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I hated how Chandler behaved in that two-part episode where he's wanting to propose to Monica. He's acting incredibly out of character, and don't even get me started on how badly Matthew Perry looks. I know I shouldn't knock real people, but jfc. What was going on with him? What's with the long hair and bloated face? Was it the drugs and booze? (Actually, I can corroborate. It is drugs and booze.)

Six weeks from premiere date and no spoilers other than the whole Teddy/Owen/Amelia thing being "funtimes" What's up with that? I am so desperate for spoilers, that I'll take Jaggie spoilers. I'm that desperate. /nojoke

I agree, that was not cool at all. The issue of rape and assault was actually brought up on the other thread here within the FRIENDS section of PTV not too long ago. We've also encountered an alarming topic regarding Chandler and Joey's sister. I don't remember this episode but someone else had said that Chandler had been so piss drunk to the point of not even remembering anything (and therefore, unable to consent) having sex with Joey's sister. If this is the episode I am thinking (probably aired in season 3?) then to add insult to injury, Joey had been so pissed off at Chandler for not remembering. And then he ended up getting humiliated at Joey's grandmother's house for trying to pick out the right sister out of the eight million there. Like, really? Really, show? Sure, blame a guy who had been to drunk to remember–and consent–to engaging in sexual activities with a woman who knew he had been too drunk and unable to consent. /metoothatfuckerchandler

There's an article I read just now on Cracked regarding Joey and his sexual behavior during the series. Here it is. It's not like I never noticed these things about Joey, but I am wondering if anyone else ever saw these. What are your thoughts?

Here are the friendships as it stands, from what I've observed over the years. Jen and Courteney are very close friends. Matt and Matthew are friends, but not as close as Jen and Courteney. Courteney and Matthew are good friends, but not super closer like she is with Jen. I don't know about Lisa or David.

College roommate and best girl friend. Just in case nobody got that part. This was known probably in the episode where Chandler talks about Ross buying Carol a crystal duck when he fell in love with her and realized his mistake because he just implied that Ross loved Rachel. I don't think they ever truly got it figured out until season five, in that Thanksgiving episode. I will have to watch this flashback episode, even though with the whole Rachel/Chandler and Ben's conception errors, I will definitely head-canon it as being alternate universe.

Yeah, and by then I think they had Joey crushing on Rachel so it would be weird for Phoebe/Joey to suddenly hook up. I'm glad they didn't go down that route though. All six friends being paired off as three groups would have been far too cliche. I thought David was as dull as a rock. But he was supposed to be some uber science geek like Tesla or someone. Whatever. I actually liked Mike, but I did not like how they presented him or the whole premise of his and Phoebe's relationship. But again, I hated Phoebe in season 9 and 10, beginning around that time they made her breasts big (for plot contrivances with that pedophile) and just so ditzy. Mike seemed like an intelligent man until they dumbed him down, probably to make him more compatible with dumb, ditzy blonde Phoebe. Whatever. I actually thought Joey was a wee bit (minus TOW Stripper Cries) smarter than Phoebe a couple times. And Joey is the stupidest of the stupidest, so that is saying something. /irony

Yeah, that whole Rachel and Chandler premise really ruins it because we're supposed to have established (even by then but not as clear as in season five and ten) that they already met through Ross and Monica. Like Jaclyn said, I see it as a "what could have been" episode. I don't see that any of it really happened. Also, weren't Ross and Phoebe meeting for the first time in the series premiere? I can't remember, I don't begin my binge-watch (been a few years, though) until around the time Phoebe volunteers to be a surrogate for her brother.

Ross doesn't almost sleep with Phoebe when he found out Carol was a lesbian. That as an Alternate Universe episode.This was the same episode where Rachel and Chandler made out, and they clearly would not do that to Ross. Monica is irrelevant since this was years before the London hook-up. On the topic, neither Ross and Rachel were right in what they did. But to answer the question, they were broken up.

When Joey put two and two together, realizing Monica and Chandler had gone away together. "They don't know we know they know we know."

i used to be able to watch one whole season at a time in a single sitting (about eight hours) but not anymore. The characters and plot piss me off too much that I am only able to watch two or three episodes at a time. I have been seeing an episode here and there on TBS and MeTV lately, and it's making me a bit nostalgic. But I still wouldn't binge-watch a entire season all at once. Also, as to where I begin, I begin on TOW Girl from Poughkeepsie. (Firefox is asking me if I mean 'housekeeping' so I have no idea if I spelt that right l o l l o l)

Watched a few episodes in the past several days. It was the London episodes and the three or four following that. There is one that is coming up I am extremely wary about, and since that thing (IDEFK) was brought up in the last two pages, I'll start with that. The show seemed to go way over board with the incest, the jokes, the references. All of that. Monica and Ross seemed like the sort of brother and sister who hated, absolutely hated, each other's guts growing up. I understand sibling dynamics change as people grow older (hell, my sister and I couldn't stand each other when we were teenagers now we tolerate each other at best) but holy. fucking. jesus. christ. I don't know in what world a brother and sister would be okay with sharing incest related jokes, jokes about eachother's looks or sex lives. Or sharing stories about their sex lives or any other intimate details. Still on that topic, someone in the previous page mentioned Ross raped Monica? l o l l o l. Rape is sexual assault, when one forcibly penetrates another without their consent. All Ross penetrated was her mouth, he didn't go anywhere near Monica's privates. Or something like that, don't ask me to elaborate or think twice please. Ugh. /eyeroll But yeah, that wasn't cool what Ross did, I don't care he thought it was Rachel. The girl, whoever she was, was unconscious on a bed. You don't kiss an unconscious girl on the bed, whether she's your crush, your sister, or a complete stranger. No bueno, Ross. And Chandler should have punched Ross. Or gone over to kiss Rachel. The only time I would be willing to condone 'Randler' post-London. I, too, see a lot of parallels between Mike/Phoebe and Chandler/Monica. I think that's why they work so well. But at the same time, I do wish Mike/Phoebe had their original storylines, rather than plots ripped from various Chandler/Monica romantic or platonic scenes over the years.

As I said in my previous post: I mean, I will elaborate further if I have to. What I am saying is that I don't like how the hook-up was anti-climatic. And that whole Monica was actually looking for Joey but ended up fucking Chandler thing ruined the premise of the Mondler London hook-up. /lightson

"Katie" who played Marcel was actually someone's pet. I remember reading about this some time ago. I agree that monkeys should not be kept as pet; they're wild creatures who deserve to be in their natural habitat. I think the fascination with monkeys is that they are the absolute primitive forms of humans, with our last common ancestors having lived just a couple million years ago. But they're not humans, we diverged to form our own branch of primates millions of years ago. Sadly, the entertainment industry do not get that. Sorry, just wanted to get that out of there. And yes, Marcel was a girl. /themoreyouknow Also, started to watch FRIENDS again over the past few months. I just can't seem to get into it like I used to. Is it sad that Joey, who I used to absolutely hate, is entertaining now? Did the world start spinning backwards? But yeah, there are a lot of elements I see now that I realize are really screwed up. As others on this thread have said, Ross/Rachel. That relationship was toxic. They dragged them out for seven seasons, will they or won't they get back together? I agree that it was so stupid that their feelings for one another kept being used as plot contrivances. When Ross was with Emily, Rachel suddenly had feelings for Ross until Emily was out of the picture completely. By the end of season 5, Rachel could barely stand Ross and at the beginning of season 6, she was ready to get away from him. When Ross catches Rachel with Joey, suddenly he's overwhelmed with jealousy even though he hadn't had any strong feelings for Rachel in what... five years? Someone either on this or the previous page said they liked how Monica/Chandler's hookup was revealed. While I will always love that unexpected hook-up in London, it felt incredibly anti-climatic. I actually watched this episode the other day. In one scene, a drunken Englishman tells Monica she looks like Ross' mother and Chandler tries to comfort her in his own Chandler way; then the next they're waking up in bed together? Whoa, how the hell did that happen? I'm sure there are fanfics out there (admittedly, even better written than TOW Could Have Been with Monica/Joey) that go into depth with this, but the writers really screwed up here. But on the other hand, I did like that whoa what, Monica and Chandler?! shock factor. So, yeah, this probably belonged on that other thread, but I got off on a tangent. I see FRIENDS differently now than when I first saw it 12 years ago. I think it's also because I am older than these characters now than when the show ended as well. I can't relate to any of them, but I have this image of 30 somethings being much more mature and having all their shit together, ducks lined up in a neat order. So, yeah. There you go.

Bahaha, I remember very basic image editing software (Paint, anyone?) before I could even afford Photoshop. I'm sure many, many of you remember times even before Paint existed, when computers were these big-ass machines the size of a small office. (Ok, maybe not that old!) There's this fancy smanchy feature you can find in any photo editing software today–and it's not just restricted to Photoshop, Instagram filters anyone?–where you can manipulate pictures to look like they were taken in the fifties or sixties. You can degrade the image quality, do a sepia or half-tone filter, and then let's not forget the people. :) So clickbait. Who are they designed for anyways? I guess Gen Snooze, perhaps? But I know quite a few Gen Snoozers who are actually intelligent. Sidenote: We need to come up with a name for these intellectual up and coming high schoolers.

I wish Sarah all the best. I should go check her Instagram page to see what she's been up to.

*yawns* So will it be like Brooke/Lucas/Peyton but with 40 somethings instead of teenagers? We need a Naley stat. Who can be the Grey's Naley counterpart? /thinks I mean, I already know who. But KV wrote one half of them off last year. /snark

I feel like Russ Brennan needs to return. I feel like we were left hanging with his and Meredith's interaction. He seemed to give her a whole new insight regarding that whole scandal with Maria and Ellis. Would love to see him return, and because many, many, many years of him is owed to me no thanks to Hart Hanson being a twat. :)

At least it still functions for being a two decade old software. Another Google related bitching today. Kind of. Does anyone find Google Doodle incredibly annoying? My computer is a 2011 Mac release, so sometimes, I have to try to minimize all the intense graphics, sounds, etc. But on a day Google decides to have a graphic intensive Doodle, it fucking slows my ancient computer down. Is there a way to disable it permanently? You think there would be if you were logged into your own account. Sucks to be a guest though.

Yeah, but who's going to be able to catch that in the status bar? It goes so damn fast that you think "was that fb.blahblah I just saw?" but you can't go back and look. But perhaps you can find out via 'insights' (Firefox) or the "About Page" (also Firefox" under "Media". It lists every single component of the website. Mhmm, the cookies. Like I haven't thought of that. But then it erases all your login info, the things that make all the convenience. :) Latest bitch: Google is updating their email platform. But why? I like it just the way it is. There are a couple things they could stand to fix, such as tabs/category (whatever they call it) and the Google Chat which never works anymore. But other than that? I think it's just fine. But I have to applaud Google for not updating things every other week like a certain web browser. For the past five or six months, I've been getting alerted that my version of Firefox is critically out of date. I have 56. what are they on now? 1,000? /snark

But not really since you know, a certain substance just became legal in my state, yo. I'll probably have a toke or two at quarter of every Thursday, chow down a big heaping bowl of pasta, and just trip out. Grey's Anatomy will be a lot more tolerable that way, methinks.

I'm done with this shitfest. Let me know when there's spoilers hinting at Webber's playboy days back in the day (circa 1980/1981) that involves Catherine. Bye.

So, not exactly sorry to post twice in just a matter of hours because this thread is pretty much dead. But understandable, I wouldn't want to complain about the million and one things I hate about the Internet all at one and blow up the forums. However, I have to bitch again, just mere hours later. I'm sorry about that. So, I just spent the past hour or two looking through Facebook at this cat&kitten rescue page based in British Columbia, that also has a TNR (Trap-Neuter-Return) program; I was looking at the main feed and the pages of the adopted cats&kittens that I grew familiar with during their time with this rescue group. Anyways, so, I log out of that maybe twenty minutes ago, switch Facebook account (was using my pseudonymous one and now on my IRL one. Realize I should probably switched back, but I trust PTV... Facebook on the other handd...) so, anyways, I decide to check out Etsy because someone on my FList said they were heading to Europe (but not a country I have any interest in visiting) and I decide to check out if there's anything relevant to my European country of interest there. Guess what shows up on "Recommended for [my real name]" /that annoying dash plus underline plus dash or that greater than, underline, less than emoticon Cat toys, catnip products, cat paraphernalia. What the fuck, man? Hey, Etsy, back the fuck off. But I am partially to blame here, though. I always log out of every account I own and evidently forgot to log out of Etsy when I was on it a couple weeks ago. But still, does this mean every website you've forgotten to log out of are tracking your activity? Super creepy, Interwebz. Super creepy. PS: I would log out of PTV but they make the login so freaking difficult!

So Bailey, Alex, and Jo are definitely still around then. I hope Teddy isn't at GSMH for long.

So, I got a whole load of Internet related complaints and pet peeves. But I am not going to list them all at once in fear of sounding like my grandmother who was a bitch until her final breath. Right now, this pet peeve is not 100& Web related, but I can't help be paranoid. If anyone can relate, then please let me know so I can believe I'm not turning into a Schizoid. There is this really bad fan-fic being written over on FFN, a site that I strongly believe has no moderators these days. Anyways, I notice every time I leave a review, I get a neighbor spoofed number call that's always saying ".... and you may be eligible for a 10% interest rate..." by which point I have erased the message. I never answer these calls anymore, but have to sit through the messages, or a part of it. It is so fucking annoying. Anyways, getting back to the Internet topic, I swear that I am being doxxed. If anyone can. corroborate, please do so.