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Yeah, Javi's definitely changed his tune since the Jan. 30 episode first aired.

Thanks for the screenshot. Those tweets have since been deleted, seems he's now pissed. I called it, btw, a couple threads ago, that he was still holding out hope for them to reconcile. SMH. even though it was blatantly obvious to the rest of the world that she's been done for a loooong time now.

where did javi tweet that?

LOL @ Kail's new man having his face blocked out!!! No wonder she was so uptight about Javi coming to the house. Watch this deleted scene, it sounds like it was the same dude Javi was upset about her texting before. http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/9hapbw/teen-mom-2-deleted-scene-javi-details-his-argument-with-kailyn

I agree that Leah is different from the other girls in that regard - she hasn't had work done and she doesn't seem to be caught up in all the glitz and glamour and bullshit that comes with being a star, either. I never see her at any of those MTV Award shows on the red carpet or any of those other things. She seems content to just film, take her MTV check and keep living life. She hasn't forgotten where she came from. That's probably both a good and a bad thing, as it seems like she's also content to immerse herself in the white trash drama/culture.

fair enough. I just see very little redeeming qualities in Kail (other than that she's a good Mom, I will give her that, but I'm talking about relationship qualities). Every other cast member, I see their flaws as a partner but I also see at least some redeeming/likable qualities that I could see how they'd be appealing. Not Kail. When it comes to relationships, she has every flaw under the sun.

no, we haven't seen her do that, specifically, but given how psycho she got over Jo being with Vee (a guy she wasn't even with anymore), it wouldn't surprise me one bit if she started trying to get into her guy's fb, snapchat, phone, emails and whatever else to see what he's up to if she was feeling insecure/jealous. Kail has hit Javi and Jo, both, cheated on Jo while she was still living in his house, etc. and you think she's the type to respect someone's privacy and space? she's capable of violating every other boundary, i don't believe for a minute she's not capable of violating that boundary as well.

She even got into an altercation with Jo when picking up or dropping off (forget which) Isaac because she saw Vee there and snapped. They had to make an agreement in court that significant others could not be present at the drop-offs/pick-ups.

yup. tbh, I think she woulda if it weren't for the show - like you said, she's image-conscious and I think she feared backlash from viewers. But after the whole miscarriage thing, she figured she had leverage for being able to divorce him without looking like a total selfish bitch (which she knows viewers perceive her as). oh yes she is, do you remember how mean and angry she was at Vee for being Jo's new girlfriend?? Kail is a very jealous person.

And I don't believe for a minute that Kail would be all about privacy and trust if SHE were the one feeling jealous/insecure in the relationship. no way, no how. she'd be going through her guys phone, emails and Facebook like it's an FBI investigation. how can you say that? when he asked to see her phone, remember he said, "we should have each other's passwords." keyword being EACH OTHER. I think he woulda just been happy Kail even gave a shit enough to want access, bc I think he sensed, for years, that Kail didn't really love him or care about him in that way.

No, but it was already decided they were getting a divorce, at that point, so it woulda been none of her business who he talks to. But I think, before they decided to divorce, he would have showed her his phone if she had asked.

they invited him, he just didn't make it bc of the flood. only the guys who were in driving distance from WV were able to make it bc of the flood.

I think all of you have a point. I agree that everyone's entitled to privacy and that demanding free and unlimited 24/7 access to each other's phone and emails is probably a bit much for some people - myself included - but if there was a specific guy that my guy was concerned about and I had nothing to hide, I'd show him our convo just to put his mind at ease. The fact that Kail wouldn't do that doesn't mean she's sleeping w/him, but given her track record, it sure seems likely, to me. She cheated on Jo with Jordan, who she met at work. So, it wouldn't surprise me if she also cheated on Javi (even if it was just emotional, at first) with some guy she met at school.

I hate to say it, but kind of. Although it's not just Brandi - my favorite season was Season 2, which had Taylor in it. Brandi was in it, too, but she wasn't a big part of the main storyline that involved Taylor and Russel. I think what the show is missing is substance - none of the issues seem real or like something anyone outside of the super-image-conscious cast cares about...Kim and Lisa's argument over Kim's drinking problem is old news and has been recycled a million times in different seasons and Kim's not even a main cast member anymore, so I don't give a shit. Pantygate, who gives a fuck. Only Erika. The past 2 seasons, it felt like nothing's really happened. And when I saw the trailer for this season, I was soooo unexcited. So I haven't really watched much of it, just clips here and there.

This season looks like a total snoozefest so far #yawn I haven't even been watching most of it.

Oh, I'm sure Kail was the one who cheated, first and who moved on, first. She may not have admitted it to Javi at the time, but I remember during one of the episodes where they were fighting on FaceTime, Kail got a text from someone and quickly swiped it out of the way, but the cameras caught it, as did fans, and I forget the guy's name but Javi said it was the same guy who they'd previously fought about her texting. But she was talking to that guy before she even filed and I think that's at least part of what made her ultimately decide to divorce him. Once it was clear Kail wanted a divorce, Javi decided to move on, too, but I don't think he would have cheated on her before she said she wanted a divorce, IMO. Javi was insecure and needy in the relationship but he was also very eager to please Kail and eager to make it work, IMO. He was committed until she flat out told him she wasn't.

And IDK about Matt. He seems to treat Amber well - like he seems supportive of her and her every endeavor and struggle. And he seems so normal and stable when I watch him on camera. Doesn't mean he's not a con-man, though. On paper, he's kinda of a mess, with all the unclaimed and unsupported kids, being 45 and watching Teen Mom and the way he just moved in w/Amber after a month when he didn't even live in Indiana, he lived in Boston, which suggests he had no real important assets to sell or job that he needed to cut ties with, first, which I'd say is strange, for a 45 year old man. IDK. It's all very odd, for sure. smh.

I think Amber's probably more concerned about his image than he is, tbh. He's probably doing it to make money.

exactly!

I'm no fan of Kail, but I didn't think much of her comment about his truck, her tone of voice was making fun of his truck in a teasing way, not in a mean way. Javi didn't seem offended.

oh that's the same girl? I didn't know that.

Probably several reasons. Firstly, all the MTV money she has. With an income over $200k, these Teen Moms are able to live more than a middle class lifestyle. And maybe they just click/are into them, too. Someone who lives that kind of lifestyle is exciting - the idea that so many men would love to date them (for a variety of reasons, many of which are probably not sincere but regardless) and of all of them, she chose you. Many of these Teen Mom girls seem like the type of girls who, initially, present themselves well and are likable/appealing, like Leah. She initially seems sweet and fun and outgoing and normal. I notice her boyfriends/ex-husbands are all initially super into her and want to make it work with her and are even willing to overlook her "I'm not sure if I'm over my ex," ways. But down the line, as they get to know her and she gets more comfortable with them, they realize she's got many flaws - she's messy/unorganized as hell, she's irresponsible, she can't take any criticism, she over-spends money and is likely to put whoever she marries in serious debt, she's chaotic and lives an unstable life, always moving, etc. Remember how Jeremy kept saying stuff like, "The girl I fell in love with ain't the girl I got now," and "She went from normal to batshit crazy," etc.

yeah, it seems like Leah is weary of having any of her new boyfriends on camera. When did she and TR Dues break up? He was never on camera (I think he didn't want to, he made his Twitter private, so it seems like he prefers to avoid the spotlight) so it's hard to know when things ended or why. If theyre done, then I'm sure Leah's found someone new, she's not the type of girl that can handle being single very long..

Yeah, he did seem resigned to the situation, but I saw in this season's trailer that Kail abruptly cuts him off, at some point, when theyre sitting face to face and says, "no, we're getting divorced, period! it's not like we were this happy couple!" Also, Kail kept saying how Javi keeps going back and forth on whether he wants the divorce. So I think maybe the reason Kail was so standoffish is because she felt that being more welcoming and open to talking to him would give him hope of reconciling.

Could be that, too, although Nathan and Adam and Jeremy and Corey are still on the show (and get paid almost as much as the Teen Moms, from what I hear) even though theyre not w/Leah anymore. Sometime last year, Adam went on an IG rant about having to pay child support to Chelsea and said MTV pays her about $250k per year, if I recall correctly, and he said they don't pay him as much, but pretty close. Maybe the kids are assigned bathrooms at school? Just a guess.