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Exactly! The story blows up because of the lie. Lies will always make things worse.

YES!! ...even loved by our favorite catfish...until someone pointed out to "him" that they aren't vegan.

While my professional days were spent as a Baker and cake designer...I am a classically trained Chef. You don't put "last nights leftover roast" or cheese onto a mandoline. Especially the cheap thing featured in the accompanying photo. Just sayin'

Yes, I've thought this as well. If it happens on camera (which I really doubt) they will have to be supportive, but that makes no guarantee once the cameras go home. I have read that the LDS preaches "it's better to be dead than gay" to their young people and teen suicide rates are much higher in Mormon communities and universities than the national averages. The LDS church puts a whole lot of their members' tithing monies into fighting against gay rights.

The "that's what she said" joke has been around since long before me I think. I don't know exactly where it comes from, but I can remember teen boys thinking they were really funny using it. It's just one of those juvenile male jokes...but I think it was made more mainstream through The Office show. It's an American crass version of "innuendo" I guess. Usually when a guy says something that has nothing to do with a sexual comment...but if taken out of context can be turned into a crass sexual comment with the addition of "that's what she said", cue the drum...ba dum bumm. My husband is now having a lot of fun with "that's what my other wife said"...he will quickly run it in the ground I'm sure, but we had a good laugh. :)

To carry on the theme of parallels between Kody and Michael Scott from another thread... My husband and I were making fun of the show. He doesn't watch except for when I show him a wtf type clip and we talk about the absurdity of it all. We were talking about the Kody/Michael parallel when he was shooting out polygamous versions of "that's what she said". Michael's favorite one line sexual joke. so.....he came up with a Kody version of "that's what she said".... ""That's what my other wife said!!""

Christine's mother made her wedding dress, I've done quite a bit of clothes sewing in my life. I suspect that it was made quickly and cheaply.

You know...this is the usual disconnected storyline that this show seems to specialize in. On the show we see "coming soon....the big reveal" only to see what the big deal is through social media just a day later.

The most logical place I think is in his gun safe. I doubt the wives would have reason to go into that, none of them seem to have an interest that they have ever shown.

A quote near and dear to me, but I don't know who to credit...""He who laughs loudest suffers in silence"" I think Christine uses bubbly and silly to cover pain. She is a fully indoctrinated polygamist child (raised in a closed bubble) who has been taught women always "keep sweet" on the surface because that is the way it is. Yet she admitted at some point in a couch session that she had "cut back on the amount of depression meds" but not long ago made a comment about drinking her wine at bedtime. She learned right quick what jealousy and pain really was when she watched her "fun" husband fall head over heels with his new wife. Yes, this is what happened. Kody was put in charge of all the kids, but naturally passed the buck to Aspyn. YES! I was just watching this episode the other night. It does translate very very well. lolol

Yes, that little moment with Savannah broke my heart. She seemed left out and lost, disappointed and hurt to not be included. In a casual ceremony such as Maddies there is no reason that she couldn't have a role to allow her to stand out among the others.

I very rarely even notice anyones eyebrows. When Mariah decided to call out Meri on the way she kept or drew on her eyebrows I can remembering pausing the video to look closely. I didn't notice anything at all. But...Mykeltis eyebrows didn't just stand out...but they were huge. Closer to when Meri/Janelle tried to pick on Mariah in Hawaii and drew on large Groucho Marx eyebrows or something to be "funny"...they were just bad. They take away from her whole look because they just stand out way too much. As to having her wedding outside. In Utah. In December weather. All I can imagine is a Veruca Salt kind of scene. Hands on hips, stomping her foot and screaming...""I want my wedding outside! I will HAVE my wedding outside! I don't C A R E what anyone else thinks! I want it, I want it N O W!!""

I have always wondered if that wasn't the whole thing with the Lehi house. Janelle ponies up the dough to make buying it possible and it was the promise of her having her own autonomy (her own kitchen) and the family can live as one, but Janelle is free of the sharing the kitchen and what not with Meri. Janelle was producing sons, Kody's favorite sons, so he would be motivated to keep her within the family. She also had the ability to bring in a better income than the other wives. I also believe she had the bigger section of the house. Only fair because she had the most kids (at the time) and also was the only reason they could get that house.

I really really think the whole Strive thing is simply a slapped together business plan put on the books for a tax write off. Something to have in place to claim when the inevitable bankruptcy happens. I suspect that the "mysisterwivescloset" is something similar. I have always had in the back of my head that the real reason that Kody swapped marriage certificates is so that Kody/Robyn can set up a bigger purge with a bankruptcy than Robyn can alone. They get the whole "divorce and adoption" plotline for the show and later they are aligned for financial finangling, just like they have always done. They have washed themselves of the Lehi house...I'm sure Janelle is thrilled her money went to such a successful investment.

Janelle is very quiet about her own upbringing etc. I'm sure there is something there that makes her the way she is, beyond just the "quiet gene" kind of thing. She has alluded to really loving the loud chaotic family, but she seems to love it from the outside almost, being a quiet observer within the chaos. She belongs, but she doesn't. I think it's interesting, and it may be editing for all I know, but when Maddie announced her relationship and then engagement etc, Janelle didn't really mention her dropping out of school to follow a guy. Didn't bring it up. Yet when they are sitting there with Mykelti it was Janelle who said "Oh, you have to stay in school, are you staying in school in St George?" So why is she so concerned with Mykelti in school, but not her own daughter? When Maddie announced she was going LDS, Janelle immediately asked if it was because of "some guy". I think they have been a bit quiet of Maddies own boy crazy traits. What I am really confused over is when they were discussing "staying in school" for Mykelti (again not really mentioning Maddie staying in school) on the couch, Robyn went on and on about how Mykelti already has "so much into school, she's almost done and ready to graduate". Um...how? At 19...how does Mykelti have enough credits into school to be able to graduate, and with what degree? The show had her living with her sister for one year, going to school, before the whole "college is hard" and Mykelti wanted to move home, Christine said no...and then Mykelti goes off to St George to "grown up and find herself". I also was surprised when Janelle stated that she dropped out of school herself after marriage/kids came along. I was under the impression that she was the only Brown with a degree, in bookkeeping or accounting or something. Yes, I think there is a whole lot more to Janelle than she lets on...even to herself I imagine.

Bigamy is illegal in all states in the US. You can not legally get married to more than one person at a time. However if you choose to live with two related or unrelated people and the three or more of you choose to live a life that would be a multiple marriage, that is up to you. Marriage is truly the commitment that you make with another person or in the case of polygamy, people. The legalities and the legal things that come with those legalities are what is governed. Utah is the only state (because they wanted to prove that they were completely against polygamy that was openly practiced) that added cohabitation to their state laws to be accepted as a state. That is what polygamists do. They only have one legal marriage and the rest of the wives either live in completely different homes or they "cohabitate". One man living with several women that he is not related to....well, not closely related to. This is what Christine speaks of when she describes her Grand parents going to jail for "being polygamists". They used to actively prosecute the cohabitation laws, and when Kody did his lawsuit it was the cohabitation laws that he was trying to overturn. In the modern day I'm sure children are still taught like Christine was. Fear the outside, be fearful of speaking about your family because the boogey man evil outside world government is gonna come and take you in the night...because you are polygamists!!

I noticed this too. He comes at her like he is going to shove his face into a cherry pie at a pie eating contest and she always backs away. That is NOT a sign that "he's safe, he will protect me, I love him" Her words to describe him, and her feelings just don't add up with her body language at all.

Yes, I thought this too. I raised two kids...if you want to know if the other is going to be bothered by something...geez! Just ask. There, problem dealt with, move on. Janelle has just hammered and hammered it in the couch talks. Maddie isn't going to like this, the other siblings are going to be so upset by Mykelti trying to somehow destroy Maddies specialness. Gggaaaa So call one of your GIANT family meetings where the kids really don't pay much attention and have a great big pow wow about the siblings' "fillins". I'll bet none of them give a rats ass about any of it.

My perimenopause began when I was 36-37. I've actually had conversations with my husband very similar to the conversation that Janelle and Maddie had while making the dreamcatchers. I was so fixated on a subject that I couldn't seem to think through it, and I didn't necessarily follow exactly what my husband said to me. It made him a little more than irritated at me. Maddies reaction about the whole " MOM! you can't go fishing the morning of my wedding" was a similar reaction that my husband has given me. We now both recognize when I'm focusing too much and have brain fog, but for awhile it led to a lot of irritated conversations between us.

I agree. And the fact that when something comes up, and emotions come out of her...her reaction is quite fascinating. It's like she doesn't even know what is happening to her. It's as if she has suppressed emotion as a defense mechanism for all these years and just can't handle them when they do surface.

I'm not a 100% sure how old each wife is, but I'm sure the original three are somewhere near/or under my age (I'm 49). I have been flirting with perimenopause for quite a many years now and in the last year or two I have had to take some very solid steps to be sure I keep up with my diet and vitamin/supplements. If I fall behind, or have a rough month I can sink into a pretty weird brain fog. I get scatty, some days very scatty. I have caught myself saying things that don't make a whole lot of sense and I tend to lose focus easily, or the opposite...I can hyperfocus. Often in the wrong direction. I recognize this in me...but it took time. I've watched this show from the beginning and I agree that Janelle is just out there these days. She sometimes seems like she is shopping for her own planet a little early. Either she was always a scatty person, and the editing is bringing her true personality to light...or her Crone days have arrived! Three wives in menopause/perimenopause at the same time. lolol there is something kinda funny about that.

Maddie tried on dresses and then ordered one. But the issue seems to be now that she is doing her fittings she has lost weight and had them take the dress in. Janelle mentioned that "Maddie stops eating and loses weight when she's stressed".

Personally I think Aspyn falls higher than the F list. Not because she is held in high regard, but because she is the surrogate head slave. She is quickly called in to "dill" with all issues regarding the children when her scatty father is forced to actually handle his children...but he obviously just can't "dill" with it all.

From the Mariah we have been shown on the show that is much more of what I would expect from her. The newer photos were a bit over the top, if she is lesbian those posts are certainly shouting it from the rooftops, however artistically shot the photos are. When the question was brought up in one of those Q&A's they did in the past that how would they feel if one of their many children were homosexual and Janelle immediately replied that with as many children as they have they are likely to have one or two. Then the subject really dropped. What a sad poetic justice that the roll of the dice just that it might be Meri's only daughter and while first denied the male child she obviously desired she was then denied the eight children to fill a giant house with and then denied the traditional carrying on of the families religion once Mariah decided against polygamy. Damn.

While Kody likes to be sure everyone is clear that he is a Fundamentalist Mormon and not a Mormon (I'm sure it only matters really and truly to people within those categories) the Mormon Church (mainstream one LDS) is very supportive financially to fighting any kind of rights for homosexuals. Some years ago they filtered a whole lot of member given cash to fight the California Prop 8, yet they don't have the heavy membership in California that they have in Utah and surrounding states. If you care to read online etc there is a lot out there on the extremes the church goes to including putting into young teens heads that "it is better to be dead than gay". I have read that the big Mormon universities have a higher than national norm of suicide. And Utah is supposed to have a higher than usual use of anti anxiety/depression meds than the national norm. I have also read that families can be excommunicated if they don't denounce homosexual children and vice versa with young people not denouncing homosexual parents etc. The mainstream LDS Mormon church is a powerful force with plenty of members filtering cash into the coffers to help back that power politically. From what I read of the church is that it is one heck of a big cult. On the subject of the question of Mariah and the linked tumbler....I glanced at it. Eww... While someone else went through and did find things that could possibly be linked to the actual Mariah Brown, I'm still skeptical. My daughter went through a long and painful few years in high school because of tumbler. She had a stalker girl who created endless fake accounts to "pretend" she was being victimized online. For several reasons she settled on my daughter and at one point made a tumbler in my daughters real name, stole photos from my daughters pages and did a whole lot of horrible things and made a lot of horrible posts. To this day she continues online going from person to person, putting out some of the most insane things. It's obvious that this poor girl is just not mentally stable but my daughter suffered greatly and finally took my advise and cut complete ties with tumbler, deleted everything and fortunately graduated and continued on to excel in university. It is just too easy to "mirror" these things online, so until something really concrete comes up I will be skeptical about that tumbler. In fact when all the catfish stuff was coming out last year with Meri and the fact that the actual person was many many different "profiles" online; lots of people were skeptical...I mean...who has that kind of T I M E to create and keep track of everything. I knew darn well it could be done because I went through it vicariously with my daughter. I saw upwards of 25 different profiles that my daughter traced back to the same computer and the same girl (she became quite the learned computer detective back then), all these profiles talking, crying, supporting each other...that is a level of disconnect that I can't quite wrap my head around. But it is out there, it exists. To not derail this post too much from the original intent....Kody even mentioned in a TH that he didn't "sign up for this" when he talked about seeing his twisted storyline on the front page of a celebrity rag in the supermarket check out line. Well...Kody....yes, you did. The problem was that they lived in their little polygamous fundie Mormon bubble. I'm sure they were mostly to completely unaware about this kind of thing happening to everyday people, let alone the crap that falls onto celebrities through social media. Judging by the kind of tweets they first put out and the tweets they now put out...even then they weren't fully aware of what they were in store for. Unhappy people say unhappy things. Happy people at home on a computer say unhappy or down right horrible things...and worse. They should have stuck with communal living and hired themselves a social media consultant to help them navigate the REAL world since they are really only interested in living in their bubble, but now they are so tied with a thick umbilical cord of cold cash to that "evil world of haters" that Kody likes to flip off on camera.