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The original idea for Super GIRL was just that; she was a super GIRL (a teenager). The progression to who or whatever SuperWOMAN would be never truly got off the ground since Supergirl was never really settled until CBS 2015. There she is melded into one. Which I think is a great idea in one sense, and I agree with the sentiment on the other side of the issue that she should have been SuperWOMAN. More than likely CBS simply went for what the public is most familiar with.

I thought Kara and Winn had real chemistry. I was really pulling for them (by pulling I mean pitching the Producers who ignored me).

Agreed. Ill conceived.

Yes, I suspect the same thing about the Karamel ship. The damage was already done and now to try to revert back will prove to be a disaster. He would certainly look like a yutz. Not that she didn't with James. {deep sigh} If I recall, the 13M viewers to 6M was pretty much the fall off after the pilot. The curious wanted a peek. Interesting the pilot was the one that won me over. Tried to pitch the idea of a cameo Perry White episode starring, ahem, Harrison Ford. Could you imagine the clashing of swords between Perry and Cat?

Here's the thing; mostly males watch super hero shows. And IMHO females tend to lose interest sooner. If I recall, the 13M viewers to 6M was pretty much the fall off after the pilot. The curious wanted a peek. Interesting the pilot was the one that won me over. Yes, I suspect the same thing about the Karamel ship. The damage was already done and now to try to revert back will prove to be a disaster. He would certainly look like a yutz. Not that she didn't with James. {deep sigh}

The CW originally rejected Supergirl. And a year after CBS ran with it anyway, the show was dropped in the laps of the CW. This, IMHO, because whoever believed in her enough to go against the odds and to sink that kind of cash into the show just couldn't put the cancellation knife to her. I suspect Les Moonves, but that is only a guess. Unfortunately, since it was originally rejected (by Mark Pedowitz), there had to have been at least some resentment. I can hear the gripe now... "Told 'em it would be a money pit. Season one proved I was right. Now that shove it down my throat. The Cw doesn't have CBS's kind of money." So what CBS did was like Prince Charming sending Cinderella back to the wicked step-mother's house, hoping for the best. From a purely business POV CW president Pedowitz had to reinvent the show to get better ratings or to change the show enough to sandbag it and get it off his much smaller budget as quickly as possible. Either way it means doing away with the magic that was season one by tampering with it, forgetting the established taboos (like not casting the Superman role). Tyler Hoechlin did a marvelous job portraying the man of steel. But it was clear in season one that this is HER story and she did not want his help. Her inner circle of family and friends got pushed back into the background. To the point in season three that Kara said "I never had friends." to her new friends Lena and Sam (the world killer). Winn and James (in unison) "Gee, thanks a lot, Kara." Guess all that talk about needing their friendship meant nothing. It was just talk. You say, whoa that's taking things a bit too literal. This is just a TV show. Yes. It is. But, these goof ups take away from the title role's character. Like the way she broke things off with James. Flighty, flaky at best... only wanting want another woman has at worst... he threw Lucy aside for her. And almost the moment she did... Kara "didn't know anymore." Our hero. This brings up another point, in season one Supergirl was a hero for everyone. Guys cheered her on and were not threatened by her at all. Seasons two and three make the show out to be a girls only club. And Supergirl had to beat down Superman (the old mind set; put someone else down to feel superior or better). Why not the scenario we'll never know who is stronger? The need to put one over the other exposes a deep seeded resentment for the opposite gender. Why not everyone be equal? They brought in Mon-El and people hated it. They took him out and married him off and people hated it. They did a going home episode and the new, younger actors upstaged the older. Even when the episodes are good they alienate more and more fans. Little kids can't watch as freely as they once did. Mon-El and Eve Teschmacher in the supply room was way racier than Winn and Siobhan (same scene one season earlier). Major missteps... ratings continue to go down. Lord knows I've tried to get the powers that be to consider rebooting to the season one format,

[PERSONAL OPINION SPOILER] I believe Supergirl TV is coasting along on the momentum from season one's HUGE explosive impact on the scene. As others have well said DC Comics never really knew what to do with the character. Season one (CBS 2015-2016) made the character 'real.' If there really were a super girl this is more than likely what she would be like. It gives a down-to-earth feel to what lore and myth have blown way out of proportion. For example, Brandon Routh's Superman hefting a small continent sized island of Kryptonite laced rock... PUH-LEEZ! Or Supergirl with her super stuffed toys come to life (horse, cat, monkey, duck etc.) And the 1984 box office bomb. 'nuff said. If it wasn't for hearing the news about the $70M price tag, I would have never given the show a try. But I did and was so blown away I became a fan for life. Even through the less-than-season-one successive seasons. My point is Supergirl TV would have a vastly greater number of fans if it was marketed more aggressively. Aggressively enough to get people past their indifference for the character from all the previous versions of Supergirl.

Better Angels. Hoped for better follow up seasons. So far disappointed.

THIS is the face she should portray when instead she hams it up too much doing this face...

Saw Benoist on Kimmel (aired mid January 2018). If only that personality came across in her Supergirl portrayal. It DID in season 1, but hasn't been seen since. Ratings fell off drastically switching from CBS to the CW. Then they have been in a relatively steady decline since. This 9 hiatus only two episodes after coming off the winter hiatus is a BAD idea. People all too easily fall out of a habit. #RatingsPlummet

Thought Berman and Braga are geniuses. Still do. Give the Orville a try and see.

I also suggested a 1/2 Kryptonian on the show... before season 2... only it was one of the cast. In season 2 I added a twin to the suggestion.

LOL Well the winter premier was a dud. All the "help"the Legion gave Supergirl was a couple hover moves and a plasma blast or two. The whole arc is boring. And I want it to get better / succeed. {sigh} ← I do that a lot since season 1.

Definitely a photo shop job. Lighting on head doesn't line up with shoulders etc. This is an altered Tyler Hoechlin Super suit with color replacement and an altered glyph. Observe:

Um, I might have been unclear. Sam is the third wheel (in Kara's inner circle) since Maggie left putting Alex back into that circle. This is why Sam is a heavy (Big Bad) and has to die. I see Alex maybe adopting the 1/2 Kryptonian Ruby to raise her. Possibly an exit for her from the show. Didn't think of that until your post. Even if that never happens, without the controversial love between Alex and Maggie, Chyler's part has to get smaller. Maybe not into the background like you said, but smaller nevertheless..