Jel

Losing Tucker not just to Mackenzie, but also to Angela!? Which one of you angered the BB gods?

This episode felt like penance.

I’m not saying I think Tamra is a shape shifting reptilian person, but given that she couldn’t seem to stop herself from vacuuming up that cricket that passed by her mouth, I wouldn’t be that surprised to find out she is.

Can we settle on not rough, but rough on her? Agreed it’s harder for her, but the competition itself? Not that bad. Imo. Maybe I have turned mean in my old age!

Yes, of course things like age and weight can factor in to the level of difficulty. It would have been easier for a younger, fitter person, but that's beside the point. The punishments are not individually tailored -- you get what you get, the luck of the draw. Compared to other punishments, punishments that any one of them could have received, I did not find this one "cruel". That's all I'm saying. I don't disagree that Angela, being older and less fit than other housemates, had a harder time, but that's not relevant to the overall evaluation of the difficulty level or the cruel/kind measure of this punishment. Angela has had an incredibly fair season for someone of her age and fitness level. Other seasons' competitions were way more physically demanding. She's also behaved like an idiot and has still been saved from the block. All things considered, she's one of the luckiest contestants in BB history!

This season is weirding me out. Tucker started out as Evel Dick Jr and over a few weeks has turned into the Seinfeld episode where Jerry gets in touch with his feelings. Also, the whole "we can hold hands now whenever we want" to Rubina. Hold hands? Huh. And his devotion to Angela? And being hurt by the actions of his housemates. Is this the same guy from a few weeks ago? What is going on?! I thought Angela's punishment was pretty easy actually. Much better than the woman who had to score 2,000 goals. Walking eight miles? Cold showers? Getting slimed? I don't see how that's any worse than many other punishments or competitions they've held over the years. Maybe we're into a kinder, gentler era of BB and BB fandom. I blame microplastics ;) I also loved the Mattrix; and also lol'd many times.

I always thought that was a big part of the genius of Derrick's play. He really understood that.

Aww why did they have to do Cedric like that? Tucker makes me think Evel Dick, but 45-50 years ago. Hope he's a Suicidal Tendencies fan because there's going to be a lot of those shirts in his future. Grodner really has a type.

Wow, old triangle headed Tamra was really showing her true colors tonight. The instigating, the evil smirking, so much eveil smirking, the digs, the jabs. It was hard to watch. And yet the thing that bothers me the most tonight is the fact that you all*, with your infernal show watching and forum posting have made it possible for her to buy a house in Big Bear!!! Granted it's the ugliest house, and her fugly decorating is fug, but still. WHAT HAVE WE DONE!? *And also me Exactly.

For anyone interested, I did a 30 second google about HWs first year salaries. I found a couple of comments that suggest it's less than 100K per year, first year, or was about 8-10 years ago, for a couple of them. And hey everyone, Tamra wants us to know she doesn't like to be around toxic people. Huh. Well thanks, Let's Get Her Naked Wasted, for letting us know about your high moral standards!

Do you have any idea of Jenn's RHoOC salary? It couldn't be less than 200, right? That made me sad, too.

He offered to pay her full show salary if she didn't go on the show, hey? Well sir, I don't believe it. In fact, it seems like something designed to serve one purpose: stick it to Shannon. Like if you wanted to come up with something to make Shannon feel bad, you could say you're having tons of sexy time (check) (and also, barf), and old cheapskate MacGruder has suddenly got tons of money that he wants to spend on Alexis (but not on Shannon!). Then, to add insult to injury, she gets the same kind of dog as Shannon. Besides Giggy, what dog was more beloved than Archie? The whole thing seems very SWF.

I find Angela exhausting in every way. Manic when she’s happy, manipulative tearless crying, angry tirades, insulting physical features, etc. She’s easily the worst this season. I usually love a delusional houseguest, but she’s the wrong kind of delusional. She really put me off with the “crazy eyes”. Glass houses, bish.

I’m liking Jenn Aydin more this season. Her Danielle impression always makes me laugh. Luis seems to be in a perpetual state of anger. And he’s either expressing it, or repressing it and just barely reining it in with his SERENITY NOW mental health program. I’m getting too old for all the yelling on these shows.

Yes, exactly. It felt we were watching All About Eve in real time. From people to dogs, the woman cannot be trusted. Maybe it corrupted her, or maybe it exposed her. I don't know, but something ain't right there.

Y'all better stop laughing... your numbers are drawing ever closer, and before you know it, you'll be Scheana's best friend next. ;)

You're right, Gina did not handle it very well. Tactless! But, imagine yourself in Gina's position -- she's new to real estate, she's working on developing a client list she hopes will be repeat clients, and she tells a client that Jenn is good for the rent. She knows approximately how much money a second seasoner would make, so Gina feels confident that Jenn can pay her rent. Jenn probably could have paid her rent if she didn't spend it on other things, but anyway. So now the client, if he stays a client, will assume Gina's judgment is not good. That does affect Gina. Gina's fault was naively trusting a friend. Not the worst crime in the great scheme of things. She definitely could have been kinder about the way she said it though. If Jenn was spending her money differently Id probably feel differently, but what she spends it on seems so frivolous. Feels a little, "Sorry kids, bad news - we are being evicted from our home, but on the bright side, I finally bought a Birkin!" Ya know? I like Jenn and really thought she was a nice person, but this has made me wonder,

And if it's anyone, pray God, let it be a Primetimer-er. Maybe we need to come up with a hand signal ;)

Please no.

100% this. If you have enough money for hair and makeup and new clothes, you have enough money to pay your rent. I like Jenn, but I am really put off by her entitled attitude. And I agree with Gina -- you buy or rent what you can afford, and if you want more, you work a little harder, or save a little more. I understand why she was pissed, if she stuck her neck out and vouched for her friend and then the friend fails to pay her rent. Of course that will have an effect on her credibility. What's Jenn's defense? "But I'm pretty"?

Remember the movie When Harry Met Sally? In it, Harry is explaining how he sees different types of girlfriends, and he tells Sally that she's the worst kind: High maintenance who thinks she's low maintenance. This is Tom Schwartz to me -- basically a mean, passive aggressive assholey boyfriend/husband who thinks he's a a really nice guy. So nice to other people, but shitty to his partner -- the worst kind! Katie's hating fed his assholery and Tom's assholery fed Katie's insecurity, which fed her hating. Neither of them receives my Human of the Year award.

To me, Katie is a just an old mean girl with decades of experience at rationalizations and justifications for her mean girl behavior. The flashbacks really reminded me of this. She gloms on to what she decides is a "legit" reason to dislike someone (doesn't have to be something done to her, can be on behalf of someone else) and then works tirelessly to ensure that grudge is carried. Please, Katie, "hating" is not a hobby. It's just such a terrible look and terrible way to live. Her friends seem to really love and value her friendship, and that says alot of good things about her. So if she could just drop the recreational hating it would be awesome.

Yes, Kyle is very passive aggressive towards her sister. Lots of “Yeah it was bad, but *I* didn’t say it!” No, but you sat there and mhmmed and laughed along. I’m beyond sick of her. No doubt there’s a complicated family dynamic there with plenty of dysfunction, but the fact that she still feels like a little kid when sshe’s talking to Kathy is on 50 plus year old Kyle. This may be just me, but not getting to hear Kathy’s rant— theft! 😜

My objection was the cast's "confusion" over her name. I don't know her background, but I do know that Eagle Woman is a Native American name and it's rude and bigoted to openly mock the "unusual" (to some) names of another culture. It's not acceptable. If she's a fake, a phony, a cultural appropriator is another matter entirely. But even if she is all of those things, it's still wrong to mock Native American names. Is this debatable? Surely you didn't mean, she's a fake and phony cultural appropriator, so therefore it's fine to mock Native American names, right?

She makes me think of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”. Just surrounded by a bunch of people who will tell her what she wants to hear as long as, in her case, she keeps writing cheques.