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I think they are showing changes in fashion. Not everyone wears the latest styles/trends. Men's suits in the 1950s were big and boxy (a look that came back in the 1990s), then in the 1960s the trend went to narrow and more fitted (which made a comeback in the 1980s).

This isn't a perfect comparison, but it's the best I can come up with. It's the difference between a driver getting in a car accident because of something the driver was or was not doing vs. a driver getting into an accident because there was a defect in the brakes. The manufacturer cannot be blamed for something that is the fault of the driver. I think Russell is worried the newspapers will blame him for something that may or may not have been his fault. Any accident obviously isn't good for his business.

No, I think he understands that accidents happen and sooner or later something would go wrong. It's just basic law of averages. I can't remember the exact line of dialogue, but to me it indicated that he was worried about him and his company being blamed for the accident, as opposed to someone finding out that he was not following rules/regulations.

To me, that meant that couldn't go after Shy Baldwin. They're kind of like protective older brothers who will mess with anyone who hurts thier kid sister. Only in this case, they couldn't because of who he was connected to. It's possible. She may be able to use her mob-backed business to get bookings for her acts. They couldn't pressure the Copacabana or a similar place to book of her acts as a headliner. They might be able to use thier connections to put pressure on the owner of a smaller club to book one of her acts once a week or once a month as the opening act. I loved Midge's set at the strip club about laundry and door to door salesmen. She's on her way to becoming more involved in the day to day running of the club. Not the business/financial side of it but the entertainment side. I could see her becoming something like a stage manager, except she'd need to hire someone to work backstage making sure the show runs more smoothly.

Maybe it was the box seats in the balcony, but I was expecting Lenny to really heckle Midge like Statler and Waldorf from The Muppet Show. It was a test and I'd say she passed. Maybe he likes her too much to do something that would really distract her and throw her off her game. This felt very "you only pull the pigtails of the one you love," it's mild.

As soon as I read this, I could totally picture a movie (but with slightly different characters based on the Young Sheldon characters). It's with the youth pastor. An uptight highly judgemental southern Christian and the cool youth pastor team up to rob a bank because it's the only way to get the money they need to save the church (because of plot reasons I haven't figured out yet) and along the way she learns to loosen up and participating in the heist brings out a side of her she thought she'd lost. It also saves her marriage.

We haven't seen the dishes in a big pile in a sink so someone has been washing them, but it's much easier to fill the dishwasher and press a button than to wash and dry everything by hand. I'm sure the kids have chores.

My guess is that they may have connected it while he was away/out of the house. Overall, I enjoyed the episode. This is the kind of Sheldon based school-based storyline that works best. I liked seeing the two women bond. Mary and George are going to have thier ups and downs, but he is trying and I don't think he's ready to call it quits on the relationship yet. It's shame based on time/place/culture they can't see a real marriage counseor who might be able to help and do some real good for the couple and thier relationship.

Hazel is in middle school, so probably around 12 years-old, depending on when their district starts middle class. Overall, I enjoyed the episode. It was fun seeing Lois bond with Lizzie over girl stuff and things she didn't get to do with her sons. I think interrupting class to kiss him was wrong, but I liked Lois's message that you will regret not taking the next step in a relationship if both parties are willing/interested. Al might not like dogs but he has a strong work ethic and believes in keeping promises. Also, he really cares about Hazel and wants what is best for her. I like that Hazel wanted money and found a legal, age-appropriate way to earn it. I liked Riley's story with Holly too. Shallow end of the pool: We got see him working out and showing off his abs, which is always appreciated. Leaving the shallow end of the pool: It was great to see Riley demonstrating some emotional awareness and wanting to connect with Vanessa, even though he was advised against it and the conversation should have gone far worse than it did. It's the thought/awareness that counts

It's weird seeing Saint being in charge of this massive criminal enterprise, but also still one or two steps away from disaster the entire time. I enjoyed seeing them borrow from Godfather (Michael's promise to Kay-"In five years the family is going to be completely legitimate"). I think the first two episodes of the season did a good job of setting up where the characters are and where they are headed. I am looking forward to the rest of season 5. I know it's the mid 1980s, but the new title card reminded me of a disco-ball.

Gladys is not yet out in soceity and so proper young men should not be courting her. It's stupid, but those are the rules of the society they are in. I was thinking in terms of TV and what makes for a dramatic pilot/first episode, but I like your idea of buying his way out, which was a real possibility and would fit with the character.

I'm glad Bill has a good relationship with his father-in-law. I was expecting it be more along the lines of "you took my little girl away from me and I resent you for that." Instead, they bond over the fact that they are two laid back men who have married smart, determined, stubborn women. Kim's grandmother absolutely should have made a comment about Kim's hair. Especially something directed to Lillian like "Can't you get your daughter to do something nice with her hair?" I loved Bill pointing out to Kim that she is like her mother in more ways than she cares to admit. I think that dinner scene was only reason to have Kim there for the weekend.

I agree with all of this. Also, men often married later/older than women. It wasn't unusual to have an age gap with a slightly older man marrying a slightly younger woman. He would have established himself and could demonstrate that he would be able to take care of her and support her. (At least, this was the theory. It didn't always work out in practice). Archie isn't actually going to be picking up a shovel or operating machinery. He is in finance and will be spending most of his time in an office in New York City. I highly doubt he will ever visit Panama much less move there. Maybe he will go to the grand opening, but that's it.

I would love to watch this hypothetical series as well. You would need multiple seasons to tell it properly because it would be covering a 20 year time period at a minumum, but you could skip years between seasons. A season ends in 1875 and the next season starts in 1880. The early seasons would have to cut back and forth between Mr. Scott as a newly freed person or a young runaway and the future Mrs. Scott being a free black woman in New York during the 1860s. The pilot starts with Mr. Scott being freed or running away. This brings up a question I had. Why don't we see Marian interacting with more people close to her own age? Is it because she was never formally brought out to society? Are her aunts preventing it for some reason? Do the other mothers feel she isn't the right sort of person for thier daughters to be friends with and spend with socially? I think it's recognized in that titles would be used as part of an introduction (Lord and Lady _______, or whatever thier titles were) instead of Mr. and Mrs. ________. Titles would not grant them special privilages or rights within the U.S except for bragging rights. You have no idea how much better this makes me feel. It's fantastic knowing I'm not the only one who is having trouble learning the names and jobs of the downstairs people in both houses.

I was trying to find a way to say something very similiar to this. As individuals, both George and Bertha are terrible, but at the same time it's awesome to see them very clearly in love with each other and supporting each other as they work to achieve thier goals. The lunch with Ward McAllister did not go the way I thought it would. I thought Marian would say or do something stupid so that any mistake Bertha made would be instantly forgotten. Based on McAllister's comments, I am now even more convinced the season finale will be the ball for Gladys filling the ballroom with all of the right people. I am hoping Peggy and Marian continue to have a good relationship and that Marian actually learns from her mistake with the shoes.

My biggest problem was that in real life, Desi Arnez had a really funny clever line that difused the situation, which they cut in the movie for same fake dramatic moment involving J. Edgar Hoover.

Based on the timing of the newspaper article, I thought Midge and Susie realized that her set had nothing to do with getting left on the tarmac. It seemed to me like Shy's people had planned to fire her before the set at the Apollo. Here's my two cents on the Shy Baldwin set: Outing Shy Baldwin would have been a horrible thing to do and would have terrible consqeuences for his life and career, but I don't think that's what she did. So few people outside the entertainment industry had gaydar in 1960, that the set is almost a non-issue. The odds that the majority of the audience would have been able to intrepet the code seems pretty small to me. Most people laughing at the set would have been laughing out of recognition at the idea that yep, Shy is a flashy dresser and into clothes. In the 21st Century, we know what an icon Judy Garland is/was to the gay community. In 1960, that wasn't as well known to the general public. Around this time, maybe even slightly later, an investigative unit in the military trying to find homosexuals so they could be given discharges (unusually dishonorable) didn't know that being "A Friend of Dorothy" was code for being gay. These were people whose job it was to find homosexuals, and even they were unaware of it. They thought there was an actual real-life woman named Dorothy at the center of gay life in the military and were trying to figure out who this Dorothy person was.

No dread here, just really looking forward to it. This season is very clearly set in 1960 and things don't really go south for him in a major way until 1964. My guess is the series will end long before we get to the point in time when Lenny Bruce's career and life went horribly wrong. Overall, I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it did an excellent job of setting up the season and giving an indication of where the characters may be headed. I can't wait to see Midge do a comedy set at the strip club.

Same here. Joel is closer to my usual type and even I forgot how cute he was. I agree. Only someone who knew the code words would be able to figure out what she meant (and outside the entertainment industry most people didn't have gaydar), and I'm not even 100% sure that Midge knew that she was using the code words to begin with. Overall, I enjoyed the episode. I didn't enjoy the scene on the Wonder Wheel. I did like her set at the start and end talking about revenge.

Slightly on-topic/slightly off-topic. I have no problem with JK Rowling telling people in interviews and on websites what happened to the characters after the end of the 7th book, because as far as she knew, she wasn't planning on writing something else that would cover that time period in her Wizarding World Universe. I don't have an issue with her telling fans/readers who characters we didn't see in the 7th book's epilogue married and what they were doing. It's fun little bonus stuff that isn't really important to the main story. If something is actually important and relevant to the story we are being told and watching in real time, than that information should be in the actual episode and not just mentioned in a bonus feature/podcast/website.

I that's correct, but there's also more to it. In movies, female full frontal would often get a movie an R rating, which was usually acceptable. Many times a studio or distributor would have a clause in the contract that the director or producer's film had to recieve an R rating or lower, otherwise it would need edits to ensure an R rating. Male full fontral would be an automatic NC-17 which is pretty much the kiss of death for a movie. Very few places would accept an advertisment for an NC-17 movie. TV had even more restrictions until very recently. If someone has come up through a system with that kind of restriction in place, it's hard for them to realize under certain conditions they might be allowed to have a scene with male full frontal. The fact that most people in the upper levels of the industury are still men (directors, writers, producers, executives) probably has something to do with it as well.

I totally understand that. When I'm watching The Mandalorian I go back and forth between identifying the classic movie they are referencing and also going "awww" over how cute Grogu is.

I tried to find words that would express my reaction and respond to this without sounding like a stoner and gave up on that so here it goes: This blows my mind on a fundamental level. It's crazy to think that events in The Gilded Age are happening at the same time as the events on Little House on the Prairie. It seems/feels like it would be decades apart. And now I'm picturing Laura and/or Pa in New York City (for plot reasons because TVLand Logic) and acting like MacGyver (using thier knowledge to save the day). That's about what I figured. I always thought that college student loans started on a vast scale post World War II, but that was not based on anything I had read or heard, just a general feeling of what sounded correct. Thank you for taking the time to do the research and sharing what you found with everyone here.

My understanding at this point was that doctors did not need formal education/training to be doctors. They could apprentice. It would not surprise me if the same was true for pharmacists. Back then Ivy League schools were far less expensive than they are now. Also, they were more about accepting "the right people." (People from "good families" who could afford to pay). If someone was graduating, they probably would not have student loan debt. Bannister (The Old Money Butler) messing with Church's (the New Money Butler) mind was fantastic. If there was any doubt, Mr. Russell really loves his wife and has no plans to be unfaithful to her. It's great we got a comprehensive full explanation of Mrs. Chamberlands's situation.