mrsdalgliesh

Agreed. The writing on the L side of the show is so much worse post reincarnation and I don't know how a smart person like HD is coping with portraying a character who is both arrogant *and* clueless.

Voight learned something from Olinsky leaving DNA while moving Justin’s killer’s body. Now, even if they dig up this scumbag, there will be no trace of Voight’s DNA on it.

My sense was that EB's motivation for suicide was, at least partly, to buy some time and a way out for his client. He made her promise to fight (and really, she was telling him she wouldn't plead guilty in every way during that conversation) -- and if he's dead, he can't be coerced into taking a plea for her. This way, there will be a delay while she's assigned new counsel and this gives Perry time to find the 4th man. I like a lot of things about this show, but I'm really frustrated with the writing for Perry. Matthew Rhys has not been given a clear line through this case for his character or motivations. Finally tonight we got some backstory on his relationship to EB. Yay! OTOH, we got that sentimental connection to the farm which came out of nowhere from what we've seen of his character. And what did the WWI flashback tell us that is evident in how they've written Perry? I am a huge Matthew Rhys fan, but I think he's being pulled this way and that so far by the writers. I hope they get it together.

Just arriving in the forum after having watched the full season in fits and starts. Glad to see others are: wondering why the writers gave Kristen so many daughters; and seeing the childbirth timeline as a little wonky, esp. since we now have to incorporate a miscarriage and enough failure to conceive to justify IVF I thought this last episode's editing was a bit off -- as if it were once a longer episode for the season finale? Still, there isn't anything else on TV like this and it hits my creepy sweet spot. There are genuinely scary moments, and some things (like Kristen's alley office) are just the right kind of unsettling -- but it's not slasher horror, which I hate. Plus weird humor. I'm certainly in for a second season.

I feel like I hear Michael Emerson‘s voice in any off screen character, so I wasn’t surprised when he turned out to be the singer of the earworm song. But now I’m paranoid that he is the priest that David is confessing to. Anyone else?

The minute I saw Laurie Holden's name in the credits, I knew Stan's girlfriend would be a problem. This because I'm old and remember her from TXF -- and what her role was If it turns out she really is Russian, I'm going to feel even more ancient because that will mean the show didn't think casting her was a dead giveaway.

WTF?? I stuck around despite Raza Jeffrey's exit ( which I'm now guessing had to do with Rob Lowe becoming available) but if Mama is gone, it had better be entirely LG's choice.

I liked the American "Prime Suspect" once I divorced it from the original British show, I really like Bosch, and I think Vertigo is overrated -- so now I know exactly how I'd feel about this. Time saver! Thanks!

Fun, but I call shenanigans. How did Tig know there was an ogre in the story?

Binged the season this weekend. I watch the show for the scenery (thank you, show, for frequently pulling back and giving us the vistas) and for the focus on the reservation and its woes. I don't know of any other series that tries to address that. So this season worked for me in those ways. But oy, Walt was such a pain this season. Self-righteous to the max. I don't know if there are enough viewers to be in two camps or not, but I'm in the one that hopes Walt is wrong about Jacob. Not that I want Jacob to be an angel, not at all. I think his character consider himself a pragmatist, and something do unethical things for what he thinks are the right reasons. Morally ambiguous. What I **don't** want is for every move of his -- like hiring Cady and setting up the law office -- to be part of some singular vendetta to Get Walt. If that happens, the show and I will not be friends anymore. Horrible cliffhanger, but at least they let us in on why the lawsuit is happening.

I gave it a chance, too -- and I'll watch, mostly because I really like (:::waves at actual doctors and nurses, apologizing:::) the scenes of craziness when multiple patients and/or extremely critical patients come in. And Rob Lowe is terrific at that kind of rapid fire professional stuff and I've missed seeing him do it since The West Wing. Last season, I think a lot of us put up with the cheesier plotlines and/or hospital politics because of the grittier scenes and it looks like that will continue. Seems like they're doing a reset: no mention at all of Neal (soooo sad) and Christa (meh), the head surgeon is much less of an ass, and the short female surgeon hasn't tried to have sex with anybody yet. I'm thrilled they put MGH back in the action with Mama. Don't you dare try and put her in an office again, show.

Usenet still exists?? :::boggle:::

No Raza Jeffrey?? *sigh* I was so happy about the renewal, but now not as much. I didn't like the romance subplot much, but thought he was terrific. Rats.

Glad to see the renewal notice. Cautiously optimistic. More Raza Jeffrey on my screen? Yes, please.

This week was up and down, but the up was fantastic. Watching "Inside Amy Schumer" is funny. Watching the couches watch it made me laugh so hard I was crying. And Peanut was hilarious at the end of the "Alone" segment. "They knew just where to send that guy..." In other news, the older ladies are stepping it up since the boring couple disappeared. Ayn and Sue, in particular, are becoming a little comedy duo. "You're too loud to be a spy." Heh.

Vicky8675309 how did you binge watch the show? We've been discussing the fact that we can't find old episodes -- it's not even on my on-demand list. The older ladies were hilarious this week. Loved Sue asking Ayn: "Do you need a pill?" Teddi was even smiling occasionally! No new couple again. Fine with me! We bitch sometimes about too many Bravo shows being used, but I've got to credit the producers with always using the shows I hope for: the American Idol finale, the Walking Dead season finale, that cray-cray Blacklist episode...and since I don't watch any Housewives (or Shah) shows, TPC lets me laugh at them and keep up with that corner of pop culture.

If you're ranking on "how likely to win," then I don't have an opinion. America voting? Never less than a letdown. If you were ranking on talent, however, I'd argue Adam Wakefield should be near the top. No, he's not going to win the votes of America's teenage girls, but the man's an artist, vocally and on guitar.

No new couple...And the older gals were lively tonight with Ayn snarking and Sue revealing she was at the courthouse for the OJ verdict. (??). And the beauty of this show: I would never have watched the PeeWee movie, and if I had, I wouldn't have laughed very hard, but Julie losing her shit over PeeWee made me cry laughing. This episode showed some negative reviews from the couches, particularly for the Rush Hour pilot. Glad to see it isn't all automatic promos.

Thanks to the person who posted the link to the showrunners' interview. This quote is exactly what I was trying to express earlier in the thread:

This show. Damn. Re: Nina/scientist plot... I saw it as an important piece of the whole and more real, in a way than other shows are willing to be. I expected, based on tv conventions, that when Nina was sent back home, she'd be written off the show, 'cause who has patience to follow an isolated character? But Nina represents a unique part of the world they're showing us and by following her, we saw more of the despair of it. The other "gasp worthy" moment I this ep, for me, was Elizabeth acknowledging to Philip that he -- Philip -- really just wants to be an American and let the kids be fully American. I have always hoped that this show would move towards one or both of them becoming double agents (though not veering from the tragedy that's inevitable). An open acknowledgement that one of them might have the motivation...

I never realized, from The Soup clips, that Gigolos went that far. That's old school Showtime-level.

Haven't had time to check in here in a while, but I'm relieved to find that I'm not the only one who thinks the new couple is not nearly as entertaining as the other couches. I've given them several weeks, but I can't think of a single memorable moment from their segments. Goes to show it's not as easy as it looks, I guess. But otherwise? LOVE this show so much. "That's not a big enough bouquet for 'Sorry I pushed you down the stairs and killed your baby'...but that cape coat!" The producers do a great job of including shows I don't want to watch but which are events of one kind or another...like "The Passion" or the first new DWTS. "The Passion" segment was hilarious. I have lots of shows I watch each week live or DVR, but this has turned into a "must see immediately" show. I'm already depressed about the next break. And there are no full eps online or on demand that I can find to help during detox!

I have just started a re-watch. Mentions of Fringe in articles about the XF limited series made me watch scenes on youtube, starting with the final episode's final scenes -- and I just started feeling the feels for this show again. I'm an original X-Phile: watched from the beginning, got online early, made friends I have to this day. But elsewhere this week, I wrote some of those friends: "Frankly, in many ways, it is the show XF should or could have been. It had a much more coherent mythology that actually wrapped up (for the most part) by the end of the show. The most moving relationship -- and the one that was the most meaningful in terms of the show's arc -- was between a father and son. Now, watching the Pilot, I am again in awe of how much of the future of the show was there. I hadn't remembered that William Bell got name-checked so early, or that John Scott was gone so quickly (yay!). The players were on the board right from the start. I'm really looking forward to a rewatch.

That first interview segment (like the Paley Center interview) was hilarious. I would watch 6 episodes of *that.*

I'm going to give Emily Ann some credit: I did not think she could manage that song, and she did. And I had fun with Jordan and his choir. I did. I don't care how cheesy it was. I can't see buying either of their music, past, present, and future, of course. Everyone else? Meh.