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Ah, but technically he didn't tell Barry. It's all lame and stupid and would have been better if it was executed in basically any way other than this one. If they had just left what happened originally and have them flee from the first battle with Savage, I would have been fine with them working on it from there. But the writers went for perverse on purpose.

I don't think they showed Thea burning up if you consider that a clue. Although I don't know how she should have survived regardless as the staff was supposed to wipe out the entire city.

Oh, hey. Then they would get a 10 plus episode jump on "dying" together in comparison to last year.

I was wondering about that as well as I remembered it as two million. And that is a pretty nice house she and William are living in. I mean, if we go by the fact that she had him at about 20 while she was still a college student or drop-out. I don't know, I'm just ready for there to be more to this storyline and for it to somehow connect to the overall story. Have her be a villain or William a meta, and maybe that being one of the reasons he worships Flash, because he can relate to him. Also, it's striking me as odd her calling him William instead of Will. Is she overcorrecting for "Ollie"? Although I don't remember hearing her call him anything but Oliver.

But we haven't seen pictures of her at the party. Still doesn't mean she's not there.

Ahaha. That would be hilariously mean towards Oliver. I can only hope he folds like a cheap suit at the beginning of the next episode. But then again, that would make sense when not much of what's going on right now makes sense to me. If Oliver actually manages to keep a secret from Felicity, well then I just don't know anything anymore. Sure, I could sort of buy it last year since he pushed her away, so he wasn't constantly under her scrutiny and having her zoom in on him when her spidey senses tingle. But now he's living with her! And this is actually the weird thing for me. Oliver is all about the consequences. So much so that he has taken on consequences for the actions of others in the past. How exactly does he imagine this folding out? Yes, last year was exasperating, but dumb as it was, he foresaw himself dying and accepted that. I have no earthly idea what he sees here.

Here's another thing I found puzzling. How exactly did Oliver being distracted make them originally lose to Savage? I don't remember a particular turning point that cost them everything because he was having an existential crisis during the fight. And while Barry can be great with Oliver (when he's not calling him Ollie, my God, Larry!), him using the I-grew-up-without-a-dad card really made me want for someone else who was in the same boat get the chance to throw her two cents in. Although... Crap, I hate how I'm seeing this now, maybe that comment actually did make Oliver think of Felicity and think that she would see him being a part of William's life as a good thing. So in his strange Oliver-logic he's actually listening to her without getting her input. I don't know. It's a mess.

@ottoDbusdriver, on the whole? I have no idea. I guess the wings and resurrection came because Kendra (I don't know how her original name is supposed to be spelled) prayed to Horus moments before their deaths. While we're on questions, where did present Barry go once future Barry showed up? I mean he couldn't have just poofed into thin air, right? Did he just decide to hell with it all once he saw his future self speed by and went to mountain resort to chill?

Well, I am watching next week, I'm not gonna lie. We'll see how I'll feel after the break. Whether everything will start to make sense to me or I just lose interest.

Maybe he just doesn't know how to spin this in a positive light after it's aired seeing as he's on record (as well as EBR) about being protective of showing this as a grown-up, mature relationship. Joke's on them, it would seem.

Yes, please. So where is Felicity trapped, under the bay?

I finally watched and on the whole, this episode really had too many people who did practically nothing. Dig, Thea, Laurel and Caitlin to be precise. They all appeared to be there just to deliver a line, be sent off on an errand and be toasted. The flash backs were awful but also hilarious at the same time. I like your tongue! Ahahaha. And then they went rapey so ew. Actually, that part made me suspicious. Are they going to have Samantha go bonkers and either target Felicity in some way or deliberately tell her herself? I mean, if we're going for soap, let the bubbles emerge. So, Oliver's been allowed to be smart for 7 episodes (8 if we count last night's Flash) and 10 minutes of this one. It was nice while it lasted? This was really just an awful storyline for a crossover. If it had to have been done, it should have been left for a different episode. Or have Oliver confirm at the end of this one and then deal with everything later on. Oh, and that kid? No preservation instinct. He needs to meet Aunt Thea. I mean, a strange man entered his room and he kept playing! Stranger danger, child, FFS!

If we're chosing over here, I'd go with Oliver letting himself be manipulated and making bad decsisions that can lead to no good be the dream.

When it's appropriate. She did know about The Ominous Decade in S1. I was frankly more surprised she hadn't heard anything about the staff of Horus. Seemed like something she could know of. Maybe he still is. Here's hoping so that anything about this makes some sort of sense. Otherwise it's just waiting for the other shoe to drop for dramas!

Oh. My. God. David Ramsey was right. It's hilarious. I didn't think it would be SO noticeable.

It didn't look like a breakup to me either but boy, did it escalate quickly. It just went from 15 to 150 in two seconds and my head was spinning a bit. They were both at least partly in the right. Felicity with wanting him to involve her, not Barry, and Oliver needing a beat or two to process. But they had to go through it quickly, I guess to get dead and then dropped into a more perverse timeline.

Seriously, what does Malcolm do? I feel like him pulling something awful would be the one thing that is in character.

Is this Earth Six? Everything just sounds like whaaaat? I guess I'll be angry once I see the episode (that cuddling scene sounds really reminiscent of Oliver pulling the same crap with Laurel when Samantha got pregnant and thereby repulsive), but right now nothing makes sense to me. I've read comments on Twitter that Malcolm is a monster. Now that makes sense. What did he do? Samantha honestly sounds like the worst. From what I'm getting, this wasn't a good episode for anyone but she is seriously the worst. I really wouldn't mind if she ended up in that grave now. And it turned out William was actually Robert's kid and she's Darhk's daughter and is a villain. Or, OR William is actually Billy Slade who for some reason doesn't age or something and this is all just a big trap. I do not get the choice to use time travel and then to top it off by making things worse once it's done. Sure, there may have been fighting initially, but at least Felicity knew. I mean, Oliver is never supposed to tell Thea either?

They've been playing nicely with the class for the most part this season plus I see no benefit in getting upset about something that might happen. And it might also not. I'll get pissed if they actually piss me off, not pre-emptively. That seems like a waste of energy.

Tom Amandes is definitely the father. And crap. Now I sort of want him to go, "Felicity, I am your father" over the PA system. Darth Vader that shit.

What parallel, him leaving to fight Ra's last year? Where is this from? It's not in that clip where they all arrive at the farm even if it obviously comes straight after it.I wonder where Oliver's going. Pretty sure not to Samantha's house seeing as I seem to recall him being in a different outfit for that. I guess to investigate, although I'm not clear on how he would be going about that.

So honey is definitely a thing in this relationship. Turns out, I'm OK with it. Huh.

It's like 2x09 Three Ghosts. If this episode was anywhere near as good, I would not complain.

Not always. There's definitely no ring there at the beach.

No resetting time. If they make shit happen, they need to deal with the consequences. I just imagined that the bay clean-up is towards the start of the episode but it could be that something happens there as well. Although I would find it extremely shitty for people to make Oliver put on a tie and talk to the press if Felicity is in danger. No producer's preview?