Haute Messe

Especially with a last name like Hehner!

Ugh I am utterly ashamed to admit that I watched this train wreck. Everything about this show is so fake and over the top. And yet the most unbelievable thing to me is that these two imbeciles allegedly went to college.

I hope that Karen is not spooked by Miles' disclosure of his depression. I am not sure if it was a great idea to come out with it this soon, but I am annoyed with her for thinking that it is not a masculine trait. It is a chemical imbalance in his brain, and he is being treated. It makes me sad how little awareness and acceptance there is around mental illness in this day and age. Maybe she thinks assholes who have babies with a side piece while they are in a relationship with her are more masculine. FIFY I can't think of a word to describe Christina. But we better get her name right, or she will bite your head off! I don't know why the producers were interfering in that scene, but they are breaking the fourth wall a lot on this show lately! I can understand her getting a little impatient with Henry - he is giving her very little to work with, however, he does seem to be willing and is coming out of his shell. LOL when she fell off the paddleboard and he said he almost became a widow! I don't think it was any of her business to pull Olivia aside and dis Brett. If she actually had witnessed him doing something horrific, that would be a different story. She should mind her own business and focus on the red flags in her own relationship. Olivia seems to be badgering Brett and I don't like it. Give him a little bit of space, dammit. If he doesn't want to talk about their intimacy and rate his marriage on a scale among the others, that is his prerogative, ChristinA! He seems to have lost his sense of humour and it looks like he is clearly becoming uncomfortable with the filming process and I hope this doesn't turn into a Taylor and Brandon situation. I also think he must be somewhat intimidated by the difference in their employment income. I had to look up what an Irish goodbye is - makes sense! And if he was truly going to toss his cookies, that explains some of his dickish behaviour at the bachelor party if he was that drunk. I know I have done some mortifying things when I have been hammered. I am actually starting to warm a little to this bloke! And Olivia's intensity is annoying. I hope that Woody wasn't just playing Amani to get into her chastity belt. I have had that happen before where a guy does and says all the right things and as soon as they get you into bed, it's a different story. He still gives me fuckboi vibes. Amelia and Bennett are coming across as two 10 year old besties, having a sleepover in a fort. I just can't with all the quirkiness, and I don't remember seeing any signs of physical affection between them.

Yeah I didn't remember St. George being that far from SLC so that would be a long drive with two screamers. Moot point since TLC no doubt paid alll the expenses for the trip except maybe the corned beef.

They live in Washington, Utah, which is near St. George. So they flew from St George and likely had a connecting flight to Portland via Salt Lake City.

Asuelu was acting like a six year old spending his very first allowance at that Samoan store. No clue about the value of money. Considering that they had to take two flights to get to Portland, I don't think it would have taken that much longer to drive there. I am guessing that his sister probably lives around Vancouver WA which borders on Portland. It certainly would have been less expensive than airfare. I could have done without listening to Tania slurping down that tea. I was happy that Syngin finally told her to let him finish a sentence - I yell that at her every time she is on. They are doomed, and I was hoping that maybe he had only bought himself a one way ticket to South Africa, because he should not bother to come back to the US. Libby's family are a complete embarrassment and it should be double the fun when the rest of them descend in Moldova. She is spineless and although Andreii is rather defensive, she should tell her family to back the hell off. I can understand Angela being nervous about getting her results from the Dr., but lighting up while she was facetiming was not a good look. She may have received a clean bill of health this time, but next time may be different if she keeps up this lifestyle. I dislike Jess so much that I can't even get too upset with Debbie. And Colt is an idiot who deserves her. No words for this Larissa nonsense - I couldn't help wondering if she was reading some of those big words from a script. And as has been said, she would have been far better off to use that $10K on something like living quarters.

Agree. WTF did we do to deserve these useless barnacles? Sideshow Blob has put on the COVID 19.

Leah's first mistake was to come charging into this group like a bull in a china shop. We've seen this before - Kelly Dodd comes to mind. Then she takes absolutely no responsibility for her part in any of the actions that have pissed off some of the OGs. She is the victim every single time. She is a complete mess and is on a very self destructive path. I don't blame Ramona for walking out of that forced confrontation but it's unfortunate that she had to. Trying to talk to Leah was like talking to a brick wall. As for whether Ramona should have been discussing Leah's BPD, it doesn't sound like it has been a deep dark secret, and my feeling is that Ramona is just trying to rationalize Leah's bizarre behaviour. And for the 16th time this season, STFU and MYOB, Dorinda. She is disgusting.

Lol, Chuck ain't no Walter!

Love this.

Amen. Jessie has been rude and obnoxious to Debbie since day 1 and Debbie takes the bait every time. Jessie is another unreliable translator as we could see from the subtitles that she was embellishing what her father was saying. However, I do think the Colt and Jessie are a good match. Both are repulsive and I can't imagine either one of them have a lineup of other options wanting to be with them. Debbie is only involved to this extent because TLC thinks we enjoy this bunch of crap. I don't need to see any of them again, especially in ill-fitting beach wear. As for Asuelu and Kalani, I was under the impression that it is customary to send money back home to family in impoverished countries. Why would he be obligated to provide money for his family members living in the US, especially when it sounds like Mother Asuelu commutes back and forth between WA and Samoa? Impoverished people can't usually afford that luxury. If this is all TLC can come up with for HEA, this show should be dumped in the shitter.

This. She was responsible for Camille's reappearance as well, and I actually think I like her better than any of these other bitches now. And it is such a treat for us to be graced with the presence of TMCFR nearly every gawd-damn episode. Kyle's a genius. I hope that LVP is laughing her ass off at this shit pile.

Yeah, between the bacteria in his socks and her pits, maybe they could do an experiment and produce a penicillin formula or a COVID vaccine?

Thanks! Sounds like I should be grateful that we don't get it. I was having a bit of FOMO for a second.

What's this Unfiltered y'all are talking about? Is it part of the show? I don't get it on my Lifetime channel. The guests on both sides of Amelia and Bennett's wedding looked like they just came from a fringe festival. That unicycle was OTT. I did love Bennett's mom though. What was with Brett's parents not wanting to be on camera? His father sure didn't seem to have a problem with it in prior episodes. Maybe they don't get along and didn't want to be in the same room together. I hope that Karen and Miles make it. They are so pretty together, and both seem like nice people. I hope she is not just attracted to "bad boys". I am warming to Woody and think that he and Amani might work out. Christina seems like a pain in the arse. I don't see this one going well.

Yeah, Submit doesn't exactly have a great track record with truth telling, so I'm not really buying that either.

That David sure has some sense of humour, doesn't he? He is still living in a land of delusion. He says that Lana is not in contact with him - translation: not responding to him relentlessly stalking her. His reactions to the tweets are so defensive and childish, and he is proud as a peacock that he proved everyone wrong by the fact that a real person did finally show up to meet him. Even Yolanda has been able to make light of her stupidity. Rose is not nearly as funny as she thinks she is. And I was quite distracted by her blue-green tongue - maybe sucking on breath mints? Enough of her, and Ed for that matter. No more shower scenes and no more hair removal with a paint roller please, for the love of humanity. And free Teddy! I think Avery must have had a case of the munchies, but that ice cream bar did look yummy. I like her better high on weed than on rose. I am glad that Ash has a sense of humour at least., and that he got his thyroid issue sorted. I wish that Erica would realize that she is very pretty without the botox, fillers, makeup and hair. To me they don't add anything but again I think there is something deeper that makes a person want to stand out like that. The fact that Darcey doesn't think that there is anything wrong with her appearance or behaviour tells me there is no hope for her. I hope that her daughters have at least on parent who is not as shallow as a puddle. And Tom, please GTFO of our screens. The only time that you are entertaining is when you are not trying to be.

He said so himself that he was a fuckboi in his 20s. Not sure that phase has passed. It has already been said, but the dress she chose looked terrible with that jungle under her arms. I don't think that hairy armpits are a problem if they are covered by clothes, like the doily dress. She looked like a hot bohemian mess, and it appears that she doubled down with over-accessorizing the look on the wedding day. Christina seems rather high strung and high maintenance. I can relate to the dress pickiness and the anxiety. Olivia seems like a nice person but she needs to SHTOP with this speech thing that drives me nutso. Shtrangers, Shtress, shtruggle. Lots of them do it, but I really picked up on it with her. Enough! There is no goddamn H in any of those words! And once again, the criteria these 'experts' used to match these couples is a joke.

I am posting this before reading the whole thread so apologies if I am being repetitious. Brittany. Even if she was agreeable to converting, she would still be a loud, obnoxious self-centred self absorbed, entitled asshole. Did I her this properly - she said she is not a Muslim, she is a Black woman? What kind of ignorant statement is that - are you telling me that there are no black Muslim women in this world??? (someone please enlighten me if I am misinterpreting this.) I was not aware that the two were mutually exclusive. She should go back to the US and find some old dude who will put up with her princess bullshit and buy her $900 wigs. There, I think that about covers it. And Yazan's mom seems to have a bit of the crazy in her - I wonder if her parents were first cousins. I hope that Ari does go back home because I can't stand listening to her whiny voice. I think that Binyam is really trying to do the best he can, but her mother is right that this is no place to have or raise a baby unless you have no other choice. Deavan and Jihoon. He is the epitome of a giant lazy ass loser. We knew that he had absolutely no ambition, and now we learn that he can only work part time so he can rest whenever he wants. That right there is what you want in a partner and parent. I actually think he has very low self esteem and is possibly depressed. He might benefit from seeing a therapist. Jenny. Sumit is a bit if a manchild himself. He just makes all kinds of shit up to cover his ass. Glad that his friend was there to stand up for her. Yeah, the "Uh?" "Uh?" thing. My mom does it and it drives me absolutely bonkers but in her defense she is 86 and hard of hearing even with hearing aids.

That was actually my first thought too. They looked like tough buggers, whatever they were.

Thanks, it was kind of mean of me, but she is a very sweet tempered baby.

Yes, line of the night. 😂

Last night this show was full of assholes! Kalani and Asuelu I am not sure that Kalani picked Asuelu perse. She picked him to lose her virginity with, but if that hadn't resulted in her getting knocked up, I highly doubt that they would be together today. And they just compounded things by getting pregnant a second time. Now she has two toddlers and a baby. Yikes. I think it is time for some tough love from the enabling parents. I don't know if Asuelu has any skills outside the bedroom. His English is not the greatest, but he should be able to find some kind of employment doing manual labour. I wonder what Lo does to be able to support these barnacles? And although I am sure it's not a picnic looking after two kids in diapers, Kalani seems unmotivated to do anything to earn money. They are both pretty useless and clearly had no plan on how to make this work before bringing him to the US. Tania and Syngin And speaking of no plan, Tania keeps talking about her plans, but what exactly are they? She is all talk - literally - it was nearly impossible for Syngin to complete a sentence without her cutting him off. She just doesn't want to hear what he has to say, and he is completely over her, this marriage, and evidently the USA. He does clearly seem to have a drinking issue judging by the way he looked to be chugging that wine (although that definitely could have been the editors fucking with us). They are both lazy ass dreamers, who, once again, made no advance planning for this to have any chance at success. Libby and Andrreiii. "You shut up" "No, you shut up". Nice. He is a chauvinistic jerk, but she pushes his buttons. There was no reason for her to stir up shit at the breakfast table. Just say thank you for going to all the trouble to make this lovely meal. But Andrei is not exactly a reliable translator, so who the hell knows what he would say to his mom? He is most definitely the biggest asshole in this scenario and unless this is all performance art (which I suspect) this relationship is a fail. Colt, Debbie and Jess. I do not like Jess one bit, although she and Colt do deserve one another. Yes, Debbie is an overbearing wolf, but I would have been absolutely turned off of Jess with her and Colt's behaviour in the van as well as her comments about wanting to have sex before they even got to the hotel. Then Debbie goes to lie down after an exhausting trip and Jess will.not.leave.her.alone. Colt had to pull her out of the damn room. That isn't how I would try to impress my boyfriend's mother. Three strikes, baby! Larissa is nothing more than a cartoon character at this point. Pole and Karine. I must say I was amused by the supermarket trip and his extensive knowledge of feminine hygiene products as well as his supervision of the diaper change. They both would have been better off in the birth control aisle. And what was on those sticks that his mouth was wrestling with during the meal with Mary? I do feel bad for Karine being in a foreign place with no language skills, no home, a useless partner and a baby to care for. I actually think Paul's heart is in the right place but for some reason life skills do not come naturally to him and as hard as he tries, he just can't figure it out, but to his credit, he did manage to get himself to the Amazon, albeit with a camera crew. Again, this move required advance planning. Grangela and Mykull. Does he have a job in Nigeria, and if so what does he do? At least he has good command of the English language - I shudder to think if he had to learn it from her. I would have killed him if he tried to chase me around with a dead rat, but I actually do believe that these two love each other. We shall see.

I think it's unreasonable to want to take two babies during a measles outbreak with the justification that he wants them to learn his culture. I am sure they are really going to soak it up at their age. It is for purely selfish reasons that he wants to go now. And I can't imagine having to be a fellow passenger on a flight with Oliver screaming the whole time. I think that ship has sailed...

I really don't know how to diagnose Colt, other than a mama's boy and I think that some of these people are brought in from a casting session to amp up the drama. I thought those potatoes were Stouffers, but I am not too familiar with prepared foods. Those steaks were huge and not even half eaten. Debbie is loving this attention and is really hamming it up, in my opinion. There is no way in hell that she would be going to Brazil on her own dime. And I don't get this "Vernessa". Colt said they were inviting her for dinner as a thank you for looking after the cats. Then in the middle of dinner they announce to her that they are going to Brazil? Makes no damn sense, and unless she works on a corner of the Strip, I don't believe Colt slept with her unless he paid for it. I am sick to death of their asses. Angela - I don't like her either, but she is a peach compared to BGL. I have had that procedure and it is no joke. It hurts like a sonofabitch, and I wish I had been given some laughing gas. My OBGYN told me that giving me an anesthetic would hurt even more than the procedure itself. I assume she meant a local, because nitrous was never mentioned as an option. I can't wait to see Mahkul in his tacky tux and size 15W shoes. Princess Karine is showing her colours. Like some other of these K1ers, she must have thought she was coming to America to live in a castle in the land of milk and honey. Then she woke up and found herself with Pole and a nasty busted up car complete with French fries that were so old they had birthdays (lol Robert). And even this is better than what she left in the Amazon jungle. Turn that frown upside down and stop complaining, sister. Little Pierree is the cutest baby. Asuelo. No words for this ignorant moron. Where the hell does he think he is going to go? I am sure that Kalani is going to get a phone call to pick him up and she should just leave his useless ass wherever it is, but she won't. She is no prize herself but she is better off without him and I am sure her family will continue to support her and the kids. Andrei's family seems too normal for all this. It was like a breath of fresh air to see them without the "critical crew" of ugly Americans that is Libby's toxic family.