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Thanks! Hadn't seen this yet

Looking forward to the show coming back. We don't know who the big bad is yet, right? I know Jesse said to expect the reverse flash so perhaps he's the big bad of the last graphic novel?

I think Barry got his powers in 2014. If the events of the pilot after the timejump take place in oct, then he also got into a coma in 2014 It'd be interesting to see a flashback to before Barry got into a coma. See what everyone's life was like before all of this happened

I hope I'll be able to write about the things I liked and the things I had issues with later or later in the week, but ... I actually quite enjoyed the episode. I went in knowing what happens, though. I actually think love being so important makes sense with how they've built up the story, though some of the dialogue could have been more natural Faults and all, from these first 3 episodes, this is the one I have the feeling of wanting to rewatch Anyway, hopefully more later!

Yeah, a small tease would have been nice. It does seem like we know so little about season 7 after they wrap up the season 6 arc. Hopefully we'll get some interviews now that the season 7 premiere is so close

I like that trailer a lot! And I like that the connection between Barry and Iris is very clear. Would have been nice if they teased the villain for after this arc, I think a lot of people are curious about the new arc and it would get people talking probably, but It might have been too much for a trailer? Looking forward to the new season. I've missed the show

I don't think there's been an official announcement (?), but according to this article from hollywoodnorth (yvrshoots) :

The panel was a bit short and we didn't really learn much new things (from the panel itself, the trailer had a lot of info), but it was nice to see the cast and Eric talking. I hope they also did/will do individual interviews like during comic con I thought the trailer was really good. I thought they made good use of new and old footage and dialogue to bring it all together. It's not the most spectacular trailer they've ever done, but it really makes me look forward to the new season. Especially since all that new footage is only from one episode. Curious about what is going on with Iris in the mirror.

TV Panels at DCFandome The Flash panel description says there will be a trailer. Candice will also be on another panel, and Eric will also be part of another (different) panel.

Not my full thoughts yet, but let me just start with that last scene. Wow, cried my way through it. Even with Barry and Iris not actually interacting it was still very powerful, or maybe it was made even more powerful because even without knowing they were still saying the same things. I've been listening to that song this week. (Speaking of, does anyone know if it's more expensive to use songs or to have them write music for the scene? I've noticed they started using a lot more song this season)

WE CALLED IT!!! ~😊 ~ I hope that real Singh is ok ( the succes is assured line is I think there to make clear that it's a mirror version) Trying to stop Carver in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, but keeping people trapped in the mirror while you let mirror versions live their life (and in some cases actively try to destroy those lives) is pretty not good I know people don't like the standing around in star labs situation, but I've come to the conclusion that I miss team flash working as a team on missions. I get what they're trying to do with separate storylines and giving everyone something to do, but they could do different things while working towards the same goal. Because now usually no matter how dire the situation of the A plot is there are some characters off doing other things. They don't really work as a full team anymore on anything. Maybe every few episodes we can have something that everyone works on? I was hoping to really like Sue and Ralph's journey...and they definitely have potential, but I'm not fully convinced yet. Maybe it's more that I don't have any 'I really want them together!' feels yet. I thought the heart to heart scene was a step in the right direction (even if I kept thinking it was going to be another double cross). Still, I think it's a good thing the show is trying a different type of couple dynamic. People have mentioned the batman and catwoman dynamic when talking about them and that seems to fit, at least for now. I know it's not to be taken seriously and the scene was funny, but I didn't really like how they wrote the Cisco and Sue interaction. For Cisco, It felt too much for someone with a girlfriend. It was nice to see a Cisco and Ralph team up, though The fight between Barry and Siri was brutal, though since it's not real Iris it's easier to brush off than the one from last year. Hopefully there is more real Iris in the next episode Altogether, a pretty OK episode (even if I really miss westallen)

Where was Ralph? He's only been in 1 episode in 6b. I don't get what is going on with the regulars this season. I think the mirror plot is cool, but I think they could be doing so much more with the other side of the mirror. We could be seeing Iris on this entire journey on the other side exploring that verse, finding mirrors, trying to get out, but so far it's mostly been her in that room and their solutions have been very conversation - try - fail - conversation. There was something off about Singh this episode. About Iris' reaction, when real Iris has had a chance to react so far to seeing Siri with her family it seems her main concern has been that they're being manipulated and not that they don't know (in 6x11 while she yelled it wasn't her, first she yelled at Siri to get away from him, in 6x14 my impression was that she was mostly concerned for them). I think we'll get some plot on that, though, if only because Eva herself seems to resents her husband and ever so subtly seems to be trying to push Iris in the direction of resenting her own family (I hope your family doesn't forget you as quickly etc). For me, I'm not mad at Barry (and personally I'm not at all into the idea of a big how could you not know it wasn't me storyline) and I think it should certainly be noted that Barry is also being harmed by Siri's actions. I think everything so far makes sense as to why he hasn't caught on. As someone mentioned, he almost immediately noticed something was off but got so much backlash that ironically he now feels questioning any change in her is him being a bad, unsupportive husband who won't let his wife grow. So on the level of the story they're telling I understand. That said, from a writing perspective I don't think it's an ideal choice, especially not for Barry and Iris and how they've been portrayed previously. Barry and Iris have very much been written as a soulmate type couple in previous seasons, and I think things would look different if they'd written in accordance with that for this arc . Or they would at least have more scenes like Barry somehow sensing Iris looking at him and things like that. To be fair, they did actually write that scene with him sensing her looking at him and I'm expecting some payoff for the lightning rod mentions. Which if done right could go some way in making me feel better about the way certain things have been handled. Perhaps it's the romantic in me, but I like I said above I understand and agree with every explanation, but I just want him to feel instinctively that it's not her. And to be fair, they have actually written Barry feeling it's not Iris to some extent, Barry has been acting different not just in scenes with mirror Iris (which btw have a subtle strain to them, which is great acting on the part of both Grant and Candice), he seems to be distancing himself from her in his overall behavior and who he confides in, maybe not consciously. But if they wanted to go that route they should have made it more clear. I understand that especially this season they are doing a slowburn on a lot of things and trying to be more subtle than maybe they have been in other seasons, like they had Barry have little things off about his speed in different episodes without immediately commenting on it and explaining it. But this is their main couple, I wish they'd take a little more care in both larger and smaller things. Barry has been spiraling this second half of the season, he's all over the place, and yes, crisis changes and the speed force are a big part of that, but they could have used the opportunity to also tie it to Iris being gone and him unknowingly reacting to that (and maybe they will) To reiterate, the mirror plot is a cool, I just wish they'd take a little more care in how they handled Barry and Iris in it. I don't mind Barry and Iris having obstacles like this, I actually prefer them having to deal with 'one of them is trapped' type obstacles, than things like their fight over Nora working with Wells, because it has the potential to showcase their connection, but that actually needs to happen. If one of the main couple is trapped like this, I want to see their journey back to each other treated with more care and frankly more importance than it's been so far. I expect we'll see it when it's the episode for them to deal with it and I'll probably love their moments, but it should be baked into the foundation of an arc like this.

I can't really see Siri (brilliant name idea!) as a just more assertive version of Iris. Even without the evil-ish look at the end she felt too manipulative to me, and a little callous. Especially about hitting the guy over the head with the bottle (not necessarily the act, since you can say it was undercover, but her attitude about it after). I just can't see Iris in that. With all the lying she did (about her arm which was clearly fine, for example) I can't see her not knowing she's mirror Iris/not the real Iris Speaking of, maybe I'm looking too much into this, but we know Iris can handle herself and she has been handling herself for seasons now. I know they played Barry's worry up in this episode, but the narrative that no one wants her to go out in the field because it's too dangerous hasn't been in the show for years. Not for Barry, not even for Joe I think. They even made a point in episode 10 to have Joe say he wouldn't ask her to stop. I think the last time it was kind of an issue is 4x16 (please let me know if I'm forgetting something!) and even then it wasn't about people not wanting her to go out in the field. Ralph said Iris was leader from behind the desk and never went into the field. Barry told her she didn't need to prove herself to anyone, but when she said she wanted to prove it to herself there was zero objection. So with the damsel line in the trailer I was kind of ???, but since it's Siri and not really Iris saying it, I guess tbh, I want people to think more about how Iris is doing, not less. I know she'll be instrumental in getting herself out of the mirror (and that is awesome, and I'm happy that Iris is such a big part of this story arc, and I'm intrigued by the mirrorverse), but what I don't want to see is the rest of the team, and especially Barry, going on with their merry way for episodes on end because they don't know a fake Iris is in their midst, while Iris is on the other side of the mirror fending for herself. About Danielle, she did audition. I remembered reading about it and in this article (which has transcriptions from a panel she did with David Rapaport on casting) she talks about auditioning (after the part in the article where Rapaport talks about how fast these things can go)

From her instagram videos it looks like Natalie Dreyfuss (who plays Sue) is doing some press for the next episode so keep an eye out for that. Also, looks like she's going to be on Afterbuzz after the next episode

Quick initial thoughts: ooof this was tough to get through because I was nervous about whether or not it was Iris. Halfway through I started to really hope it wasn't Iris, because it wasn't just Barry who thought things felt strange between them, and that Iris was strange, me too and the resolution didn't feel right. That's why I was relieved to see that it indeed wasn't Iris. I don't like that Barry can't tell it's not Iris, or rather that he let himself be dissuaded since he did feel something was wrong. But I can't really compare it to episode 7 since evil Iris was actively pretending that she was Iris (and being quite devious in manipulating im when Barry brought up how different she was acting) to the point that I also started to wonder, while dark flash was clearly and obviously dismissive and not really putting effort in trying to pretend to be Barry and it came on the heels of something happening with his mind. Not to take anything away from how great it was that Iris immediately knew, but I guess I can sort of see why in this case with nothing particular happened before it (that he knows of) why Barry didn't immediately think this was some pretender even if my shipper heart thinks he should have. I'd rather he'd caught on and I'm not sure how to feel about that he didn't (and I wish they didn't have a kiss between fake Iris and him) Moving on from that point, how does fake Iris know all those things about their relationship?