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Loving this episode but confused about what happened with Caleb. He says “I thought you knew”——?? What did he mean? What did I miss?

I loved this documentary and have re- watched it three or four times already. Didn’t know Rupert Holmes had suffered such tragedy. I remembered that he wrote “Echo Valley 2-6809”, which is probably my favorite PF song ever, but I had forgotten that he also wrote the Jets’ “You’ve Got It All”. Had to laugh at the posters who said this doc is basically an extended “Time-Life AM Gold” commercial, b/c I love those and used to get such joy out of watching them too! Before I got rid of cable, I had one of them saved on my DVR. had tragedy

Jan was being awful, but honestly, not much worse than most teenage girls at certain points especially when they have a boyfriend that parents don’t like. Yes, she was brainwashed, and this was an exaggerated situation- But, having raised teenage girls, I can tell you… This wasn’t that far off the mark. Hormones….they turn teenage girls into monsters at times! I was horrible to my own parents at that age, too. (It does get better, though,)

This one was particularly heartbreaking. But I’m a little confused… It looks like Tony did return after a week as promised so why was Jeffrey pissed off at him? He didn’t seem to have an emotional attachment to many of the others he killed so I’m just curious as to what happened with this one.

I feel guilty watching this, having just read the interview w/Conrad's Mom in "People"--the series is just renewing all the trauma for her and the family. But having read extensively about the case and watched the HBO documentary, I am just morbidly curious. Having two teenage daughters, both of whom have struggled with anxiety and depression, is making it difficult to watch for my own reasons, but I'm fascinated. Anyone out there watching?

First two episodes weren’t doing much for me, but I love Amy Schumer so I hung in there with it and I’m glad. It gets a lot funnier around episode three, y’all.

The girl who sang lead on that ballad they performed at the showcase, though (I guess it's called "I Wish I Didn't Love You"?) really COULD sing (as Tami said). I wonder if she made it in the music business w/another group? Anyone know?

Yeah, each time we hear of Rachel and Sean having yet ANOTHER kid, I flash back to that conversation! Would be interested to see what her tattoo and her "navel sticker" look like now, after 9 kids...though, then again she and her asshole GOP husband can surely afford cosmetic surgery.

OK, yes, Matt was the worst in many ways, but I can't believe no one here is hating on Kaia. She was irritating and performative on EVERY level. Walking around topless b/c "I'm comfortable with my body!" etc.; toward the end, suddenly, out of the blue, deciding she was hot for Matt of all people? WHAT?! Perhaps it was just editing, but to me it seemed that she decided she "wanted" Matt just b/c he was so obsessed w/Sara, Ruthie's sister. And did y'all notice that she (Kaia) was apparently stuffing her bra (?!) or else had had a boob job that no one talked about right during those final two episodes? Best/worst line: From Matt (when pontificating about how torn up he was over Ruthie and her drinking): "There are tears of pain in my gut, and they're jumping out of my eyes." (or something--I need to see if these are still on YT, b/c I haven't watched this season since it aired in '99!) Second best/worst line: From Kaia's poem (about Matt) at that talent night: "A green, terry-cloth shirt, brightening the room again, and again, and again..." OH YEAH--and Kaia snarking on naked Ruthie doing a back flip into the pool on that final episode with, "How can she just exploit her body like that?" and then a fake shudder. She, of the topless beach stroll in Episode 1! Shut up, Kaia.

I'd actually be surprised if Rachel the camera whore DIDN'T appear. I hated her ass back then and I hate her even more now. It's like her eventual friendship with Pedro meant NOTHING to her. She's reprehensible.

I remember crying watching the kids sob and say goodbye to the "volunteers", and then again when Kameelah, crying, hugged Montana goodbye at the airport. Just the way she said, "Bye, Montana" killed me...they hated each other at that time! I loved when Sean kissed Syrus on top of his bald head (can't deal with Sean and his bimbo wife now, but back then he seemed to have potential...)

Tee hee! Not sure, but though I couldn't stand Glen back in '93, I'm digging his snark now. I also loved him (or was it Jon?) reminding Dave (HA!) , "You used to call Dominic 'Dominique' all the time!" That always annoyed the beJesus out of me.

Sad, but true on Beth S. I have always noticed, on the "blanket incident" episode, that after Tami locks herself in the bathroom and Beth is talking to her through the door, Beth looks at the camera for a second while saying "I'm gonna bring you something to put on, Tami. Hold on."

That's the ultimate challenge though, right? I'm an MSW but still sometimes feel clueless as to best help my daughters w/their mental health issues without hovering or trying to make everything in their world perfect--which I already know isn't possible.

YES! (And I am sorry to hear you are struggling with depression and anxiety, too.) I am still learning how best to proceed when my daughter appears to be struggling...am learning to just secure a promise from her that she won't self-harm, then to back off and let her know I am here if she wants/needs to talk, letting her come to me when she is ready. I too had read many accounts of trans adults recounting how they became suicidal when they hit puberty and their "assigned at birth" gender became undeniable. So who can blame Greg and Jeannette, who had plenty of resources and $$ and are very liberal, for trying to stay ahead of it for Jazz?