TattleTeeny

Is it ME? I guess I always think this too! Oh boy.

I have a sudden urge to say that I hope that I haven’t hurt the feelings of anyone here who may have gotten together with someone via cheating. I do know that sometimes shit happens and sometimes there are crazy circumstances and sometimes people get hurt in the process and sometimes the series of events in the process is in the ”wrong” order, but the result ends up right for the people involved. Usually those people make a mistake or have a moment and then take some steps to get shit on track (whatever that may mean to them). But I just don’t think that’s what went on with Tom Sandoval and Raquel.

Maybe she started to say "at the reunion" and had to reroute?

Yes. But I was responding only to the post that mentioned “away.” Also, not that it makes her any less incorrect, but tons of people interchange those terms. ETA: Your comment reminded me of when I was little — maybe 5 or 6 — and my grandpa, a cop in Irvington, NJ, put me in a jail cell. I heard him telling my grandma that it was OK because there was no one in there “sleeping it off” that day.

That’s a common term for being in prison — definitely not a Teresa-ism.

Not sure what does gender has to do with this. Men are allowed to feel and express things. I think he's too much of an immature whiny-tantrum baby for an adult. It's not about being sensitive; it's about how someone behaves when they are sensitive about something.

There's one about 2 minutes away from me -- ie, not Ramsey. I have no tile needs, so I have never ventured in! The tiniest Fuda is just so cute that I can't stand it.

I swear, people whom I've known since high school have turned so much more conservative (and other things) than I ever would have expected could possibly happen based on their "fuck the system" attitudes back then (granted, most of us probably didn't know much about the "system" when were were teenagers in the '80s. Meanwhile, my close friends and I scootch farther and farther into a hippie-like realm. Anti-peeve, but related to @Annber03's post: I am going to see Alice in September! Whooooo! With Rob Zombie (my celebrity BF) and Ministry.

Back at you. (Also, I’m watching Friday’s Dateline and someone on it just now said “pig DNA.”)

I have not said otherwise re. the first 2.5 lines of your post. But almost none of the rest of it has anything at all to do with my comments. Clearly this means a lot to you, so I’m tossing out the ol’ “agree to disagree,” as excessive use of the word “pig” in this context is just gross, especially when there no equivalent assigned to Tom.

Extra post — sorry; the quoting thing was being sassy.

This doesn’t really have that much to do with what I was commenting about, so no, not my bottom line, but OK, I guess? It seems like you think I’m saying that it was OK that Ariana helped Tom to cheat but not OK for Raquel. I am not and I clearly don’t think that, but I maintain my opinion that the two scenarios are different. Both wrong, but not to the same degree. Again, it’s fine to disagree.

THANK YOU! I was trying and trying to get it without purposely looking it up, haha! (I don't know why I do this.) Now I just need to know what's up with this implication of children showing up with fruit platters.

@peacheslatour Have you watched the Weird Al movie? I liked it.

I agree -- that was my point; that there are differences. I generally don't think super highly of people who knowingly help someone else cheat -- especially if, once caught, they treat the wronged party cruelly (maybe "cruel" is too strong a word for how Ariana treated Kristen, considering that Kristen admits that she was not being her best self during that time [understandably]). But Ariana was still not the actual "cheater" while Raquel and especially Tom were. And if Kristen herself doesn't see her own situation to be as extreme as Ariana's, I certainly wouldn't. Did she get a new BF too quickly? How is that determined? I might venture that being betrayed on such a scale makes it easier, not harder, to commit to moving up and forward. Plus, she's not 22; in my experience, it doesn't take as long at her age to decide whether someone could be a good match.

A peeve I’ve had for as long as I can remember — literally since I was a little kid: When people, in real life and on TV, recount something a child says, they almost always start with, “Mommy, mommy!” I can’t remember ever hearing a real-life kid do this. And I didn’t say that when I was one! I remember being super pissed off at my mom when I heard her telling someone about something I’d said and tacking on that ridiculous “Mommy, mommy!”

I just saw some commercial for some kind of hard lemonade-type canned drinks and the guy (who I believe is famous, but I can’t think of who it is) says that he loves being an adult because it gives a new meaning to bringing a fruit platter to a party, as he carries a bunch of the drink in various fruit flavors. But what is bugging me is the implication that, I guess, non-adults tend to bring literal fruit platters to parties?

I know. I haven’t implied that Kristen wasn’t hurt. And back then, I thought that both Tom and Ariana were wrong(and I still do). And I like Kristen. But she herself doesn’t find the two scenarios comparable. I am a part of “anyone who has been hurt” (who isn’t?) but I find that there are indeed most definitely different degrees of hurt — not that I can measure those degrees in anyone other than myself, obviously. It’s fine to disagree on this.

Sure. But she wasn't also Kristen's good friend who hung out at group functions with Tom and Kristen; they don't appear to have done it in the apartment; I don't know, but I don't think, that the affair went on as planned even though Kristen's grandma and dog died... And while Ariana is not some innocent in the Kristen situation, it was Tom who was doing the actual cheating (in both situations). Yes, it's the same crime, but a far different degree, in my opinion.

I always think I will do this. But then the idea of someone else straightening it (beautifully!) just takes over! And I'm already there, so...I just can't resist!

And a prolonged affair -- with apparent talk of being "in love" -- with a mutual close friend, as opposed to some kind of something with a random chick. Plus all the subterfuge and collusion and the fact that it was going on right under her nose (even if she was present), and in her house while she was away because her grandma died -- all the shit that would plague my brain indefinitely if it happened to me.

That whole “forgive to move forward” thing is fine and whatever, but someone doesn’t have to forgive in order to move forward. If you have no plans to keep someone in your life, why does it matter if you forgive them? Seems to me like Ariana is managing to move forward without forgiving, as far as what we see. And not to get philosophical, but forgiveness is not, IMO, something you can control. You can want to forgive and say you forgive and act as such, which is all perfectly OK and even laudable, but forgiveness is like, say, disliking the taste or sounds or look of certain things — it just is and you can control only how you deal with it.

"Any time"? We saw like 5 minutes of them, and she's under contract to be in X amount of scenes with the rest of the cast; he's not. They probably spent the time that we didn't see (i.e., most of the trip) doing stuff together. And while the dinner did seem awkward and inorganic, that may be because they already had this same conversation in a normal-person way off camera; because it was somewhat expositional, maybe they were asked to do it again -- or maybe the talking points were suggested to them. And he clearly had a friend in the area that he also wanted to hang out with. I would think that if he was too eager to get himself front and center on camera, that would seem more like a fake and transactional relationship; people would say he's riding coattails to boost his own business. Maybe he just doesn't care about being on the show, regardless of whether he's an influencer? I totally 100% wouldn't want to be either, had I a partner who was on one (and some might say that this show would do the exact opposite of helping him promote a healthy lifestyle).

YOU ARE THE BEST! I am not 100% certain, but judging by how much Dateline I watch, I am at a solid 99%! I might rewatch it to make sure, hahahha! Thanks!

Eh, the rest of her dress was floor length, wasn’t it? I thought it was. I have no issue with the amount of skin the dress showed, but I was horrified at the fit and the hideousness of it, hahahhaa! That shit-show looked like it would need to be pulled and straightened and adjusted all the livelong day!