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Me too. It was some really real crying, like she was trying to just get that one sentence out and couldn't. And worse, she was ashamed of herself for doing it and ran out of the room like a little girl who was embarrassed. She needed a big hug. I think Kate knows Luke's no good, but she's holding out hope. I don't agree that the experts need to go in and save her, since she's a grown woman, they've offered her an out before, and she's not in any immediate danger... but I do wish her friends/family/self-esteem could convince her to save herself.

Me too. Question #1: "Y THO"

Jasmine: "Tonight may be the night when we can finally be intimate with each other. Let me ask him an ill-advised no-chance-of-success question real quick."

Exxxxxxxxactly. Don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to, Jas. What praytell does she imagine she's done to break into 7+ territory? I was glad to see Keith taking initiative to learn how to cook something, but he wanted a little too much credit for this one meal and still talked about cooking like it was Kristine's job. "Now I can help you in the kitchen" is not as good as "Now we can cook together" or "Now we can share the cooking duties." @humbleopinion sorry about that, I needed to get that off my chest before I could post anything else about the episode. It's meant to be sang in G major. Many of the smartest people I know are divorced. I hope Kate gets a little smarter.

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There's not much the show runners can do about the tiny devices people may be watching on. Shows are meant to be watched on screens where the scene can be seen, pun intended. I watch on a 55", but on my screen the badge was a good foot and a half across. That's pretty deliberate cinematography. The opening scene (where these alleged secrets are kept) is beautiful. Maybe one of the most beautiful of the season, IMO: Shots of the now-desolate Purcell town: the street sign for Shoepick Lane, the No Trespassing sign outside Tom's "suicide" tower, the burnt and condemned elementary school Will and Julie attended where Amelia and Wayne first met, not one person in sight... the scene gently echoing Roland's earlier comments about how the whole town just died. ...Cut to a close-up of Wayne's badge (indicating his new life) as he walks across a beautiful lush college campus, people everywhere, a stark contrast to the place they started their life. He arrives at his destination at Kimple Hall and gazes proudly at his beautiful now-older and grayer but still just as beautiful wife, smiling at her even before she can see him. When she notices him, she is similarly happy. The entire scene is narrated by Amelia reading poetry she's passionate about (she caresses the pages as she reads as if thes nowhere she'd rather be than reading this book) to her class. Even the poem itself calls to the contrast between the schools/people they were in 1980/1990/present: This is the school in which they learn What am I now that I was then? May memory restore again and again, the smallest color of the smallest day Time is the school in which we learn Time is the fire in which we burn.

That's what I'm here for, folks: deep screengrab recon.

The bolded was shown at the beginning of the finale. It looked like every day he walked to her classroom to smile at her and bring her an apple, and they finally found their happiness after that conversation they both needed a drink for.

They were supposed to stop investigating the case and blame scapegoat Tom Purcell. Wayne pressured Roland into participating against his better judgment by guilt-tripping him over Tom's death. Harris James was never a suspect as far as the bosses were concerned, especially since it would incur the wrath of Hoyt Foods. Wayne and Roland went rogue hoping they could get a confession out of him that would save Julie. Burying him in the woods was their best option to not lose their jobs and/or be brought up on manslaughter charges and/or end up part of a Hoyt-brand chicken nugget.

Roland didn't go picking a fight with the intention of getting his ass kicked- he was sad and alone but mostly he was angry. He might've egged him into it, but Ugly Biker threw the first punch and became a mutual combatant. Basically, Roland went to that bar wanting to hit someone and he found a willing volunteer. Surely a few of us have "been there." We knew she was dead in 2015 because Henry mentioned Mom's funeral, and we know they left off in the 90s positively with plans to move on from the Purcell case (and we saw Amelia teaching happily at the school and Wayne the Chief of Campus Security, bringing her an apple/for the teacher.) I don't think there was any reason to feel their marriage had ended or been anything but happy since that conversation in the 90s.

She may have been a head-shitting "pretty bird" and he may have been a mean drunk who expected her to keep a house he "could brood in", but they had a deep affection and need for each other only they could understand (and both had trouble verbalizing.) I've seen stranger couples go the distance. Despite their best efforts to move on from each other they couldn't. Like they say on Brokeback,

Agree. This series isn't meant to be centered about the whodunit like Law & Order and CSI, etc.- that part's the side dish. In the Purcell case Amelia may have been the "truest" detective, not reined in by D.A.'s, police chiefs, and the like. I'll never forgive Wayne for not reading her book while she was alive.

And isn't it Bad Guy 101 to incinerate (or at least lock the vault door on) your Secret Kidnapper Dungeon when you abandon your palatial estate?

This was outside the gates of the Hoyt property. Personally I think if Wayne had realized whose home he was at and wanted to keep Julie's new life safe, he wouldn't have given the address to His Son The Detective Sleeping With a Documentary Filmmaker Obsessed With Solving This Case And Finding Julie for potential follow up. At the time he handed Henry that piece of paper, Purple had no idea what it was. (I'd say that's also why we got that ominous music when Henry did a double take at the address.. The poor Ardoins are about to get a lot more visitors than they bargained for.)

“What if it was all one long story that kept going and going until it healed itself?” Fantastic, Amelia. (Carmen Ejogo is magical in anything.) The shot of Wayne's eye watching his healed family, realizing who he'd found in Greenland-> cut to his breaking through his deep emotional cover and semi-proposing to Amelia-> cut to both walking into a bright light-> cut to tracking his enemies and disappearing into thick jungle IMO, it's symbolizing the end of Wayne's long story. It's finally healed itself, and now it's over. ("I once was lost, but Now Am Found.") For future True Detective seasons,

My favorite moment of the series and finale was seeing how Roland West became A Dog Person.

That was some nefarious music playing when Henry had the realization of what/who most be on Allegra Lane.

"He belongs to us." Which is true. Michael's not free.

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I knew people on probation and they were given a day and time window to appear. Then they sat in a waiting room like at a DMV until their officer was ready to see them. I went with a buddy once and was expecting messiness, but everyone in the waiting room was on their best behavior- library-silent, hands in lap type stuff. P.O.'s don't play around.

Parole is a privilege and a contractual obligation regardless of what color the violator is. When expected to appear between 1 and 6pm, a wise parolee is there at 12pm. Michael thinks he's slicker than your average, but he's a human skidmark.

Nope, this is the real one. 🙂

"Next time, on this messy ass show.." Give this man an Emmy.