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5 hours ago, shapeshifter said:
I just happened to watch OG Frasier 2.4 "Flour Child," in which "After witnessing a woman [cabbie] give birth, Niles decides it's time to practice his parenting skills — on a sack of flour."
David actually is a logical result.
I wonder, though, if TPTB ever considered naming him Martin.
David was named in memory/honor of one of the show's creators, David Angell, who was killed in the 9/11 attack. David was born in 2004 during the final episode of the original Frasier.
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On 11/23/2023 at 11:51 AM, Bumblebee84047 said:
I really liked the interaction between David and Freddy. More of that, please.
And David, don't worry. Just tell Niles that the B (and B minus!) came from Frasier. Niles will say it's from jealousy and trying to undercut you and Niles and he'll blame Frasier.
I love this. I can hear Niles saying that.
It does make wonder about David's parents. I can't picture Daphne putting that kind of pressure on her child. I'm also not sure about Niles either.
I think I am starting to piece together the story Freddy told his friends. They know Lilith exists and who she is, so that would explain his knowledge of "the finer things/snob stuff/highbrow culture." He told lies about who his father was, which somehow should explain why he seems more like a "regular guy" except when he's drunk. I like drunk Freddy. I want to see more of him.
Overall, I really enjoyed this episode.
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On 11/22/2023 at 12:04 PM, chaifan said:
I know some people are semi-joking about this, but I do hope Jack doesn't end up to be some famous clock/watch maker. I'd just like his story to reflect the "land of opportunity" that America was seen as at the time, where it was possible for someone to go from servant class to a "higher" station in life. And that it was socially acceptable to wish to do so. I'm perfectly happy if he leaves the service industry to be just your average, everyday watch/clock repairman, or owns his own shop.
Yes! This is exactly what I want/hope to happen with his storyline. I want him to ultimately be successful enough to have his own shop.
On 11/22/2023 at 3:29 PM, chaifan said:I think the difference in "permanence" of the position between the US and England is an important distinction, and that's what I'm hoping Jack's storyline shows. That servants in the US were allowed to want to be more than a servant.
This is a crucial and important point. It explains Jack and also why most of the other servants seem supportive of him. They understand that being in service, especially for someone of Jack's generation, may not be a lifelong career.
21 hours ago, Shermie said:Bertha, Gladys, Agnes, Ada, Enid. What we call “nursing home names”, although women with those names have mostly even aged out of nursing homes now.
8 hours ago, Affogato said:It is a sign of our ages that those names sound like 'old lady' names. Many of them became popular again, names seem to do that.
Names go in cycles. What for one generation is an old person name, to a slightly younger generation is a pretty name that you do not hear much any more. I would much prefer Ruby, Opal, and Pearl instead of the more modern names (like all the spellings of Caitlin or spelling "Brittany" with three "t"s or two "n"s)or something that looks like someone trying to come up with a name based on letters they drew while playing scrabble.
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1 hour ago, Affogato said:
Gladys was raised by Bertha, but so was Larry. I suspect Larry had a shorter leash than most of his contemporaries.
I like this theory. Because Bertha cared so much about getting a place in society and wanting to rise through the ranks, it makes sense that she would not want her son doing something that would damage the family name or cause a scandal.
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12 hours ago, Roseanna said:
But he may have told the truth: he could have got new people to buy boxes.
That makes sense. He has business contacts. He is not above putting pressure on them for something that will make his wife happy. He could also have pitched it is good for their business. The opera is a chance to "accidentally" meet people that you want to discuss business with but can't get an appointment with them during the regular workday.
4 hours ago, Affogato said:I think we need to see more of Gladys and Bertha together, because I'm not seeing the relationship as all that disfunctional.
I think that was set up pretty well in the first season and there is no reason to think that Bertha has changed dramatically now that her daughter is out in society. I think she is just as controlling as ever. The fact that Gladys was so surprised she was able to go to the theatre and the party after with not much of a fight when she was clearly expecting an argument is quite telling.
1 hour ago, AntFTW said:My guess is that they want to give us the beginnings of a success story, how someone starts from humble beginnings to, possibly, an inventor or industrialist.
39 minutes ago, RachelKM said:We started the show with the Russells in the last stage of their transition. Jack might be at the start of his.
YES! I was trying to find a way to say this while @AntFTW and @RachelKM did it perfectly. Jack is going to figure out a way to build a better alarm clock and will make an absolute fortune from it. He may never become as wealthy as the Russells, but he will be able to live very well and certainly be able to quit his current job.
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3 hours ago, RachelKM said:
My fervent hope is that, realizing Agnes's temper at the proposal is rooting in a fear of being alone, she convinces Reverend Dead Poets Society, ot better he offers, to reside with Agnes during her life a'la Emma with Mr. Woodhouse. It could really go wither way with Fellowes.
This works for me. It keeps Ada and Agnes in the same house, which you need for the plot. It brings someone new into the mix, which can be fun. I would enjoy watching him interact with Marian and Oscar. It would be fascinating to see how he reacts to living in a house with servants.
1 hour ago, Carolina Girl said:Yep and that's where I think it WAS the servants - the lady's maid told the alarm clock kid, who told everyone downstairs. The butler, who I believe knows about Agnes telling Bertha to rid herself of her lady's made tells Agnes who tells Mrs. Astor.
This chain of events is completely plausible and totally works for me. I accept that this is what happened and explains how Mrs. Astor found out the truth about Enid Turner.
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34 minutes ago, Affogato said:
I really don't know what to make of David. Have I missed that he is in school? Do his parents, Niles and /or Daphne live in Boston? It took me three episodes to realize who he was (yes 'uncle' was a clue, I'm sometimes fairly clueless).
David is in college; he's at Harvard. Niles and Daphne are still in Seattle. I think the writers are still figuring out the character.
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20 minutes ago, chaifan said:
From what we saw of her treatment of Peggy in Season 1, I see her as someone that looks favorably upon those (lesser than her) that try to better their station in life. I think she respects (might be a bit strong of a word) those who do for themselves more than those who just stay status quo (Armstrong).
I can see it going either way. What you said is true, but she is also very much about tradition, the proper way, and is against change and the new.
20 minutes ago, chaifan said:One more comment about the dinner party with the Duke... I loved it when Bertha and George first arrived, and Bertha was about to go in the dining room to switch place cards, Bertha just said to George "Stay here." And he did. Without question. Without hesitation.
This is one of the many reasons why I love them as a couple. They support each other unconditionally and until recently had near absolute trust each other.
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10 hours ago, RachelKM said:
Actually, he probably wouldn't divorce her. He really wouldn't need to unless, for some reason, he wanted to marry someone else. He could simply stop funding anything.
I'm not sure that work, because he still has position in society and since he is married, there were functions/events his wife would be expected to attend with him. Too many absences might result in gossip and questions.
9 hours ago, Roseanna said:As many here said before, it was a mistake from Turner to come to Russell's house where servants recognized her because servants use to gossip with other servants.
There's part of me that wishes we could have had that quick montage. I want to see what the old fashioned pre-telephone version of "The Telephone Hour" was like among the servants.
9 hours ago, BellyLaughter said:I can’t work out if I’m meant to hate Mrs Blaine or not?! Like is she just lonely and genuine or horny and using Larry lol
I'm going with she started out lonely and horny, but then developed a real relationship with strong feelings for him.
6 hours ago, BeatrixK said:Did anyone else audibly squeal when he touched her hand with his finger? I am SURE I scared my upstairs neighbor with my 'OHMYGAWDYESSSSS!!!!'
My wording and volume were slightly different, but pretty much the same reaction.
6 hours ago, BeatrixK said:Although Larry helped Marion after her Raikes break up...so I hope she provides Larry a shoulder because they need to be a couple!!!!!
I hope this happens. I always want to see more of the younger generation interacting. At this point, I do not see Larry and Marion as a romantic couple, but I do see them as friends. However, I would not rule out friends to lovers as possibility.
6 hours ago, BeatrixK said:I seem to recall it being explained she wrote letters to Whitterton after his wife died praising his art collection or something and developing a 'friendship' through that correspondence.
Yes, but I am not completely satisfied with this as the entire explanation. It feels like there is more to the story and I want to know what it is.
6 hours ago, Haleth said:She's an idiot to have tried to pull this off in NYC. She should have gone to Chicago to nab a millionaire, where no one knows her.
This would have worked really well. The only thing I can think of was that Enid Turner really wanted to show off her accomplishment and let Mrs. Russell know what happened and that she landed on her feet and then some.
5 hours ago, ofmd said:But I can't get over how naive he was about the whole affair. He may be inexperienced about relationships, but surely he knows the social norms.
He is a young man in love, and love makes you stupid. Love makes almost everyone stupid, so he is not alone in that.
4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:Bertha changed the dinner table seating. One staff member tried to correct her. George spoke to him sternly, and that’s it?
Yes, pretty much. No one is going to make a fuss or cause a scene in front of the other guests. However, that news will travel and gossip will reach the ears of almost every proper society hostess.
3 hours ago, rollacoaster said:Ok...Looooord, the Russell reunion got me tearing up over here! The raw emotion and passion between those two! His pleading for forgiveness! The way she exhaled and melted in relief in his embrace!
And the scene where he blocked that server at the fancy dinner, "Mrs. Russell is exactly where she should be."
I am so glad they are back together as the power couple I know and love. It's very strange to be rooting for him when he's trying to help Bertha succeed, and then in the same episode rooting against him when he's dealing with his employees/business matters.
3 hours ago, rollacoaster said:Peggy is such a sharp, bright, shining young woman. I want nothing but the best for her. I appreciate her storyline, but it feels kind of out of place among the more frivolous yet life and death sopa opera shenanigans of the rest of the show.
I like the juxtaposition of the storylines. There is such a stark contrast and it's fascinating to see two completely different events with different stakes happening at the same time.
3 hours ago, BeatrixK said:I don't think so - Enid doesn't have the social clout roots and can't do much for him. She, honestly, needs him more than he needs her because he can still provide her intel on her 'secret' getting out. And the very first time Agnes lays eyes on her at a society function...or if Mrs. Astor spills the tea on why Mr. Enid lost his Academy box and Agnes puts two and two together the former lady's maid she had Mrs. Russell sack and Mrs. Whittington are the same person...ENID (Horrible name but fits the character perfectly) won't get away from Agnes' barbs, and Oscar has to know ENID can't help him at this point.
Enid can't help him, but I can see Oscar doing it for the fun of it. Also, he may still want revenge because George did not allow him to court and marry Gladys.
4 minutes ago, chaifan said:My hope is that Agnes does something generous, spots some talent in him, arranges for an apprenticeship, something of that sort.
Because it's America, I want the show to tap into the myth that with the right combination of luck, talent, and skill, anyone can become rich. It ties into George's comment about fighting a war to get rid of titles and nobility. I want Jack to succeed on his own. Also, it would shock and appall Agnes if a servant did something on his own time that caused him to become wealthy enough to leave her household because he found better employment in another occupation, especially as a self made man.
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Can we permanently retire Helping Hands? The guest star had actual talent. It was such a waste of screen time.
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4 hours ago, Straycat80 said:
Enid! Turners first name is Enid. And Mr. Winterton didn’t know about her past.
I'm still mad we didn't get to hear the story, which I am guessing was probably close to the truth, that she told Oscar during dinner.
4 hours ago, ChlcGal said:I do wonder who told about her past even though it could have been anyone. It's not like she kept a low profile.
I have the exact same question. I'm not sure it's important, but it's something I'd like to know.
4 hours ago, ChlcGal said:Ada's engaged!!!! That was so sweet.
I agree. I was rooting for them so I hope the marriage happens.
4 hours ago, ChlcGal said:I'm so glad the Russells reconciled. I don't like it when they're at odds.
I root for the Russells as a couple. They are an unstoppable force when united.
4 hours ago, ChlcGal said:God help me, I even like Marian this season.
I think it's because Marian is a shipper on deck for Ada and the Reverend, and that's fun to watch. Also, they are giving her just enough to keep her in the story, but not making her the central focus, which works better.
4 hours ago, ChlcGal said:I'm even riveted by John's clock storyline. I really want him to figure out the issue and become well-to-do:)
Me too. It's a D plot, but I'm oddly invested in it.
3 hours ago, AntFTW said:I was onboard for all the tomato-throwing at Marian last season but her and Ada are just so cute plotting together! 😭
It's fun watching Marian be a shipper on deck for Ada, but also having the young student play shipper on deck for her widowed father and Marian.
3 hours ago, Sailorgirl26 said:I also love that they just gave into the soapiness this season.
Honestly, me too. Maybe that's part of why this season is so much better. They have fully embraced the over the top soapiness of the upper class storylines.
3 hours ago, chaifan said:I am loving the story line with BTW, though, and loved the dinner discussion. I felt both had valid points.
It reminded me of One Night in Memphis. All of the different perspectives and how to deal with being Black and trying accomplish something in a White dominated/controlled world.
3 hours ago, chaifan said:I was actually hoping it was going in a different direction, that Enid would approach Bertha with a deal - Enid would change her support to the Met if Bertha would back Enid's story about being a "companion", not a lady's maid. I think Bertha would go for that.
If Enid Turner were smarter and more like Bertha, that's what she would have done. However, Enid is not nearly as clever as Bertha. I agree with you that Bertha would have gone for the deal.
3 hours ago, Sailorgirl26 said:And George totally paid to get the Met back on track. There is nothing he wouldn't do for Bertha. We should all have a George Russell in our lives.
YES! This is part of the reason why I love the domestic side of him. At work, he's a horrible robber baron, but at home he is almost the perfect husband and father. He supports Bertha and will try to move heaven and earth to make her happy and give her what she wants.
3 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:I noticed that when Agnes dined alone, she still had three different wines. No gilded age equivalent of a tv dinner for her!
This makes me wonder, what was the gilded age equivalent of a tv dinner? A sandwich?
1 hour ago, RachelKM said:Lady, divorce is a thing in this era.
Only if one party can prove infidelity during the marriage or both parties agree to a lie.
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21 hours ago, Nozycat said:
Yeah that's what I think too and am surprised at people saying they didn't do that. This is the first ep I sort of liked, but still not as good as the original for me.
Frasier and Lilith argued and traded cutting remarks all through the original series. To me, the big difference was it was just the two of them alone or among another adults. I do not remember them going at each other that way when Freddie was in the room. I agree with your overall assessment of the episode.
20 hours ago, shapeshifter said:I do see David as a sort of Cousin Oliver, in that Frasier and Allan (and Lilith) are now senior citizens, so David is (to me) a less mature version of Niles.
Freddy too is younger than Frasier was, and although he is not like Frasier was, he is not entirely different either — as a son might be IRL.🤷🏻♀️I would be okay with David as a less mature version of Niles. I am not okay with David as an overgrown child. Show me more of the version of David who was running the trivia game and less of the version of David who was mistaken for an orphan when he visited the firehouse.
I thought Freddie in this series was pretty close in age to how old Frasier was at the start of his series (the original Frasier).
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On 11/12/2023 at 10:40 PM, Straycat80 said:
I’m shipping Ada and the Rev to get together. I think Agnes is jealous. Wait until she finds out they’ve seen each other behind her back.
I'm shipping them too. I think they're a perfect couple and they'd be good for each other.
On 11/12/2023 at 10:58 PM, AntFTW said:Turner must have really liked this other servant to keep in touch with him and tell him the details of how she met Mr. Joshua Winterton.
I think part of it is the human desire to have someone to tell good news to. Since she did not have close friends and may no longer be in touch with family, he was the best option.
On 11/13/2023 at 2:14 PM, Affogato said:Larry is having a fantastic adventure in Newport, if he can manage not to mess it up. Also, classic. Widow and virgin thing.
I think the problem is going to be she wants a (summer) fling, and he is going to want marriage and a real future with her.
On 11/13/2023 at 8:24 PM, kristen111 said:Tina. Couldn’t resist.
I get the joke, but a given name of Christina with Tina as a nickname sounds plausible.
On 11/13/2023 at 9:26 PM, sistermagpie said:But nobody has the natural authority of a Carson or the housekeeper at Downton. Maybe that's part of it, that the younger members of the staff just don't seem to have any natural respect for others in the staff, because they don't have the same cultural history.
I think that's it. The younger servants do not see this as the rest of their life. They are aware that they have options. I think Jack has far loftier expectations/dreams than any of the others.
On 11/14/2023 at 12:14 PM, sugarbaker design said:I like the fact that George Russell is a doting husband, protective and loving father, yet is also a 100% robber baron asshole. Such an interesting character.
He is ruthless. We've seen it dealing with the world of high society, especially the women, but we haven't seen it in his professional capacity yet.
On 11/14/2023 at 1:20 PM, Tango64 said:So George's strategy was to bring the union rep fighting for the poor working man to his luxurious home, treat him to a lavish luncheon, show off all his ostentatious lifestyle... and confirm the guy's impression that George is just an out-of-touch asshole who doesn't care about anyone else as long as he can live like this?
No, the plan was to show him the wealth and power George had and if the union man played ball, some of this could be his. George didn't count on the union man having ideals, principles, and being a real believer in a cause.
On 11/15/2023 at 2:52 PM, RachelKM said:Poor dude. Little does he know that seeking Agnes's support, assistance, or even input is the surest way to pique Marian's vague but persistent contrarian impulses.
Unless Agnes knows the best thing to do if she wants the relationship/marriage to happen is to discourage Marian.
Also, I think Marian works better when she is not in plot lines of her own but tagged into other people's stories. Less time spent on Marian and more time spent on other character's plot lines makes for a much more enjoyable and better series.
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3 hours ago, benteen said:
Interesting idea. The character of David might just have benefitted from that though you risk a Cousin Oliver situation. He feels like a fifth wheel on this show despite their being six cast members.
It's not a Cousin Oliver situation at all. Cousin Oliver was brought in because the youngest kids were too old to be the cute little kid. Cousin Oliver was designed to let the writers/series continue to tell the same kind of stories they were telling. David is serving a completely different role.
I thinking take more before introducing David would have been a positive. It would have given the writers more time to figure out who the character was and what role he serves in the story/series. It feels like they did not put enough thought into who the character was or fully develop him as much as they could have.
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On 11/16/2023 at 12:17 PM, Roseanna said:
Of course working as an art teacher one day in the week isn't an option, either, because she can't earn her keep.
My understanding wasn't that Marion was going to earn a living and spend the rest of her life as an art teacher. I thought this was something interesting to fill her time. An opportunity presented it and she took it. I do not see her actively looking for it or seeking it out, but someone may have mentioned it to her/asked her and she said yes.
On 11/16/2023 at 12:56 PM, Scarlett45 said:Agnes is going to use all her social capital to try to find her a 2nd or 3rd son in the proper social group who won’t mind her having no money and will appreciate her other attributes.
Is the idea the first son is going to inherit the business (or however the family originally made/currently makes money) so he needs the ultimate/perfect upper-class wife to fulfill that role? We know that is not who Marion is, which would explain why the 1st son is not a possibility. Or, is it the 1st son is looking for new money to add a quick influx to the family fortune? Is there less pressure on the 2nd or 3rd son in terms of who they marry, as long as they marry someone from a respectable background who will not cause a scandal?
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2 hours ago, benteen said:
The character of David is just not working and seems completely out of place.
This episode was the best use of David so far. He works best in small doses and for a quick joke or two. His line about the winner getting to solve increasingly difficult series of puzzles/riddles was the first time I really believed this was absolutely the son of Niles and Daphne.
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5 hours ago, nora1992 said:
In an already strong episode, Alan was the best part for me. The end credits film with the white suit and black cat and villainous expression made me chuckle. I can’t decide if raiding the ark or romancing the stone was my favorite reference.
Seeing Frasier and Lilith make fun of Allan's outfit and Freddie getting in on the fun was the first time I really believed that this Freddie is absolutely Frasier and Lilith's son.
52 minutes ago, John M said:Yes, Lilith and Frasier love each other and care about each other, however they are both also incapable of not pushing each others buttons, know where all the buttons are and refuse to stop when it goes to far.
I agree with this. Also, I think Lilith's best/best cutting insult was when she made fun of the ads that ran during Frasier's talk show and then claimed to have never seen an episode, because she knew saying she had never watched his show would be something that would upset him and hurt his ego the most.
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10 hours ago, TheOtherOne said:
I liked the callback to Freddy's goth past, even if seeing this Freddy opposite both Frasier and Lilith made it that much harder to believe this is the same character or that he came from these two people. I also appreciated how Lilith isn't as judgmental and disapproving of Freddy's life and career, unlike Frasier, which I would have thought she would be.
This episode was wonderful. The last time we saw Freddie he was a young teenager. People change so much between then and their 30s, so it doesn't bother me.
As soon as Lilith and Frasier started talking/arguing about who knew their son better, I instantly thought of the Friends episode "The One With the Embryos" which has the trivia contest and Ross playing host, and how perfect David would be for the way too into it Ross like gameshow host, and that's pretty much exactly what happened.
Eve's joke about Freddie turning 10 makes more sense later in the episode. It's actually kind of adorable. The bowling party is Freddie's chance to have the typical kid birthday party (with the more age appropriate twist of an open bar) he never experienced growing up.
If Freddie's firefighter friends knew who Lilith was, then she must have not only known about the lies he he told regarding his past, but was more or less on board with them.
Lilith was far more accepting of Freddie's change in life choices/career path than Frasier, which is interesting. This doesn't mean that Lilith immediately accepted it, but she is clearly on much better terms with her son and has clearly been part of his new life for longer than Frasier.
I loved Lilith and Frasier bantering/arguing, but there was something about it that bothered me. I don't remember seeing them go at each other like that in front of Freddie before. Maybe I'm forgetting an episode, but I never remember them behaving like this in front of Freddie on Frasier. When he was younger, they at least tried to be civil with each other when Freddie was in the room/within earshot.
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New trailer that actually makes it clear the new version is a musical.
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Does anyone know what the special features on the DVD are? I know the DVD has been released, but I cannot find a list of the special features.
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18 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:
They seem to be REALLY trying to hide that this is a musical. I think that could backfire pretty badly.
Especially since the fact that it is a musical is part of its reason for existing. It is not a shot for shot remake of the 2004 version. This is an adaptation of the Broadway Musical, which has some differences from the original movie.
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4 hours ago, mariah23 said:
Since Coyote vs. ACME is in the news, why not?
Also, TCM should get the rights to Looney Tunes to show on their channel! I won’t give that idea up!
TCM is part of Warner Discovery. I think the old Looney Tunes cartoons are also part of Warner Discovery, so it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do.
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7 hours ago, Camera One said:
In real life, June is 43 while Freddie is 36, so that's not too far off. I'm not sure how old Freddie is supposed to be on the show.
There's also a bigger age difference between Freddie and Olivia (head of dept) than Freddie and June, and I find the crush she has on Freddie to be rather cringey and unfunny.
In that case, Freddie and June dating would not make anyone look or think twice about the relationship. It's totally appropriate.
Part of the reason the crush Olivia has on Freddie is cringey and unfunny is that she is not attracted to him as a person. He's a hot firefighter. It's seeing him as more of an object than an actual person she is attracted to and would like to have a relationship with.
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On 11/7/2023 at 3:48 PM, paigow said:
ETA: Did the male Ski Instructor fall in love with Niles?
While the make ski instructor fell in love with Niles, Niles did not feel the same way about the ski instructor.
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The Holdovers (2023)
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I thought this movie was excellent. I loved seeing the relationships between the characters develop, grow, and change.
Did anyone else think that Dominic Sessa (he played Angus Tully) looked like young Donald Sutherland? It isn't just the hair, it's his build, the shape of the face and some of his features.
The movie looked and felt 1970s. It wasn't just hair, clothes, and music. There was something about the way it was shot (camera angles?) or how it was filmed that was pure 1970s. If anyone can provide insight into this, it would be greatly appreciated.