TheGreenKnight

Yeah, they noticeably omitted one glaring part of Geddie's "legacy." I don't hate the man, I'm sorry for his family, but I give Barbara, Meredith, Joy, and Star more credit for The View than him. Ana brought up her initial start on The View back when she was a Jeb Bush supporter, I think that's the first time she has. I liked her even then, she was one I always thought was a good candidate for this show when she first appeared (one of the only good ones among the "contributors" they started that season off with, Padma Lakshmi being the only other one of those I liked), because she didn't scream and she gels well with the others. Whoopi made a comment about Geddie not being the one who fired Joy and the way she said it sort of answered for me the lingering question of why she acted so crazy during the Rosie's season finally. I still wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of Whoopi and she's definitely a weaker moderator than Meredith, but I think I like her a little more knowing she acted the way she did out of loyalty to Joy and others rather than simply because she couldn't handle another big name being at the table. Speaking of, I appreciated Ana bringing up Rosie Perez's comment about Bill Geddie. I liked Perez and I hate she's generally ignored in these kinds of retrospectives simply because she was only there one year (and yet we get lots of Jenny McCarthy, yuck). Same. If anyone owes Geddie everything, it was her. Maybe they'll have her call in on tomorrow's show since they'll be talking about his passing again anyway with Joy.

I don't agree with that, I think her nastiness towards the others is just more subtle. Like when they were talking about men and Joy was being very humble about how she knows she's man repellent, and Alyssa made that whole, "It must be your warm personality" comment. She's a snake, she's been that from Day 1. Sunny deals with people like that direct, but unfortunately there are a lot of people like Sara who fall for the act hook, line, and sinker and indulge the person because they feel sorry for them. Personally, I'd say Alyssa is far from the worst they've had in that seat as far as demeanor goes, but I admit I did have more respect for someone like Paula Faris or Candace Cameron-Bure who was open in what their positions / aims are rather than someone who skirts around the side doing PR for a position or a person, but then refusing to ever own it when confronted directly. Alyssa wants to speak out of both sides of her mouth and never be countered all while she and Sara tag team the others the whole time they speak, but that's not going to happen on The View. It's been a year now and I think the others have finally taken the kid gloves off.

Loved the first segment, mostly Ana blowing apart the game Alyssa's playing, really just a coward's how-to. She knows supporting Trump openly will make anyone immediately stop listening to her, not to mention expose the fact that everything about her are really just pretensions to repair her disgraced reputation--not anything genuine. Hence this morning's little dance around any kind of direct discussion, lol. I suppose we'll get to hear those work-around's quite a lot over the next season. Only a shame Ana can't be there every day to counter the harm Ayssa is attempting to help along, Ana's the best one for that particular job.

Sara is so condescending these days. She always acts like she's "correcting" the others yet most of what she says is usually a bigger pile than anything that's being said by any of them--that's when it's not a contradiction of something she herself said months prior, that is. I'm glad that Ana, Joy, and Sunny have all stopped letting her do that to them. The Hurd interview earlier this week was interesting, particularly when Sunny asked him about Tim Scott. Kudos to at least being willing to acknowledge basic reality, but I doubt that will earn him much favor. But I also liked Joy bringing up people who have no chance only running to perhaps be a VP pick.

Loved Ana shutting down Sara and Alyssa this morning, they are so tiresome.

Good week so far. My favorite part of yesterday's show was Joy's offhand "Pathetic!" causing both Whoopi and Alyssa to burst out laughing at the same time.

Poor Joy. So glad her story about Bernie yesterday had a happy ending!

So they're back to how they were before Rosie's return now. Friday's have been the best day of the week tte past few years with Joy moderating, but now it'll be mostly dull topics being discussed. /sigh I suppose it'll be a little interesting to hear what Rivera will say. Otherwise, it's for the best they don't have many guests; the guests are usually the worst part of the show anyway.

The schedule really has been worse than useless these past weeks. I don't think Kim Cattrall was ever even listed this or last week, so random. I don't know who the guest was yesterday--I think Jason Alexander? The show was blacked out all through the guest portion through to when Andy Grammer started singing for me--boy, I wish Grammer had been the part that had been blacked out instead, oy vey. Lucky for Joy and Sunny at least, I think they got to leave early and not have to sit through that song. A rare occurrence, but I thought Whoopi was the MVP on today's show between her smackdown of Alyssa at the end of the second segment (it's the few times she's relating to her own lived experience that she actually has something worthwhile to add, I guess) and the fluff topic when she was describing calling up somebody and telling them they didn't make the cut for a party.😄

No idea, but I had noticed this show was airing--re-running--a lot of shows with guest co-hosts on the schedule. I don't think the ratings are much better, I haven't watched any of this season, so I wouldn't be surprised if changes are coming. I'm glad to see they might be looking at Victor Cruz again-- he and Baldoni were the ones they should've picked to begin with if they were going for male co-hosts. Only other person I've seen that I like is JoAnna Garcia-Swisher. Her, Morales, Cruz, and Underwood + one other would be better than what they've had the past couple of years, imo.

They must've decided to save that topic for when Joy is there tomorrow, I don't think they discussed it today?

As far as the June 7th thing that's referred to above, there Sunny was saying there's really nothing Alyssa could say to defend the people she worked for--the rest of Sunny's sentence, from what I remember, was something along the lines of "And what does that say about them?" I actually don't think Alyssa's Barbara Walters deflect was a personal insult either--it was an insult to the show, she was clearly playing into the article that had come out in the media a week or so before to get sympathy for herself which tells me all I need to know about what her motivation on here is. The only personal insult I've seen this season was Alyssa calling her fellow co-host "a disgrace." I take Sunny's mug-sipping as a sign of skepticism at something ludicrous being said by a guest or one of the other co-hosts. Sara really is incapable of not BothSides-ing every single discussion, isn't she? It's almost comical at this point. I was glad Ana called her out for it. The refusal to take a real stance on anything is what gives an opening to someone like Alyssa to cause real damage. But this is a person who's said the opposite of almost every single opinion she's ever claimed to hold over the past 6 months, so I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point. It made me laugh that she tried to deflect criticism she's received for that yesterday by saying people simply can't take a nuanced discussion, or whatever self-serving spiel she went on. No, people just don't like people who say one thing yesteryear and then something else in the present. That's what selling out is. Don't blame long-time viewers for noticing. I personally think Ana and Sunny are close friends. The fact that they're both lawyers, they can go at each other and then move on easier than the others.

If I recall, the day of the blowup, Joy actually told Alyssa midway through "not to take it personal" as Sunny was reading out a list of facts. That makes it hard for me to read the discussion that way, personally. Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't think Sara meant to refer to Alyssa with her comments, it was just funny to me because Sara's statements did apply to her unintentionally, imo. One thing I forgot to say earlier was how much I laughed at Joy not even knowing who Gutfeld is.

On that point, I thought Sara's comments about someone resorting to personal attacks simply because they can't beat a person's arguments applied to Alyssa, lol. Love her or hate her, Sunny has never had to resort to personally insulting Alyssa in their many back-and-forths, although it wouldn't be hard to do. The same can't be said for her. Alyssa's condescending sneer at the end of the Supreme Court discussion was so repulsive, I was glad the audience clapped against her pretensions McConnell didn't already stack the court years ago. Her trying to compare The View to The Five is, much like her bringing up Barbara Walters recently, another putdown of the show she's being paid by much like the last co-host in that seat used to do. She may be more subtle and less loud than the last one, but causing havoc is her only purpose on the show all the same. If you don't like the show, feel free to leave any time, I say.

Nah, I've watched daily since Joy returned in 2015 except for Monday's this season I tend to speed through. I just don't agree is all.

Hmm, I didn't see Sunny the past few days as being noticeably different than in the past? At least imo, she's always been polite to Alyssa even if it's clear to all that she doesn't like her--politeness is really all Alyssa is owed. To me Sunny's comments yesterday only spotlighted Alyssa's ambition more or less, lol, which, well, we already know she's that between working there and then jumping ship when it was most convenient for the sake of future career opportunities like The View. I thought it was funny when Joy cut in already knowing what Alyssa's explanation for what her thought process would be in being a part of it all yesterday morning when they were talking about the Bret Baier interview, it was that predictable and calculated. To me, Sara is transparent in the way she goes wherever she thinks power resides these days and it's hard to un-see it once you notice. She always steps in to shut down anyone who says anything that might even vaguely disagree with Alyssa (or you might as well say Teta, Alyssa is his mouthpiece, imo) or Whoopi, even if it means defending something random like how Whoopi brushed off criticism of the wife they were talking about in the fluff topic as supposedly not liking the restaurant based on nothing yesterday. So I was happy when Joy did the same thing back to Sara today during the discussion of the toxic mouthpiece accused of rape when Sara tried to deflect to some kind of mental illness maybe being in the guy’s family, please. I guess that’s why I prefer Sunny to Sara, Sunny gives the same opinions when they’re unpopular to say as when they’re popular and takes the hit for it, whereas Sara changes based on the needs of the day. I laughed at Joy making fun of all the legal notes. Most of them are necessary, I'm sure, but sometimes it feels like there being so many of those as well as constant "corrections" aimed at only certain members of the panel (Whoopi, Joy, Ana, Sunny) and never someone like Alyssa or Sara--noticeably Sunny is the only one who ever corrects them like with the inflation numbers today, if they are corrected on the show at all--means it's more about the EP trying to police certain views expressed on the show in preference of others. Still, I do enjoy the show most of the time, but last season was better with just the 5 admittedly. It really is a shame Joy and Ana can't both be on the show every day, they're far and away the most entertaining ones here. Cynthia Nixon wasn't there yesterday either. That's two days the written guest didn't show.

Yay for Wanda Sykes!

I haven't seen today's show yet, but enjoyed Tuesday and Wednesday. The writer's strike has given us a few funny moments, like Whoopi saying they'll be back with Union again yesterday only for the camer man to immediately correct her as commercials cut in and she was forced to give the advert for Union's show at the end instead in hyper-speed. Then again, that's Whoopi most days pre-strike, too... I think there was one day, can't remember which, where Whoopi cut to break as soon as the music started, which was timed almost precisely for the moment Sunny finished speaking (last to do so) just as Sara/Alyssa both moved in to pounce on her at the same time. Whoopi told them to blame the music that the two were forced to put their knives away, lol. Seemed like the only subtle reference to last week's to-do otherwise though.

That's what I thought when she wasn't there yesterday. A shame though. So she is moderating today (pre-recorded)?

Probably will not surprise you, I'm guessing, that I didn't read today's show that way at all. ;) To me, the most interesting part about the ensuing argument was that Alyssa apparently thought she deserved to speak before, during, *and* after Sunny's turn to speak whereas she didn't think Sunny should be able to get through her full thoughts even once, interrupting her as soon as she got done with Christie before she'd even moved into talking about the Pence half of the topic. She really could not bear to allow Sunny to lay down those facts about the LGBT deaths in Indiana or his involvement in the failures of the pandemic response and resorted to attacking Sunny when Sunny wouldn't simply kowtow and let her take her turn to speak away from her. The truth is Alyssa's close relationship with the subject of discussion meant she should have been speaking the least, not the most, of all the co-hosts. As far as Sunny specifically goes, my impression is she's been preparing her thoughts prior to the show for a while now. At least in some ways she comes across as if she's reading through notes the same way Ana and Sara often do, and in the past Sara and Alyssa have used that against her by jumping in midstream trying to throw her off track (which is why Sunny ends up taking so much time stumbling over her words). I actually *don't* think that's what Sara was trying to do this time, the past week or so Sara's seemed like she's trying to not play favorites between Sunny and Alyssa for once, but still I believe Sunny saw it as the usual game they've been playing when the two of them both jumped in with comments midstream again and that's where a lot of that came from. Either way, Sunny didn't resort to personal insults like Alyssa did--including insulting the show as a whole and dragging Barbara Walters' (may she rest in peace) name into it. That's why Joy told Alyssa not to take it so personally as Sunny was citing things that are known about Pence. Anyway, a lot of this to me sounds like the usual end-of-season tension that changes may be coming--they do go on break in a month and a half, I believe? Contracts were locked in through 2025 for all of them, from what I thought, but perhaps one may end up leaving after all, who knows. Personally, in retrospect, I think Tara Setmayer would've been a better choice than Alyssa. Never thought I'd be defending Elisabeth, but in all fairness to her--she was just a Survivor contestant with opinions like any random person off the street will have the same as Joy, Whoopi, etc., not someone with actual ties to the people being discussed.

Not able to watch right now, but looking forward to it when I get home, LOL! From the atticle above, I'd say it's laughable hearing her trot out Barbara's name for her own self-interest. I don't think Barbara's legacy would include someone with the kind of conflicts of interest she has being at the table either, just sayin'.

I watched it on YouTube out of curiosity. Personally, I thought they went fairly easy on him considering the manner in which he went at them coming out the gate, and especially in comparison to other interviews they've had in the past. They could've really nailed him and got cheered on for doing it, too. Instead they let him speak uninterrupted for what felt like 6 or 7 minutes before offering any pushback. Personally, I don't think there would be any value whatsoever in a View that didn't offer a counter of some kind to the type of claims he was attempting to pass off as factual.

I didn't know her by name either, but once I saw a picture, I remembered her. She's a good pick. Anyway, I remember reading a lot of criticism of Todd here over the year, so I imagine many are happy at the news, lol.

Oh, I hope so! Love this series. Even without Maggie Smith, I think I'll still enjoy it more than most.

I don't know how that makes sense with Ana being Monday's and Friday's-only. They'd be forcing her to be there an extra day? Maybe this is just a thing while the writer's strike is going on, they can sort of comb over the prerecorded show ahead of time. Pretty good week, overall. I noticed Alyssa name-dropping Sununu on Wednesday again, she's manifesting. Byrne didn't seem impressed with Whoopi incorrectly referring to her film Platonic as "Platonic Friends" at the end, but I did like her cracking up over Joy mid-interview. Liked Sunny's and Ana's comments when they were talking about Pride Month, liked Joy spotlighting Gorman's poem among the Banned Books today. The interviews today were fairly good (McCarthy had the better of the two, but both good). At times Ana comes across very scripted and controlled in her comments (not as bad as Sara though), but I did agree with her most of the time today--on how Pence has likely turned off every available audience and defending Christie versus Trump, and drag queens versus DeSantis. She even brought up a little factoid I hadn't been aware of or forgot as far as Christie having prosecuted Jared Kushner's father.