate time to have some flashbacks, so we can see some other aspects of her personality. We've been able to see different facets of all the major characters, which to me makes it more glaring that we haven't seen that from her.

Loved the show! Definitely too under the radar for its quality. The only thing that didn't ring true for me at all was the portrayal of the mom. Everyone we've seen has been multi-faceted (except maybe for the intentionally awful Charity). But we have never seen the kind, sweet, loving side of the mom, not even in flashbacks, but that is presumably something that existed once upon a time when the dad fell in love with her and maybe early with the family.

I still think that's what's going to happen, and that he called Jeff to come make a video of his last words. But maybe Jeff ends up killing him first?

I checked and the dad said all of it. He said, "Do you want to have a wife? Do you want to have a family? Do you want to provide for them? Do you want to give them all the advantages that you've had?" Then he talked about all the things Luke takes for granted, like "the house, the car, the boat, the vacations. You're not gonna have that life on a military salary." But if he got rejected from Branson for that, it would seem that the Coast Guard Academy would be even more likely to reject him too, given that their Honor Code is something that they probably take seriously even for someone who isn't there yet, in terms of whether they would want that kind of person in their community. I've been saying from the start that I think it's Jeff, and the ending of this episode has made me think it even more...although why would he have paged Jeff? Maybe he wanted Jeff to video something that he was going to say? I'm confused by mention of "Luke's POV". This season hasn't given us any indication that anything is being shown from anyone's particular POV, right? I wish it were, because then there would be an explanation for Isabella's maniacally amped up possessive behavior.

I actually like all 3 in their roles. I enjoy Luke/Griffin's acting more as the season progresses, which is about the only thing I am enjoying more as the season progresses.