MaryAnneSpier
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There's a lot of potentially triggering stuff that's involved with the Duggars. When we involve religious trauma along with the Josh mess, there's not a way to handle discussion under the new guidelines other than avoid them altogether. The quality of discussions and insights here has dwindled because of the new mods, and the latest directive from the mod is the final straw for me.
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I think it's actually better to have a more experienced mother of a brood to give this talk, or have a couple who've been married 20 years to give a workshop on marriage to newlyweds. They have more perspective- I view it as mentorship. This is much more appropriate than having Duggars who've been married mere months give sermons on marriage.
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Go ahead and add me to that as well. Thank you!
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The Other Duggars: The Lost Girls and Amy
MaryAnneSpier replied to Ljohnson1987's topic in Counting On
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I think it's akin to when a company wants to fire you, but they have no real justification to do so, so they set new goalposts without telling you what they are or how to achieve them. The when you're fired, they can say you didn't meet expectations. It's just a workaround to put on paper that their firing was just, when in reality it wasn't. This forum has a certain demographic in race and age that doesn't appeal to DEI initiatives, so the way to boost their numbers to something more pleasing is to close down forums that are predominately their undesired demographic. It's all a game, and we're the losers in the game.
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I'm saddened that this doesn't seem unusual to me. I'm grateful that I am no longer part of a group like this but of course, I'm saddened that this is reality and not everyone gets an opportunity to leave. It's awful but expected from the men in positions of authority to behave like this. It took many years of living in the real world and more and more distance between myself and church before my initial reaction to someone's pain or embarrassment wasn't to laugh at them. True empathy and compassion for others are lacking, especially in the male groups from what I have observed.
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Requesting help to change titles for locked threads.
MaryAnneSpier replied to Joan of Argh's topic in Counting On
And it's still in Red Light territory. I figured it would at least have been notched to Yellow if the new administrators wanted this to stay around. I really think they're just playing with us, giving the illusion and false hope that if we behave and follow their rules, they'll be gracious enough to "allow" us to keep our forum. I think come April, the whole Duggar corner of Primetimer will be unceremoniously dropped.- 26 replies
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The relationship between Gabby and her husband is relevant because it's another example of the lifestyle and views of gender roles in their brand of Christianity. Cade will not allow Gabby to have the spotlight- he always ensures that he not only tags along but tries to take over and gain more attention than she does. It's quite similar to the dynamic between Jinger and Jeremy- she was a D-list reality TV celebrity, and he consistently tries to outshine her instead of taking the backseat. Gabby and Cade are/were friends with the Vuolos, and knew them well enough to have Jeremy officiate their wedding, which Jeremy happily posted all over SM. If it's being posted by the parties on their socials, I don't think it's overstepping to continue conversations about them in the thread for their "friends".
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We're being treated like Kindergarten children. We have "Red, Yellow, Green Lights" to let us know about our behavior level. And now we get stickers for following the rules. This is just plain insulting.
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How are improvements supposed to be made when threads have been locked? We can't post anything, either good or bad, so there's no way to get feedback about what's appropriate and what isn't. I think the whole Duggar page is finished. I've been here, both as a poster and as a lurker, since early 2015. I feel this site was very respectful toward different points of view- good, healthy debates without making it nasty toward each other. In a way, the Duggar board was one of the resources that has helped me through my religious deconstruction, before I even knew that was a thing. I don't like Reddit, but I suppose that's where I'll have to go now.
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The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie
MaryAnneSpier replied to frenchtoast's topic in Counting On
Just yesterday I found that Gabby and Cade are going to be in a thriller/ horror movie. And it’s not a director who makes “Christian horror” films, so that is a bit puzzling. I saw Gabby’s name in the cast list and then was both surprised and not surprised that further down, Cade was listed as well. That dude needs to quit riding her coattails.