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Yeah. And then one of them can't bother to show up for the Skype. And Jesse even DRESSED UP! She is trying to push this all by herself, and I am embarrassed for her. She is a great sucking hole of desperation. Did you see a rash? I didn't. And isn't a rash pretty much normal in that climate anyway? The "rash" is a plot device to make us think Chris gave Abby a disease. And Abby, just for the record, yes you do have to choose between your old boyfriend and your new one. Why is that news to you?

And who was that "host?" She looked like an Egyptian mummy pulled from a tomb in the desert and covered in a frilly dress. And her interviewing skills are zip zilch nada. Any competent host could have gotten Jorge (real name unspecified) to open up. We needed Andy Cohen, or Nev. I hope they aren't paying her much.

Well that was a huge time suck. George: "Ask her what she's doing. I won't tell you." Anfisa: "I'm not doing anything." Lather, rinse, repeat. I guess she's become a Mormon? Taken up knitting? Become one of those terrifying knitting Mormons? I think we all know what Anfisa is doing.

With kids in the car, seatbelts not on, and - in the case of several of them, and Leah is a prime culprit - without even one hand on the wheel. They should refuse to film under those circumstances.

I'm sure you're right.

Maybe. I think it's important to differentiate between the simple use of a particular word and actual verbal abuse. Verbal abuse is never acceptable. I do think it is a bit precious to get upset about the mere use of this one word, though. Even to the extent of paying a fine, as was suggested??? Surely adults can use whatever language they choose in their own homes. It's just a word. And no, kids are not allowed to use it, just like they aren't allowed to drive or use the stove.

The words they use are the least of their problems.

I think Mohammed isn't very emotionally expressive, and/or he's trying to be reserved on camera. I don't read anything into that. His actions are what I pay attention to.

That would be a nightmare, but none of these girls has had to do that. They all have the TM money, and most of them - all except Kail? - have a family support network. And Kail had Jo, who was always involved, even when she was horrible to him.

I sure didn't mean, or say, that Abby was a "slut."

Exactly. How very sick this is. It is control through fear. It's a psychological protection racket. I really am losing any compassion for Jeff, and I'm seeing the healty (or healthier) people in his orbit refuse to tolerate it. Only the unhealthy people will allow his behavior. Look at Megan, who has so few boundries she announces both in public and to a client that her daughter had her first period. Any thought at all for the daughter's feelings? Nope. Gage knows he can never share his true feelings with Jeff, because he would be out the door. What kind of relationship is that? Why does Jenni hang around? While the boys were whining about their surrogate not being willing to be induced, poor Jenni was in the position of being pregnant for the umpeenth time with the last viable embryo. Yes, she was actually carrying an actual baby inside her own body, hoping she didn't miscarry at each moment, but that mattered so much less to Jeff, Gage, and the producers than whether the Undynamic Duo were going to be present for the birth of their baby. Why is Jenni still there? Doesn't she have a perfect life as a mother and Mrs. Doctor, where theoretically she isn't being snapped at and forced to live in chaos every minute? Zoila is just a potato. I have no idea who she is, after all these years. Maybe she is no one, and that's why Jeff likes her.

He can't or he'll be gone, and he knows it. No one can even be normally assertive around Jeff without becoming toast. No one can have their own needs, emotions, or any kind of boundaries around Jeff. Jeff makes the PC efforts to show he's in therapy, but any therapist who challenged him - which would be his only hope of crawling out of his own ass - would be fired immediately. We constantly see everyone around Jeff stifling their responses because they know what would happen if they said wht they think and feel. The only people Jeff keeps around are the people who will do that. I am afraid for this child. She is already pissing Jeff off by being inconvenient and having her own agenda. And I fear for Gage, because he is already not being allowed to care for the child the way he needs to, and the way this baby needs to be cared for. This is not good.

BTDT. Your child is screaming in pain, you try to get help, and somehow it's YOUR fault? I'm sorry you went through it, too. Doctors suck.

And bulldogs are house trained.

You're right. Anyone who cares about their teenage daughter should be horrified at the situation, because it puts the poor girl under so much stress and will have a major impact on her future.

And people talk about Loren's twitches. . . .actually, Loren talks about Loren's twitches. It occurs to me that, unlike so many people, Danielle actually has way too much self-esteem. She clearly does not see the person we see when she looks in the mirror.

Good point. Jeff thrives on chaos on every level. Not such a good thing for a kid to be around.

Thanks. Good to know. I'm sure he can be a licensed physician and yet have toxic relationship skills.

Exactly. And the way Gage kind of laughed it off made me very sad for him. This relationship has no future without major changes.

Technically she is correct. She also needs a semi-plausible reason why her husband didn't want to touch her again.

I see this is an unpopular opinion to have, but I agree. I loved seeing Danielle and Mo and Jorge and Anfisa called out for their fraud. I don't think any of them was defrauding anyone but each other, if they were. At one point they wanted to be together, for whatever reason. We cannot know those reasons or what really happened. As far as Loren speaking out, she had a right to state her opinion, but she was a shrill baboon while doing it. Her body language, tone and volume were confrontational. IMO she was the only one making herself look bad, as usual with her. There are so many other way she could have stated her position - mature, calm, reasonable ways. She chose to present herself as a Mean Girl.

Good gosh, yes! And then sharing it with a client! Does anyone have boundaries on this show? (Other than Heather, who is about to be dumped for her assertiveness.) Megan should have said "I have an urgent family situation" and then left. But of course Jeff would have needled her until he found out what it was and then belittled her for thinking it was more important than work. I am NOT liking Jeff at all.

I think we're about to find out, unfortunately.

I find Heather refreshing. This is her house and her money. She is telling Jeff what she will and will not have in a healthy, assertive way. Jeff can't stand it.

Would have to be extreme genital closeup in order to verify, and now I'm going to go throw up.