KnoxForPres

This is 100% my take so keep that in my mind, but I think this is dead in the water. At least to me when reading, you seem annoyed at Mr Makeout. Like he gets on your nerves. Because what described above is on the surface mild, but the smallest things become irritating when we don't mesh with someone or just don't like them. To play devils advocate, I wouldn't apologize for giving someone a cold. Not because I was trying to be a bitch, but because it wouldn't occur to me. I might give a "crap, that sucks you got sick too!" But I wouldn't issue an "I'm sorry" because I didnt have intent or a plan to pass on my sniffles. That happens this time of year. But, to bring it back, I think if there was a great connection you'd be like "I got his cold and whew boy it was worth it!" Possibly while twirling and tossing Kleenex in the air. I don't think you'd be thinking of apologies or analyzing words of being asked out. Now, because life is weird sometimes I get invested in this and want Person A (who cannot win at this point) to respond or act like I want him to. And when he doesn't I get annoyed, and it becomes a cycle. Not fair for him or me, but I keep going, truth be told often because I find the person hot. And want it to work. Of course, that's me analyzing a hell of a lot over an innocent paragraph you wrote so I accept if I'm totally off base. It just felt familiar to me as I read it and that's been my experience. Can't wait to hear about new first date!!!!

Get an iPhone! Typing from one now hence the autocorrect to small i. It loves to block numbers.

I thought this was an average episode and am also ready for individual competitions. I think Wes did a nice job of self reflection and acted on it. Not an easy thing to do. I think with ManBun, for me, it's his constant need to remind us he's just a little cooler. Shut up and cook. For example Emeril (who I've always loved)- how bad ass when the guy who worked for him said what amazing things he did for his employees during Katrina. Let others organically learn how amazing you and your wife are. At this point I'm gagging because he's force feeding me his too cool for school bullshit. 10-4, I get it. Grayson was a strange bird this season. A giant why comes to mind think of bringing her back. As someone else said above, I miss them showing names etc in the opener. I'm not even detail oriented enough to convey at this point, I'd be like "guy with blonde, no wait- is it black hair?" To describe. My brain found those intros very helpful.

Haha! Me too, really. That makes me think of a joke my sister and I have. Once I was reading a review of a caramel apple covered in toffee and a reviewer said "too much candy". My sister and I both said "the hell?" Since then if we're eating something amazing like a Mac and cheese or calzone, one will say "too much cheese". No, no such thing. Speaking of, tonight I'm making Trisha Yearwoods cheese boat (sans the corned beef). If you have friends who like cheese and bread, I highly suggest it for your next get together. It would warrant a sister joke reply, it's that good.

I can't describe how hilarious the Whisper 2000 comment was. I'm glad at I was at home because I had one hell of a real laugh out loud at that! Ya know, I guess Sandoval was joking, but if I were Ariana I wouldn't find it that funny. I saw him as lit and wanting to go on the prowl. However,as a viewer I very much liked it and hope there is some annual Vegas cheating next week. I have such a crush on Schwartz (this goes way back) but he gets on my nerves. I hated how he was like "you'll never have to bend again" or whatever shit he said to Katie. He plays innocent and sweet when he's just making sure he gets what he wants. I haven't ever noticed Lisa's arms before, but I honest to god stare at her boobs in every opener this season (there will never be a better opening/song for any show). And I don't even want to! It's so much....boobage in that dress.

That's what holidays are made for....rich! Do it! Do we fit into these tight ass pants all year in vain? Hell no- bring on the calories for a day and for the love of all dogs let me indulge. Then I resume boring and no fun. So...I made a pretty good ad hoc but well received Mexican dip at the Xmas work party today. The lowdown; 2 cans of refried beans mixed with a jar of Ortega taco sauce. That's the base layer. Next I took a 16 oz sour cream, 2 XL dollops of mayo and a Hidden Valley ranch seasoning packet I did these layers night before so as to let layers "marry" as they say on fancy TV This morning I grated half a block of extra sharp and half a block of Colby Jack (8 oz each) and made sure had full cheese coverage. Had cheese leftover but to hell with it- I'll find a purpose. Cut some green onions on the bias and threw those on. Drained in colander and then paper towered til dry a mild can of rotel (bc I never liked tomatoes thius have never been a great tomato cutter). Scattered that on top. It was demolished with people asking for recipes! If you knew would be eaten soon then add shredded lettuce, guac etc. Freaking home run, I tell you and so easy!

Great post, Queasy. And yay for finding such an incredible man! I enjoyed reading how much you appreciate him. I'm off Mr. Good Morning, too. Non-committal to dates, lame ass texts, Mr Move on and bore another girl. Edit because I attempted to type all of the above and upon reread just wrote Lizzyyy.

I did a standing rib roast once and did very close to above. It was delish! We do a brunch for Christmas. I make Paula Deen's (I know, I know) French Toast casserole which is amazing. From an old The Masters cookbook (yes- the golf tourney) I make a ham and cheese quiche. It's so good!!! Cant figure out why I love it so much- maybe bc it just calls for 3 eggs? Lots of yum flavor and not too eggy. Historically I've made a sausage/hashbrown thing (no eggs). I'm not a huge fan but my family loves it. I find it a tad sausage heavy. I'll probably make it again just because they like it. But if anyone here has a non egg breakfast casserole, Id love to hear it. And my dad makes a fruit salad. I love to cook, but hate to cut fruit. So always pass that task to pop. We are a family who look for any excuse to cram as many calories as possible during the holidays but with the French toast thing, dessert isn't needed. Like I would love an excuse but really, no way after that and everything else.

That's ok- it happens in this stage combined with this time of year. What was the gift, may I pry? And I think it's nice he got you something. Are you a cook? I'd suggest making dinner for him. If not I'd maybe order in from a place he likes. Something as a token of appreciation/affection but not so blatant as wrapping a tie and saying "I got you a gift!" :) I think Mr Checked out sounds worthy of a second date. Can't place my finger on why- but I have this feeling he is. He sounds....normal. The married guy texted me the other day and I responded asking if he's divorced. He said no- lawyers make things hard etc. I replied "well you have my number when you are". Maybe a bit cold on my part, but for cripes sake- why would I want to get entangled with texts with a married man. If a guy breaks it off because the other person is sick, as they say, count yourself lucky he excused himself from your life. I need to become a legit poster on this thread. I should join a dating app in the new year. If you guys have recs- let me know.

Haha, wait. A spa/sauna....with friends? So many questions! I try to in general to say yes to most things. But I got a visual of you (except it was me in this movie) standing in a room with a robe on amongst strangers with Enya playing and just hell no.

Assholes- the lot of them :) The married ones I mean. At this point one month in I would not bring it up. That's still pretty early. And if things are going well (which it sounds like they are) then I'd let it ride and enjoy it. Because if he's like me and thinks one month is early for the talk you'll go "damn it- it was good why did I say that" to yourself. My experience has been the guy generally brings that up around month three. Of course this is not science but that's been pretty consistent. The advantage here is until he does, by all rights you can play the field. Even if on your nights off if you watch old Gilmore Girls and order in- he doesn't have to know that. It's annoying and probably old fashioned but by god it's the truth- they want the chase. If you were to verbally advance the relationship 9/10 guys would have preferred to initiate that conversation. If he's corresponding throughout the week, planning dates for your weekends and engaging and having fun when you're together- you can 100% take to the bank he's interested. And he will ask for exclusivity. But- that's just my take. Completely my opinion and if you feel otherwise or dynamics are different- do what you feel/think is best.

When you say show do you mean play/opera or musician? If there was no dinner or drink prior (know you don't drink), I will say sometimes it's hard to get a good idea side by side. You can be sitting across a person you didn't think you'd like but conversation flows and they say or do something and it's a turn on. I think that's hard if not impossible (unless immediate attraction) to achieve side by side watching a show. So he's not a total write off yet if that's the case. And I've always had a thing for short guys so never bothered me. Your dress with Makeout sounds perfect! If at a show and I'm interested in the guy, I don't mind hand and leg touching. I kind of like it. It's hot. But- I get how that could be a person by person case. Just based on your recaps here- you seem a bit less enthralled each time. And haha- I knew he'd want to come back to your place. The third date does it every time! Good for you not allowing it. I went out to bar last night with male work friend and my BFF wound up meeting us. Met a great guy. Good looking, backpacker, nice, into me and ......screech! About two hours in unloads he's in a bad marriage and wants out. He got my freaking number prior! So I have no great updates either. Married asshole, lol.

Is it from the cold or just "meh" about the dates or combo? if I'm in a funk, what you're doing is what works best for me. Getting out and going and doing. If I give in and watch Gossip Girls on Netflix under a blanket I stay blah (even if lusting after Chace Crawford). And try not to think too much about it. Go about your day and when date time comes- show up and live in the moment. I've had the "oh Gosh I don't want to do this/not feeling it" etc feeling many times and when I forge on and arrive, within minutes I'm 99% of the time glad I did and have energy, excitement that I did not foresee.

I think that's excellent thinking, aunt. And sorry guys- didn't meant to hijack this thread. One of my greatest service pet peeves is immediate pushback. No matter the inquiry. I have spent oh we don't want to know how much money on dog food over the years. Mostly at store X. I had an emailed coupon and store X said I had to print it out at home and return if I wanted to use it. I have a rewards card with them that they have to see my past and budget busting number . But even if I was first timer- instant pushback. And they didn't relent after I said its 2015 that's not eco friendly or realistic. I understand policy but from a service perspective I would have said "we will do it this time, but next time must have hard copy". Well, not much bothers me but that did. I kind of raised immortal hell once I got home and went from local to corporate. Magically today their emailed coupons now say accepted via mobile. Apparently there were others like I am! ive been in the service industry in a lot of different ways and stlll am to a degree and just for my own mental health the first thing I think is "ok-here it is, how can I fix it". Instant pushback or here is where you went wrong makes such a horrific and escalated experience for everyone.

Oh no- none at all! Goodness, unless someone hurt my dog or family I think I'm immune to offense. But in general, and way beyond that small quote I used (which succinctly captured my thoughts ) in reading here I've learned that everyone doesn't have a secret desire to be part of a conversation. Mentions of not digging small talk, wanting to be left alone, etc. Because I have such a strong pull to the opposite, it never occurred to me that others are happy when, well...left out. Maybe I've not ever studied or thought about it- who knows- but my whole life I felt a need to include the outsider. And it's good for me to know that some people just want their earbuds in and to be left alone. It's hard to describe in a way that doesn't come off passive aggressive or weird- I'm being completely honest. I needed to learn it's ok and if someone doesn't come to the cake birthday it's likely not because they feel left out, but - they hate that kind of stuff. Which is a relief in a sense. While I worried they were sad I think the truth is that kind of stuff is the equivalent of no fu filled with small talk and bad cake. And I actually get that. I'm not gifted at the written language (but I could talk you ear off :) to convey exactly what I mean, but I feel better knowing solitude likely means they like it where I viewed it as "oh no! I need to talk so they feel a part". I'd much rather put at ease via instant message, natural conversation etc. I will longer force it if you will.

For me, and I realize reading here now it's not effective, but it's because I want to be in the mix and middle and not on the outside and I (wrongly and ego-centrically) assume others do. I feel such shame at something I've been doing. A guy on my team is possibly the most averse to interaction of anyone I've met. He deliberately looks down when he passes others and talks to no one. Yet not in a mean or cold way, just a leave me alone way. He's brilliant. And I sometimes want his insight into what I'm working on. Well...(gulp) I go to his desk to ask his thoughts. And stand there and talk to him. But!! In my mind I was offering friendship, acceptance, etc. I always think of him as a social underdog and sort of felt sad for him. Turns out- he's likely happy as a lark at his desk when left alone. I will instant message him from now on bc I see how I am making his day less pleasant when my intent was to make him "part of the gang". Every day we do indeed learn!

Oh good grief- that is annoying. Talked to his ex blech. Because your date could only have gone fast track to engagement. Impossible two adults could enjoy a concert without threat of serious dating looming around the corner. Wishy washy and difficult to make plans is my sign to move on. I met a guy I think I would have really liked a few weeks ago. Out of the gate he's telling me how busy he is and I know that was my sign to exit stage left (or whatever that line is). Because what people say is true, at the beginning that is the best it will ever be. So if he's bailing or rescheduling it will be repeat and rinse. And his schedule will always trump yours.

Well, Mr GM has some interest because if ever there was an easy out- that was it! So you agreed to date three, did you. My tactic has changed and this time while prepping for the date, snack on a raw bulb of garlic. I, uh, heard it's an aphrodisiac hence the advice. In all seriousness some men view date three as the sex date. Certainly not all, but enough to keep it in the back of your mind. And I admire your honesty about his dates. What I like best is you're facing it head on. You know when it's too much. And you admit it. If you were posting only how great it was leaving out those parts (which we would never know) that would be different. I understand why you agreed. Attraction is a wonderful thing! And you're smart and handling it well so keep up the good work.

You got side eye from patrons, workers, best friends, and online friends. I think you end it. I do. As much as I want to PM you bc we could likely be great friends I can't start it on how- and I'm going to escalate this- an asshole treated you. You're right- I don't want to know but your BFF tells me enough- just stop. You've got way too good of a head on your shoulders to give this guy another shot. You can do infinitely better. And I've kissed oh my word so many people and let me tell you lots and lots are good at making out. They just do it weirdly- like at your door or a non public place or where you have some fucking privacy. Go get it!

Well shoot, sis! Own that youth and make it 80 :) A great friend of mine met the love of her life at 37. She'd always wanted a family too. They married, she had her first at 38 and baby #2 was just born! Took time but I have to say- she really landed a great man and is so happy now (he's a doctor too!)

I had vicarious butterflies after date one and now...I'm not so sure. I thought he was energetic and flirtatious initially (also a small part wondered if he was on coke, but I digress) based on the details provided from your first date. I've been to lots of shows and making out in the lobby isn't normally on the docket. Agree with place and time, here. Why so close and invasive in the damn lobby!? This is the time for comfortable yet close distance, eye contact, laughter and light conversation. Not making out. Right? I get why an 8th grader does it, but in the (presumable 20s) why his need for such PDA? From what you've said in posts I think you're very wise and able to assess situations correctly. So while I'm pretty close to creeped out, I'll accept that wasn't how it came off. But man, I don't like his groping and kissing and this and that on date two. Going old school romance novel "that's not how you treat a lady". Yet I'm not fully out because I trust your judgement , but I am curious what he proopsed for date three. Look I'm going to be crass. If I'm just looking for a good time with a hottie I would much prefer we go to the bar and have a few too many and then get it on like mad. For me, I'd like that more than making out in Barnes and Noble pretending like its a "real" date. It's hard to describe what I mean so sorry if that makes no sense. Guess it all comes back to place and time. Man- you have to keep us posted on this!

Haha- yeah Psychiatrists are MDs so they do all the med school stuff. Great future! And I'm pretty sure he's not psychianalyzing you ;). Really glad you're continuing to enjoy your time with him. Company coming is indeed the greatest cleaning motivation ever! So win- win! Yeah we did the cheap beer and pizza again Sunday. I don't think he's the great love of my life, but our time together is fun and enjoy that aspect. May I be so bold to ask if your birth year is 79? Mine is which is why the curiosity. I've not ever been married or had kids, if that's your year too- have you? I've never hated singlehood or had a desire for kids so that isn't as bleak as it may sound- ar least to me. Though I do hope one day to get married. And whoo hoo for Mr Kiss A Lots tomorrow! Wear sensible shoes and no garlic at dinner (kidding!). Can't wait to hear about date #2!

Sadly, I do believe that was the intent, yes. Isn't the good kisser date coming up soon? Dknny79- how's it going with your guy? Get to see each other over the holiday?

While you guys have moved on and made productive strides in your adult lives, I can't get past -there are people who call to inquire about the details of a free snow globe on Black Friday? The hell?

Yeah- agree completely. And that's one thing that rings true to me on VPR- they aren't all ocean front Malibu facing, thank God. During the intervention I found: the hug legit. Seemed they do care. I was kind of annoyed by the Tom's what- holy shit you've had five in one day and had side effects? Give me a fucking break. As said above- we could all maintain that life. Was distracted by Ariana's olive onesie? Or what was that unflattering piece of fabric? Main focus was on the 42 ft wedding pics Hate it- but we could go back many seasons with me saying on these sites ! this and I stand by it- I love Schwartz. I'm really glad Peter found a nice girl who he wants to take out. FI Toms love for Ariana made me kind of sad. Like she was slurping spaghetti giving him the fuck eye and his response "I have to be so great she will want to marry me". Oh dear Flatiron- take a seat by Knox. I too have been that person and you're left sad, lonely, and worst- writing on the wall the whole time.