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I did not like Bernadette at all in this episode; I think it was the meanest she's ever been. I was glad she couldn't master the game right away and hope she never does. When she messed with Leonard at the end it really ticked me off.

I was just so ticked off when Torres kept whining about it just being a wall theft, nothing to see here, folks, move along. He should be reprimanded, if not fired. It's so unprofessional how he assumes the least so he won't have to exert himself. Gibbs is constantly having to get on them to do their jobs -- they are like little kids who just want to play. In regards to that, I was glad Bishop didn't take up the offer to paint earlier in the episode while she was on the clock (and wearing a white sweater). My favorite part was Gibbs eyeing that girl. He read her accurately from the start; no one else did.

I was, too, by the end. The receiver guy was trying to honor someone who wouldn't have appreciated the honor, if donor guy is to be believed. And while donor guy was willing to go against his inclination to do what was right, receiver guy wasn't.

I agree that Claire and Melendez seem headed for a collision, but for me it just does not work. Claire was willing to fool around with Jared without investing her feelings, but she is too much in awe of Melendez, I think, to sleep with him and not fall in love. He, on the other hand, is so supremely confident, I just can't see him falling in love with someone with confidence as fragile as Claire's. She's coming along, and standing up to him was a big deal, but I just don't seem them on the same level of...personal strength, to work out. He is so competitive, I think he needs someone to challenge him both professionally and personally, whereas Claire needs mentoring and nurturing. Claire does have strength, but she needs to play off people her own emotional age, not someone like Melendez who could always crush her if he wanted to. In my opinion.

As soon as they suspected that the violinist had a possibly dangerous infection, shouldn't they have called in an infectious disease specialist, or at least a doctor who was not a surgeon? This. Second-year residents would not have been handling such a complicated case alone, with no supervision or outside consultations. Thank you! That really took me out of the story. No way in hell they would have been making those calls on their own! Wasn't Melendez there initially? And they failed to call him back for further consult, which is troubling. I wondered why they couldn't find another means of testing for the dangerous infection without cutting off part of her finger thus making her unable to play; someone suggested testing the discharge -- why was that not an option? I loved that show Sisters. I don't remember Sheila Kelley in it, but I agree about the Botox comment for her and Sela Ward.

The last episode I've watched was with the tech company who shot at each other with antique dueling pistols. Suspected it was the girl neighbor, knew it when she came to the police station and flirted with Harley. Considering he is a bona fide TV star, it seems weird that other women aren't hitting on him, which made the girl's actions stand out. I'm okay with the girl cop friend staying platonic (it's a nice change of pace), and I still think his friend played by Kristian Bruun is the best part of the show.

He's pretty impressive himself -- I just read up on him.

I know! I have always LOVED him, but it's starting to feel...inappropriate. He seems more like a grandpa than a dad. Not sure I'm explaining myself very well, but I totally understand where you are coming from. Fornell still seems lively enough. Maybe it's just that the stories and lines are getting tired -- Gibbs hasn't done anything new in awhile. Even standing in as director has been done before.

That is the perfect word to describe him!

The whole Jimmy/McGee thing left me puzzled. So Jimmy knew it was McGee and pretended to be so upset to see McGee open the drawer? And McGee honestly thought Ducky wanted him to do something along these lines to Jimmy? It would have been funny if Tony did it, but something didn't work for me in this exchange. I liked that Jack immediately saw through the CIA guy and pushed back; I didn't like that Vance didn't do the same. When that guy started talking about his traumatic experiences, he should have shut him down right on the spot. I didn't get the Torres angst at all. Because he knew a guy who turned bad, he might turn bad? Okay, lose sleep over that, but don't bug Gibbs with it. I agree with Methought's post of "Torres telling Gibbs ‘you don’t know what it’s like to look in the mirror and see a killer’. " Loved the steely look Gibbs gave in return. Torres is such a probie compared to Gibbs.

My husband and I both burst out laughing at this, especially the two doctors standing there speechless. He nailed it. Is it even possible for brain surgery to impact only the area responsible for maternal feelings? I felt like this was lazy writing. I recall times on House when they stuck a probe in someone's brain and asked questions to determine what areas were being affected, but nothing so specific. Could they zap someone's brain and removed the area responsible for racism? Also, I thought it was unrealistic that the woman woke up from brain surgery, promptly and with no grogginess said she was hungry, her family bailed immediately, and she then indicated that her feelings about her son had changed. I realize they had to wrap up the story, but really?

Something didn't seem right to me when Claire and the blond doc presented the options to the rock climbing girl and her parents. Usually, it's "Plan A can heal you completely but has great risks attached, and Plan B is safer but won't heal you completely." Instead, it was like we can heal you completely or heal you enough that you can't do stupid things anymore, and they went with the later. I mean, why on earth wouldn't anyone choose the option that would heal them most completely? That said, I think the climber did have issues with risk taking and self-destructive tendencies, but it seemed like that could (and should have been) dealt with. She may have enjoyed the thrill of danger, but she had also been hurt many times and still could not stop going back for more. She was lucky to be on her parents' health insurance; she'd have a much different experience the hospital without it, and at 18 I doubt she'd be considering that. Also, I don't see the mother saying someday she'd be a wife and mother as projecting her values on her daughter. To me the point was that there are a lot of other experiences that the girl could go on to have that could be meaningful and rewarding to her as she matures, which she couldn't picture at her current age. But to purposely semi-cripple her to make sure she has them? I think she will find other ways to endanger her life and seek thrills, regardless of the type of surgery she has. I was annoyed that Park jumped to and pushed for institutionalization. Respite care would have been a better first step and offered immediate help to the family, but funding is tight for that kind of stuff. Loved the Gassman and Maddie story. I figured she was a suicide, didn't know it was an overdose. I hope he gets some closure from this.

I found myself quite annoyed by the agents sitting around doing nothing just because Gibbs was away. Don't they have enough work to do? I kinda cringed at Torres dancing in front of Bishop; unpopular opinion here, but I find Torres cringeworthy most of the time. The situation with Jack and her friend was just weird. The whole episode was weird. The only parts I really liked were with Fornell.

Huh, perhaps. I thought he was with the district attorney's office and was arguing against her and that she was representing herself. I thought he started feeling attracted to her and so advised her to appeal later, but she kept going until she was held in contempt. At least that was my take, could be wrong.

I thought it was incredibly unprofessional and irresponsible of her to slink out of the office and leave things in the hands of two residents after both telling them to call and discouraging them from calling her with issues. That she is an ER doc and rides a motorcycle at 100 mph, sasses judges and hooks up with opposing counsel, all made me roll my eyes. She said she's hoping for a promotion -- after the poor judgment she showed, I can't see any way that she deserves one. I liked the character last year and thought she was a good role model for Claire, but no more. When Claire was sent out to talk to the patient, I was shaking my head. I said they are sending her out because "she's good at that." My husband was all, what's wrong with that? I had to explain to him it doesn't matter that she's good at it (and why is she so much better?), it's that it's the job no one wants to do, and they make her do it because she's a woman. I thought it was cool at the end when Melendez said he'd go talk to the patient and she could oversee the closing up of the surgery. I also thought it was really cool that Claire insisted on making the decision (is that even a thing, that a doc can say, "the patient's spouse told me it's my decision") and that she took a long moment to make the call. Stepping back from the drama, I couldn't see that they would risk her life over retaining her ability to deliver a baby later -- I thought that sounded weird even in the previews. It was a bit of a slap in the face to all the people who become parents in numerous other ways. Have to address the point that House was always obnoxious -- yes, but he made up for it in myriad ways that tempered his behavior, at least for this fan.

I couldn't believe they just waltzed right in. Such sloppy writing.

I can't stand the way the agents all seem to whine at the crime scene. I tried to recall (and did) if Tony whined -- he did, but he also stepped up to the plate. These guys were all looking for excuses to get out of doing what they were obviously going to have to do -- deal with the crime scene -- until Gibbs got on them. I just don't have a lot of faith in any of the three of them getting the job done, without Gibbs on the case. I'm tired of Torres most of all, and I really, really don't want to see a romance between him and Bishop. It would be more interesting if she didn't return his feelings and he had to learn how to deal with the situation. I can hope.

ON 10/3/2018 AT 3:15 PM, KICOTAN SAID: Plus, her equating having a functioning clitoris, (which may or may not give her sexual pleasure after everything she’s been through) to experiencing “love” made me throw up in my mouth a little... so yeah that storyline left a bad taste in my mouth. While I had complete and total sympathy for the teen girl, I was particularly offended when Dr. Lim equated the ability to have sex with the ability to experience love when the girl's mother was apparently able to love the girl's father, despite going through the same experience. I don't mean that I think that female circumcision is a good thing, not at all, but I felt that Dr. Lim was imposing her values on them.

Maybe. Maybe not. House would probably appreciate Shaun's intelligence and gift for practicing medicine, and much of House's gruff would probably blow past Shaun, who would see that House is often right and often does the right thing, even though no one around him thinks so at the time.

After reading all the posts, I find I agree with most of them. I was annoyed that Lea came back thinking everything would be peachy, but I get that she doesn't understand all that Shaun has been through and I don't blame her for being clueless. She can do better, hopefully she/they will. I don't need romance between them but don't care if it happens, but I really just want to see Shaun and Claire be good, true friends -- seems like what both of them need the most. I was mostly outraged by Claire telling Shaun how to feel about Lea. That was so condescending of her. Jared did it as well in the last episode, telling Shaun he had to be be with Glassman without any regard to Shaun's feelings on the matter. It's ironic that autistic people are known for not seeing other people's perspectives, yet it's the neurotypical people who fail to see Shaun's perspective. They take it for granted that their view of the matter is correct over Shaun's and then are surprised when they finally get his viewpoint. I think there is as much room for growth in how these people interact with Shaun as there is for Shaun in how he interacts with the world. With the teen girl story, I thought it was pointless for the social worker to wake the girl up and ask her, while she was in pain and her parents were standing nearby, to make such a big decision. I feel like there should have been no biased bystanders in the room. I am glad things worked out for Dr. Lim and her patient, but I kind of feel like Dr. Lim was almost as presumptuous as the family. I think that girl is going to need all kinds of therapy and isn't going to waltz off to have a happy sex life after all this.

I was so looking forward to this season starting, but I was less than enchanted with the first episode. It seemed to me that the nuances that developed in the characters' personalities last season had evaporated. I was so annoyed with Andrews that I questioned whether I could keep watching (but I will). I found it kind of odd that they brought Jared back this season just to send him off and thought perhaps he's not really gone, maybe something will work out and he will come back, a la Lea? Although their last conversation had me shaking my head -- she asks him to stay knowing he has no job opportunities except the one in Denver? What was she thinking? That he'd flip burgers and hang around to be with her, when she was never sure until now that she even wanted him? Reznick has no redeeming qualities, in my book. She is another annoyance that detracts from my enjoyment of the show, as I can already tell the new oncologist will be (was never a fan of Cuddy). I found the whole interaction with the heart transplant patient totally unrealistic. That the surgery was set up by Andrews, who was motivated by publicity, before Melendez could establish a relationship with the patient was unbelievable to me, but when Melendez went to see her and told her there was a hitch but they'd worked it out, so see ya on the table was even worse. The son had to stop him and ask some obvious questions, like does this mean there's a bigger chance of failure? I would expect a surgeon to take the time to say those things to the patient. I get that there are time constraints and this is a TV show, but it was all handled so superficially that it left me unengaged. Basically, the whole struggle over the heart patient showed that everyone was concerned with image and personal power and that care for the patient's well-being didn't come last but wasn't even on the table. That was contrasted with the case handled by Jared and Shaun, of course, which helped. I don't like the feeling that all these successful people are motivated only by ego strokes and not by some passion for treating people. Even the hospital administrator lady was telling Andrews, go manipulate Melendez into doing what you want, that's what Glassman did. Did she even know what the surgery entailed or care about the risks and potential outcome? Again, not even on the table when it came to considerations. I want to see more glimpses into the better natures of these doctors. Last season this show was feel good TV for me, but last night wasn't, so much.

Yeah, I thought giving up tenure was kinda crazy, too. They didn't look that far off from retirement age, so they could have postponed the move a few years. I thought the woman was a bit pushy, especially when she asked the agent who was the boss in her relationship, and she rather embarrassedly replied, "both of us."

I think I watched the first episode of Orphan Black and it kinda freaked me out, lol. This show is much more my speed, and I agree, it's a mood lightener, which I appreciate.

I've only watched the first two episodes, and so far I like it although I don't love it. I was not familiar with Kristian Bruun but am loving him -- seems like he has the best lines, or at least the best delivery of his lines. He makes me laugh out loud. I tuned in after watching (and liking) Jerry O'Connell as Sheldon's brother on TBBT. I wish he was a little less goofy here but all in all, I like it. I hope it doesn't get cancelled.