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I forgot to mention this earlier, but what are these department heads' qualifications? Initially, I thought they were all 'just' surgeons but after watching all 4 eps in one go, I realized they were all supposed to be the department heads. But wasn't the cardio guy a resident in the pilot, when he got fired along with the rest of his department? And he's the one hiring attendings? It was my understanding that department heads are (at the very least) attendings with usually quite a few years of experience as attendings, but this guy seems to have gone from resident to department head hiring other attendings? And don't he, the ED doc and Oncology/PR doc look a bit young for department heads? And why don't we see any other attendings/residents/interns working under them, aside from the trio of new cardio attendings and Tall Guy or whatever he was called. The guy stealing the onco chair was a nurse, I thought.

I interpreted this as a lesson to viewers not to be idiots when going to see a doctor and try describing the pain/condition/whatever you have properly instead of just saying "dizzy". And it's not like the doctor was wasting time (maybe a bed but they managed in the end, didn't they?) with his occasional check in, it was the patient who was wasting her time and being an idiot.

Yeah, Teddy most likely wanted a professional, competent and experienced doctor to treat her/prescribe the meds and not risk getting an intern/resident who couldn't keep their mouth shut about her presence/pregnancy... Oops. Actually, she asked for "the head of cardio", it's the intern who got Maggie and neither Maggie nor Teddy clarified she wanted a cardiologist, not a cardop-thoracic surgeon when Maggie arrived. But let's not forget, in the world of Grey's, there are only surgical departments (and psych & dermatology paradise) in the hospital and the hospital itself is being run by the chief of surgery.

I wondered why Maddie didn't step in considering she's a nurse. Then figured maybe she felt like she shouldn't, but that's an odd thing because aren't medical personnel honor bound (or whatever it's called) to act in an emergency if they can? And then at the next stop, she does step in to help out so now I'm even more confused. Guess they really wanted that racist dude to have diarrhea of the mouth and then lose consciousness (I think?) before they'd step in. Which raises another question: are medical staff/first responders allowed to treat patients who've lost consciousness when they refused treatment by them while conscious? Could the guy sue, despite them having saved his life?

I've always had trouble buying the Jo being abused/battered woman storyline, considering what she did to Pecwell or whatever the guy with the allegedly impressive pecs was called. TPTB really should just steer away from physical abuse storylines because they cannot handle them properly.

It would be one thing to "overlook" it from a regular surgeon if they're really talented or something, but you'd think they would hold the head of a department to a higher standard (this goes for all of them, not just Maggie). And while Maggie or Jackson is always the first to list off why she's so fabulous and/or accomplished at her age, we rarely see her actually do impressive surgeries these days. None of them, really. I get that they're now all supposed to be these great surgeons so nothing is too difficult for them to overcome and there won't be as many dire situations in the OR as in previous seasons when they were still interns, but a few seasons back we at least had Meredith getting a reputation for her "winning streak" (I think it was 22 surgeries in a row or something?) and way before then we had accomplished surgeons like Webber and the other attendings worry about the standing/rating of the hospital but none of that happens anymore. The last impressive thing was probably Meredith's abdomen transplant? And that didn't really seem all that impressive. I rarely see any teaching either, despite someone reminding someone else about it being a teaching hospital every other episode. Can you imagine their/the hospital's reputations in the medical community?

And if he filed a complaint/pressed charges then those are false too. I've always been puzzled by Baker's presence/role. Why would an actual detective serve as the PC's secretary? That's just a waste. I like her best when she gets to do actual police work like in the previous episode, so like maybe one episode per season...

You forget the part where either Owen's confronting Teddy or Amelia confronting Teddy will cause Teddy to go into premature labor and it's all drama and through the contractions and blood loss and more drama and tears and yelling they make up, then some other complication will occur and Teddy dies in/shortly after childbirth and Owen and Amelia will raise the baby together. Possibly naming it Theo (although that sounds a lot like Leo) or Teddy...

We can only hope.

Maybe the hospital employee also found the boy obnoxious and would rather not have him around. Clearly Maggie or Meredith will now tell Owen and/or Amelia or manipulate the situation in another way for Owen to find out about Teddy's pregnancy. Hopefully, he'll then go confront Teddy who'll know it was Maggie who blabbed and she'll report Maggie to the medical board (or whatever?) and her license gets revoked and Maggie is fired! No, like someone else mentioned up thread, Meredith conveniently didn't mention her own name. She just said "Oh you must be..." (I'm not even sure she said his name) and they deduced the other was their intended blind date. And like I mentioned previously, it is odd that John didn't know anything about NotMeredith because otherwise he would have commented on something Meredith mentioned (like her work, lifestyle, etc) about how whoever set them up had told him differently about her. Or maybe he's just a douche who didn't listen/read the info he was given about his date?

What an absolute bore fest! Is it a prerequisite for every main character to "make a connection" with a child at one point during their job at the hospital? That was the worst (child)patient ever and while I don't watch the other show, I hope he died in that drain. I was actually kinda assuming/hoping a car or ambulance would hit him as they watched him run off. Anyway, Maggie with that child or the father was nothing special and just absolutely boring. Maggie and blabbing about Teddy was even worse. The firefighter should count himself lucky that she didn't accept his invitation for dinner because if he expected a cool, self-assured, independent woman who cares for/empathizes with children then he'd be in for a rude awakening. How was Meredith's makeup that much different from normal? She looked fine but not stunning in this episode or hideous in others. I guess I could have bought maybe one of the newbies (an intern maybe) being surprised at her scrubbing up nicely/putting in more effort in her appearance than usual, but it was what, 3 people being stunned and her friends all guessing she had something special due to her appearance? Please. As for the date, I actually kinda liked the guy as someone she could date (not love of her life material though) about halfway through the date. Too bad about the kids thing. I liked Alex and the college boy, but that was very predictable. Don't know why Webber was so shocked by it? Does he not know Alex at all? Don't care about Jo (and like someone else said, her relationship with Alex made him less appealing to me as well), Link or their connection. Isn't Amelia the teen brat's foster parent? Or guardian? What is this "I don't know what my role is"-stuff? Clearly, she's got no business fostering or raising children. Owen also sucked in this episode, but then he usually does in my opinion. Nice to see Owen's mom again, but not a big fan of her giving Amelia advice. Amelia should just give up on the foster/parenting/mentoring thing because she's clearly not cut out for it and should actually be disqualified by CPS. Has the actress who plays Owen's mom lost quite a bit of weight since her last appearance? She looked a lot smaller but not in an unhealthy way, unless they put a three inch layer of makeup on her face to compensate because she looked nice. I don't care about Deluca at all, I would even prefer Carina if she was given some proper material over him. However, was her reaction to his "have you heard from papa?" and "You're a great sister" one that indicated history repeating itself and "papa" is already dead but she wants him to have a chance to say goodbye like the story he told about her and his mother? I also thought that was odd until they realized they were meeting up with the wrong person. It's very likely all four weren't set up by CeCe, just Meredith and OtherJohn, and that John and NotMeredith were set up by someone else/dating site. It is odd how he apparently knew absolutely nothing about her (or NotMeredith, since he never mentioned anything about contradictions) so probably a blind date through friends or another matchmaker and not via dating app.

Ah, thought it was something more specific than a mere application. Thanks.

It's about time Jamie got a promotion. However, did he not give his whatever (slot, permission, certificate, eligibility, I don't recall what it was called) to Eddie so she could take the exam when Frank wanted Jamie to do it? So how come they were both able to take the exam now?

And it seems that is what Bailey wants it to be used for as well as she didn't intend for it to be used as an OR but for treatment... so why did the chief of surgery buy it? Talk about mismanaging a budget, geez. Let oncology or any of the other departments that want to/could use it pull together and make a shared purchase.

On the upside, Reznick at least admitted she was wrong in the end. I'm not sure if she was genuinely trying to be helpful or trying to play him, but it wouldn't surprise me if she thought she was being genuine and simply lacks the actual (life) experience to be able to give good advice. Does she even have friends? Has she ever had a friend? With the way she holds herself, I wouldn't be surprised if she's seriously lacking in the friends and romance department and is simply projecting onto Shaun without realizing it. The traffic court bit was kinda meh, but it actually works for Lim as a charcter in my opinion. She is a rebel and everything from her arrogance, one night stand to typical surgeon behavior in this episode confirms what we saw of her in last week's episode: she thinks she knows best, is always right and her opinion is the only one that really matters, which is why she had no trouble going against the patient's decision last week by going ahead with the reconstruction and lying about consent.

I thought it was rather odd for the social worker to ask the patient/her client about the surgery in front of the girl's abusers/parents. Like she would ever go against them when she snuck off to the hospital for a surgery in secret! Also disappointed in Lim for going ahead with the surgery despite the girl saying no. Deep down she probably wanted it, but she still did not give consent. If Lim really had the girl's best interest at heart (and not feel like she was the only one capable of making the right decision), then she could have pointed out how the girl's parents would never even have to know about her changing her mind during their private conversation. That way the girl could have made a truly informed decision. Enjoyed all the different thoughts on Leah and Shaun's relationship/reactions in the thread. ETA: While I agree with the comments about Leah's unreasonable expectation that Shaun can just have lunch with her while he's working, I have to be fair to her and say they do it in pretty much every other TV show! In TV land lots of things, like dropping by unannounced at someone's place of work, seems very normal and acceptable.

I figured Blink opened a portal underneath Lauren and she fell through and landed somewhere safely. There's no way Lauren could have fallen all the way down or dampened somewhere along the way and just disappeared in the second(s?) it took Andy to look over the side.

I still don't understand how that guy fell through the escalator. If it was just a loose plate then why did no one else fall through it? Did no one use the escalator between the maintenance the night before and him getting on it? That just makes no sense. And while I'm on the topic, what did he actually die of? He'd barely lost any blood and they didn't mention any other injuries that could have caused a heart attack and/or his bp suddenly skyrocketing.

Technically, Stevie wasn't an intern back then yet... ;)

Someone pleased remind me of Stevie's great accomplishments during her internship at the White House? Did she included her little tea corner? Because I don't think Russel liked it very much....

That doesn't apply to Webber though, who just goes around telling everyone the teacher was inebriated...

Well, first thing he can do to get more flexibility in the budget for the other 89 days in the quarter, is to sell/return Bailey's stupid hypobaric chamber.

It's been on many (medical) shows, it was the first thing I thought off. Maybe these doctors need to watch more TV. You know they say how ex-smokers are the worst [when it comes to smoking]? Well, I don't have any personal experience with alcoholics but damn, Webber just got on my nerves so much here - he sounded not only hypocritical but seemed to be almost gleeful about getting to rub this man's mistakes in his face and telling him he had to take personal responsibility just like Webber himself had done in the past. Again, I'd love this pairing. Their backgrounds make them suitable. Who knows, maybe CeCe will have some brain issue in the next episode or two and then Koracik has to treat her and she hounds him and then snaps her fingers and hooks him and Meredith up with each other. But if they want to give Meredith a "rebound" before this happens, they could always hook her up with some hot but nice and sensitive guy who works at her kids' daycare/school, which would fit her pattern since she tends to only date/sleep with people from the hospital, bar or her pet's vet. Nah, it's all Bailey Alex. Except when they hire Minnick for half a season to do some HR stuff or make half the cast the board when it suits them and then forget about it all.

To be fair to Alex, Roy walked out of the OR despite practically being ordered to stay by the chief of surgery. He just walked out. After more or less killing a patient. The second in less than a week. While he's on probation for killing another patient, IIRC. So, yeah, he got that coming and if he wants to hide out in the locker room instead of talking to his boss, doing his actual job and taking some damn responsibility for his actions, then I'm good with Alex firing him in the locker room. Maybe it'll keep the other interns on their toes as well. I absolutely hate how this show inserts research into everything! Now, I know Cristina was an MD and had a PhD and therefore had experience in doing research and was qualified to do so. However, as far as I'm aware, none of the other characters on the show have such credentials or experiences. Yet pretty much every surgeon who isn't an intern got to do that whole research thing last season (despite having such heavy workloads simply doing surgery on normal days) and now Jo gets a research fellowship (like wtf?) and Bailey can't even be bothered working with Jo on the research they planned to do. And it's not like Bailey was too busy because all she did was check on Alex, whom she should have actually shown the ropes for a few days like everyone else already said. Anyway, I hate how this show thinks all these doctors are qualified to do research and know exactly what they need to do and have brilliant ideas that change the future of medicine. Um, hello, there are actually people who do that for a living and who have been educated and trained in doing such research. You surgeons are not those people. GTFO.

If she does make an appearance, perhaps Maggie could do more than just say "hi" and wave to the kid. Such an odd reaction to your partner's child... Very weird.