Milz

A sugar daddy borrowing money to pay for his sugaring habit??? He seems more like an artificial sugar daddy.

I'm probably completely naive about this, but I think the Donkey Kong reference is directed at Porsha's hairdo and her build. Porsha isn't a tiny, petite woman like Cookie or Tiana or Rhonda or Annika. She's big (note: "big" does not mean "fat").

And she ends up on a CBS Entertainment show like JJ. The revealing details in the halterview immediately brought Dr. Frank N. Futter singing "Sweet Transvestite" to mind.*shivers*

The reaction of the sons was funny. Jamal's mouth wide open and eyes bugged out. Hakeem turned away and couldn't even look. Andre looking horrified and trying to hide it by taking a drink. Don't get me wrong......I loved Nirvana. I liked Hole. Based on the last 10 years of Courtney Love's music career------I don't think she was imitating a washed up singer. (one album release between 2005 and now....) Also, I think her cosmetic surgery decisions over the years really destroyed her beauty. She's always looked like a heroin junkie, imo, but she was beautiful. Now.......

I huge piece of me was hoping Olivia was Lucious' "side piece" and Lucious is the baby-daddy. And then we could watch a Cookie-Annika beat down on Lucious. I agree Cookie was projecting her past. I think Cookie can see Jamal is moving in another direction from Michael and it would have been worse if she told Michael not to worry and everything will be okay with him and Jamal.

Mr. Milz said the same thing. With gay couples, does one partner take on the "traditional" male role and the other take on the "traditional" female role in a relationship? (Sorry if I've offended anyone but I don't know how else to put it into words.) Anyhow, I think Michael was upset because he could feel Jamal becoming more distant, hence his conversation with Cookie. And the way Michael just stood there on the other side of the club, separated from Jamal is very telling :-( I think Cookie's reaction to Michael's culinary school is spot on. Here's why. I think Cookie is the "typical" mom who thinks no one is good enough for her sons. As she told Jamal, she likes Michael but doesn't think he's on Jamal's level (read: doesn't think he's good enough for Jamal). Michael could be like Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates and I think Cookie still won't think he's good enough for Jamal. And I think Cookie feels the same way about Rhonda: she's not good enough for Andre/Andre could do better. RE: Courtney Love "playing" a has-been, drug addicted, artist? Not much of a stretch, imo. Hakeem: It would have been better if Jamal told him off when he (Hakeem) was sober. BBK: keep your hands off Porsha! Porsha has to stay Cookie loyal.

No, no, no! Porsha, please don't fall for BBK's hint of a higher salary! BTW, who is Porsha talking with on the phone? The snippets I've caught are like "That's what she said." or something similar to it.

Here's the entire sentence that I wrote: "I don't know if having an injured teen crawl his way uphill unaided is the best way, but it's better than killing a bunch of people to steal adrenal hormones to inject into your kid." So yes, it is my opinion. :-)

I've reserved a copy of the books from the library a day ago. They probably won't be in for another 3 weeks (interlibrary loan from another county). Mildred Layton..I can't remember if she was an alcoholic (or minimally alcohol dependent) in the book. But she certainly liked her cocktails. I always wondered if Daphne and Sarah met would they be friends. Granted Daphne was in Myapore and Sarah in Pankot, but I've always wondered that.

The Bruce-Alfred story was the parallel story to the Cranes. Both dads have sons who with traumatic experiences and want their sons to heal. Crane does it one way. Alfred tries it another way. I don't know if having an injured teen crawl his way uphill unaided is the best way, but it's better than killing a bunch of people to steal adrenal hormones to inject into your kid.

I haven't seen the 25th anniversary DVDs. But that would be interesting to listen to. Just stick with it Deanie: you won't be disappointed. After Daphne and Hari, the story shifts to Merrick and his relationship with Laytons and to Sarah Layton and her view of the last years of British rule in India. But the rape always looms overhead and plays a key role with the remainder of the series. The other thing that plays a symbolic role in the series is Edwina Crane's death. Also, in Episode 5, the piece of lace Mabel gives Barbie is very symbolic: "butterflies caught in a net". I think if they did JitC today, we'd be lucky to see Hari and Daphne's story at all. I think they would begin with Merrick asTeddy Bingham's best man and we'll only hear of Daphne's rape.

I hoped JJ would have explored what master's it was, because as far as I could tell it was a master's degree in mooching and fraudulation.

Bruce was already an adult when he adopted Dick. So I suppose the Graysons are in their teens or early twenties and haven't produced Robin yet. Speaking about superhero production, while I love that Barbara Kean hasn't graced our tv screens for 2 whole episodes, I fear that when Barbara breaks out of Stepford Parent's mansion, we'll have to suffer through 2 or 3 episodes of her. :-(

I didn't pick that up as a youngster in the '80s (I sound like the PBS commercials for Degrassi Junior High now!). But Speaking of Daphne, for the longest time I wanted to taste a Gin Fizz because that was the cocktail she seemed to favor. I finally did taste it when I was in college (I ordered cocktails to be different from the typical beer drinking co-ed). Sarah is likeable. Susan is more likeable than their mother and Aunt Fenny. I always hated how Mildred, Fenny and the other women treated Barbie. I thought they were unusually mean to her.

I don't know about spoiler tags? If you think it's necessary, go for it, unless the moderator has a suggestion. In the book, Daphne does see Parvati before she dies. And as soon as she sees the baby, she knows it's Hari's (which is a good thing, imo.)

I think it's pure gold. I love TaRhonda's acting and I love how Porsha is written.

The series is the dramatization of Paul Scott's Raj Quartet (The Jewel in the Crown, The Day of the Scorpion, The Towers of Silence and A Division of Spoils). I remember watching the series in the mid-80s when it was shown as MT repeats on my local PBS station (Pledge Drive, etc.). Over the years, I've watched it, again, on PBS and I rented the DVDs about 5 years ago. First thing's first. Could there be smoulderingly hotter ensemble of male actors on one MT program? Art Malik, Tim Piggot-Smith, Charles Dance, Nicholas Farrell, and Derrick Branche super-hot.

Good to know he's out of jail.

I thought Wesley Snipes was still in jail for tax evasion?

I love TaRhonda's ability to convey so much meaning with one look or one pose. I agree with CofCinci: a little bit goes a long way.

Are you watching Jewel in the Crown too? If you are, I'll start a Jewel thread. Anyhow, I remember watching Poldark during it's weekday afternoon run on MPT when I was a kid. Then about 10 years ago, I Netflix'd the DVDs and read the series (I got into a BIG problem with the public library system over that because I had to borrow almost all of the books on interlibrary loan and eventhough I returned the books, the loaning libraries never got them and I ended up having $100 + late fines.......)

Oh dear.......I can't laugh aloud because the waiting room is full of people......oh my.........

I'll have another stroke if the reply to "What did you say to my African Queen?" is "The same thing you said to my Queen Louisa!"

Exactly. I think he also forgot he was the one who didn't have the balz to tell Cookie their marriage was over face-to-face and sent little Jamal to do it for him.

If this litigant's name is Charlie Allnut and his girlfriend's name is Rose Sayer.......I'm gonna have a stroke!