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In my warped childhood (sort of) I used to go on Star Trek cruises. The guests were from all the various ST incarnations and a few other SF shows (Babylon 5 actors showed up a lot)...but always *after* their shows were off the air--usually many years past. I always assumed it was because the actors didn't have a week or 10 days to spend on a cruise while they were still filming; not to mention, the extra money would come in handy later. But the cruises were always sold out, and usually long in advance; so I'd guess that SPN can go on for a long, long time after the show ends. (BTW, they're still going on, because I'm apparently still on the mailing list, even though I haven't been on a cruise for about 15 years.) (On a personal note, I had a blast on those cruises! They weren't regimented like the current Cons: it was a cruise that had a special room set up for the ST events, but for the rest of the time, you and the guests and their families were just on a cruise, so you could run into them at any time. Everyone was very respectful, understanding that this was a vacation for the actors, too, so while there was still some fangirling (especially when you came face-to-face with someone unexpectedly), there were no outbursts or anything that might make anyone uncomfortable. Plus, everything was included: one or two "panel" discussions every day, a cabaret night when all the guests performed, autographs, signed photos of all the guests and one group photo with you and all the stars together. (You could also ask any of the stars...politely...if they would pose with you. I have a nice picture of Tuvok leaning over my shoulder at the dinner table.) I do have to admit that by the time I started on the cruises, the big stars weren't going on them, so you can picture the cruise like a week spent with all the con guests *without* J2. Still fun, though.)

I think Azazel made the deal with John because he needed the Colt in order to open the Hell Gate and let Lilith out. Getting John to hell was just icing on the cake. And if he broke the first seal, then so much the better. But if you believe the "destiny" part of the angel story, then it was always going to be Sam & Dean, not John. So maybe they maneuvered to get Dean to hell in the first place, carefully waited till he broke before rescuing him, and then told him about John being so strong in order to make Dean doubt himself enough so he would believe he was too weak to win, and he'd agree to let Michael wear him. Remember, even if the demons weren't planning to start the Apocalypse, there were a whole bunch of things that had to happen before Lucifer was set free, ie: 1. The vessel(s) had to be born and infected with demon blood (as Azazel said, "makes 'em big and strong, better than Wheaties"...which might also explain why Sam was so much taller than his family.) 2. A Righteous Man had to first go to hell, and then break there. 3. The Colt had to be found, because it was needed to open the Devil's Gate 4. Azazel had to actually *get* the Colt, so he could hand it to his “pageant” winner. 5. The half-demon special child had to get into the cemetery and open the Devil’s Gate 6. Lilith had to get free through the Gate. 7. Lilith had to break all the necessary seals, and *only then* 8. Lilith had to die. And I suspect she had to die at the exact spot in the convent where her blood could open Lucifer’s cage. And finally: 9. Lucifer’s vessel *had to say yes.* (Sam may have been necessary for the apocalypse, but Luci still needed a meatsuit to get around and take charge, thus, Nick) All that just to spring Luci from the cage. If *any* of those didn't happen, or happened in the wrong order (if Lilith was killed before she broke the rest of the seals, eg) then it wouldn't happen at all. I think Lucifer knew about (and was planning for) the Apocalypse. That was his endgame. After all, why rule hell when you can rule heaven, hell *and* earth? So he wanted a vessel that was "archangel compatible" (thanks, SueB!) and that could be powered up when needed to hold him. IA that Azazel probably had no clue about it. Remember, Luci didn't think much of demons in general, and had no reason to confide his plans to anyone.

IA with all of this. No, Dean isn't the first seal, he's the instrument by which the seal was broken. I don't necessarily agree that John would have worked, too, because of Gabriel saying that it had to be a Cain/Abel thing of brother-against-brother; plus Ruby and Zachariah and Lucifer all telling the boys "it always had to be you." I'm pretty sure the demon endgame was just to free Lucifer, while the angels (including Lucifer himself) were planning the Apocalypse from the start, so that's where Destiny comes in. But I still think Free Will is the more important part. It seems to me that God set it up originally, even for the Apocalypse, since the angels can lead everyone right to the edge, get everything in place and waiting for the order to roll, but only the vessels have the power to say yes or no. I have a whole meta about God wanting the angels to have free will, and that’s why he sent Cas to the Winchesters, knowing that Cas was the angel most likely able and willing to learn from them, but that’s for another discussion.

Sam said that his powers disappeared after Azazel died, but I think that was just him wanting to be normal, and subconsciously suppressing them. Ruby had to give him a reason to *want* to use them, and an excuse that he would accept as to why he still had them. The demon blood worked for that. I don't know if the addiction was part of that/intended, or just Sam's need to have something outside of himself causing the problems, though I like Awesome's and SueB's comments above. Now, the next question for me is, does Sam still have powers? Does he still have the demon blood? And there have been way too many conflicting stories about that. At different times, it was said that God cleared up the addiction (and possibly the blood itself); that jumping into the pit absolved him; that cleansing his soul to take on the challenges cleaned his blood, too. I think it’s just a convenient “go-to” plot device that gets pulled out when needed and ignored the rest of the time, and I don’t think we’ll get a definitive answer unless the writers need it for a grand finale. And I think it would be a cheat. I like the idea of two *humans* taking on the big guns, and winning. No super-duper-extra-powers needed. That’s Batman vs. Superman, after all.

Actually, I think my ideal ending would be the boys, bloody and triumphant after defeating whatever the biggest-bad-in-the-universe the writers had come up with, staggering to the car together, supporting each other and grinning. Then Dean tosses the weapons into the trunk, says, "we've got work to do," and they smile and nod at each other, slam the trunk lid down and ride off into the sunset.

I DO NOT want the boys going out in a blaze of glory. Do. Not. Want. Half the characters on the show have *already* gone out in a blaze of glory. Ellen and Jo, literally. Sam in Swan Song. Dean when he killed Dick Roman. They’ve all died so many times, for so many good causes, another one would be anticlimactic, even if this time it *is* permanent. Besides, they were PROMISED “peace when you are done,” and by god, I want them to have it, even if the only way to get it is with them in heaven, surrounded by their loved ones. (Preferably after a long, happy, "normal" life...) Or…and here’s my half-assed, middle-of-the-night thought…since they’ve already wiped out most of the people in charge in heaven, hell and purgatory, what if the boys take over? Maybe *that* was supposed to be their destiny? Think about it…Dean as the Righteous Man in charge of heaven and Sam, the once-and-future King, as the new King of Hell. And Cas can be the liaison, working with both of them. Dean can bring the idea of free will to the angels, and Sam can work on rehabilitating the souls in hell, thus saving them. No one says that hell *has* to be eternal torture (remember Crowley’s version of eternal boredom)…so why not have it as a prison for the totally unredeemable, halfway house for those who can be saved? (And maybe then, there won’t be any more demons, because the souls won’t be twisted by centuries of torture…) So…Heaven and hell, working together to save people. I think that’s a blaze of glory for the boys. (And I hereby turn the plot bunny loose for whoever wants to write the fic, since I'm pretty sure the show won't do it…)

I appreciate that. I don't read Tumblr at all, and have enough trouble with the Sam/Dean fighting. I did get thoroughly flamed years ago on a supposedly "bi-bro" site for expressing an opinion (I thought politely) that was pro-Dean--flamed to the point that the moderator apologized to me via PM, but it kind of soured me on expressing UOs. (edited to put my comment in the proper place instead of part of the quote...took a while to figure it out!)

This may be a truly UO, but I think what's happened to Castiel over the years is the fault of Destiel. In an effort to downplay the "connection" between Dean and Cas while still keeping Misha as a fan-favorite cast member, they've tried first to separate him from Dean (taking on Leviathan, giving him more time/getting more of a connection with Sam), then gave him his own storyline--which, by all accounts, was a terrible failure, and proved that Cas by himself isn't nearly as interesting as Cas with the Winchesters; and now they've come up with Casifer in order to allow him to interact with Dean without the Destiel undertones. I can't say it's a good idea, but at least it allows them to be in the same scenes without playing to the shippers (though, yes, they've certainly done enough over the years to encourage shipping to those who are looking for it). I think maybe it was making the actors a little uncomfortable (or maybe it's just Carver), so they're trying to back away from it a little. Of course, it's still not really working, because it was the Cas/Dean interaction that was most interesting to many people, not just their meatsuits (oops, I mean, just the actors themselves.) As full disclosure, I have to say I do not like Destiel; in fact, I don't ship anyone. I like the boys on their own, and I honestly resent the way it seems that a very vocal part of the audience (don't know how large it is) can't allow friendship between *any* two (attractive) characters (male, female, or any combination) without wanting the relationship to be sexual. Aren't people allowed to have friends any more? On a deeper basis than just "hey, let's go out for a beer," kind of way, that is. And the Winchesters in particular *need* friends they can talk to about their issues. Even Dean, the master of denying feelings, had some issues that he couldn't handle on his own (going back to John's death). They used Bobby as the family therapist for all those years (because I don't think *anyone* ships Dean/Bobby) and after that, the "safe" character of Charlie; but without them, there's no one. (Even surrogate-mother-figure Ellen got shipped!) Cas, in particular, started out as more or less asexual--a totally clueless, truly "inhuman" being, who gradually became more humanized by his contact with the Winchesters. I enjoyed watching his development, and watching Dean finally being able to trust someone other than family; and to me, Destiel just makes it less important as character development for both of them. Please don't flame me for my opinion. I'm happy letting others believe whatever they want, but I truly dislike those people who insist that they're right and everyone else is either wrong or denying something, and I do think that played a major part in what's happened to Cas over the years, even though it's the writers/showrunner who did the actual damage (and so clumsily.)

All it takes is one over-the-top crazy as opposed to normal crazy fans (look at John Lennon!) I wonder if it's an insurance requirement of the network/producers, the way they take out policies on stars/won't let them do dangerous stunts because the show's toast if anything happens to The Star. With all the cons and public appearances, they do have a lot more contact with fans than other actors.

Well (and pleasepleaseplease "no"): For the season finale, they could have Crowley dead and Lucifer taking his "rightful place" as King of Hell again. After all, how else do you get a Big Bad to top God's Sister? Then all the angels could unite (with Cas at their head) to fight against him. DO. NOT. WANT. (As a thought for that...what happened to Death's ring when he "died"? The boys should still have the other three...)

OK, my fears/hopes based on the end of this episode: It seems to me that they're setting up a yet another "Sam must save Dean because he's too weak to save himself" scenario (this time with Dean's acknowledgment.) And yet again, I'm terribly, terribly afraid that means that Sam will decide he has to do "whatever it takes" including making a deal with Lucifer (once Casifer comes forth, which I'm expecting shortly). That it's going to be set up that Sam has to make some incredibly stupid sacrifice (or something equally abhorrent involving Lucifer and next year's storyline). (I had to look up the quote from Carver's most recent interview. He said: "Is Lucifer actually making a smart point about the best way to stop Amara? I think that will lead Sam to take certain positions coming up that might diverge from his brother.") That, to me, does not auger well with a new take on the brothers/story. My hopes: Because Sam already said no to Lucifer all on his own, he's going to recognize that working with him in any way, shape or form is a definite no. So this time he won't be so stupid. And Dean is going to be able to overcome his own "addiction" and be able to fight through Amara's hold on him without Sam having to save him. So this time they *both* can be strong and overcome their own issues. That they can have faith in each other instead of one feeling he has to "save" the other. Of course, I'm more in the "fingers crossed and don't expect anything" mode, because my hopes have been dashed again and again over the years.

See, here's where what we see is colored by our feeling towards the characters, I think. Because what *I* see in most of your examples (aside from the obvious, which is that both Gamble and Carver and everyone else who has any say in the matter want to keep the angst a'coming and will go to the most ridiculous lengths to do so) is that *Dean* comes across as the one who's a dick for bringing up all those dead-and-buried issues over again. That after he'd already said it was all forgiven, he still brings it up at odd moments. And I put all that on the showrunners, who seem to think the only way to get drama into the show is to have the boys mad at each other. As far as I can remember, Dean has *always* forgiven Sam for anything he's done that was out of his control (ie, apocalypse, soullessness, possession, whatever) and has told him so repeatedly (including "it wasn't you" when possessed Sam killed a hunter and shot him and after Gadreel killed Kevin); and, when Sam was agonizing over the Apocalypse, he reminded him that *he* was the one who broke the first seal, and "who would have thought killing Lilith was a bad idea?" So it wasn't ignored or put entirely on Sam, at least until the showrunners decided to start the brother-against-brother shit again. About Amy and Benny? I never got the feeling that Sam hating Benny was payback in any way. What I did get (which was said outright several times) was that Sam resented Benny and how much Dean trusted him, and that to me came out sounding jealous and childish and OOC for Sam, who had tried to convince Dean starting in season 2 that not all monsters were evil, and that they deserved a chance to try to change. This isn't to say that Dean doesn't have a boatload of hidden anger that comes up now and then, but it's about the personal things, what he called "choices" in Southern Comfort (though the writers stuck in a bunch that *weren't* Sam's choice just to make it sound worse, and, of course, brought everything back up in Sacrifice, which made it sound like Dean was still angry and unforgiving.) What Dean has had a hard time forgiving is what he sees as betrayals--so he wasn't angry at Sam for what he did while under the influence of demon blood, but that he "chose a demon over his own brother." That he *repeatedly* ignored advice, warnings and pleas from everyone...angels and hunters and prophets and Dean and Bobby...and went ahead and did what he wanted to...which (unfortunately) tended to turn out badly. And, unfortunately, for his "choice" in not looking for Dean in season 8. You can blame the writers and/or Carver for making Sam do something so OOC, but you can't really blame Dean for being resentful, especially since Sam got defensive and/or attacked, rather than just saying "I'm sorry" at the time, which I think would have cut off the anger at the start. As I think I said in the Into the Mystic thread, IMO Sam has apologized for the big things that *weren't* in his control, but not for those personal things which were much more hurtful to Dean. And they go as far back as season 1, where Sam said outright that he hated hunting and couldn't wait to "be a real person again" and Hunted in season 2, where he took off in the middle of the night after Dean had literally BEGGED him to stay and work things out (and he'd promised he would.) He has repeatedly hit Dean at his weakest points: his fear of abandonment and low self-esteem, and used them as a weapon--sometimes deliberately, sometimes *probably* unconsciously. Now, I'm *not* saying that Sam doesn't have a right to live his own life and get angry and do what he thinks he has to--but that he also has to acknowledge that he's hurting his brother and maybe he should come up with another way or talk it out instead of just taking off. Or at least apologize for hurting him! (What bothered me most about the Flagstaff story in Dark Side of the Moon was that the supposedly emo, empathetic Sam either didn't realize or didn't care that Dean would be worried out of his mind when Sam was missing. When my sister had a big fight with my dad and ran away as a teenager, she still called mom to tell her she was all right, so that she wouldn't worry.) I had a whole lot more here which was heading off onto a whole different topic, so I'll save and post it later separately (or not) since I'm guessing others have brought it up before and I just didn't read it. But right now it's 1:30 in the morning and I'm probably not making a lot of sense right now.

So let's just chalk it up to bad writing and put the blame on Carver and/or the writers where it belongs. And hopefully (fingers crossed) they'll drop the lies/anger/resentment/guilt trope once and for all.

Tell you what...maybe those sections of the fandom would "pipe down" about Purgatory if the other sections would do the same about Gadreel...especially since Gadreel wound up saving the day (and Cas's, Charlie's and Sam's life) any number of times, Sam called him one of his "real friends" and admitted that he never felt threatened by him. Nobody ever said anything good came out of Dean being in Purgatory. But I don't really want to start up the fights again. They've both done bad, bad things to each other, and usually with good intentions. IA (and believe most "sections" would agree) that it's Carver's fault for bad character writing. And I don't think even the most rabid Deangirl would say Sam was having the time of his life while Dean was in Purgatory. All you have to do is watch his interactions with Amelia to see he's barely holding on (even her father noticed it.) Honestly, all I thought they needed was a line saying "I looked. But then I couldn't do it any more." And I think Dean would have accepted that, the same way he accepted Sam saying "You were rotting in hell and there was nothing I could do about it." There was no blame assigned then. But there was also no reason for Sam to be *angry* at Dean for returning, and for his being so defensive about Amelia except that he obviously felt guilty...and he was blaming Dean for his leaving Amelia, even though he'd already chosen to leave before Dean returned; the same way he blamed Dean for tricking him with Gadreel, even though he was the one who actually said yes. And he said yes because he trusted his brother to save him, without asking how, so maybe he was angry at himself for *not* asking and he turned it on Dean. (That's a pretty common reaction, even in my own family.) I'm not saying Dean was blameless, but neither was Sam, and I'm tired of hearing him complain about being the victim as if he'd had no choice in the matter. As to the "supposed agreement", that's all it was. I've never met (or read) anyone who'd ever heard of it before (much less know what was agreed to), so it's obvious it was just added in this episode to give Sam an excuse for not looking and a reason to be angry. I just pretend the line never existed.

Just to jump into the apology battle (and thanks to Demented for offering to run the statistics...) IMO, Sam tends to apologize for big things that were out of his control (ie, starting the apocalypse or not being able to save Dean from Hell). Dean tends to apologize for things that impact Sam. IIRC, neither one of them has apologized (or probably ever will) for things they did that they felt were necessary (ie, saving the other by whatever means necessary; or, on a smaller scale, things like killing Amy or not trusting Benny), though both have admitted to feeling guilty about them and have (sometimes) apologized for hurting the other. But they would still do the same thing over again if the same situation came up. (And I don't remember either one having a problem with apologizing to other people when it's appropriate.) So it's not just the number of apologies or who's the one who says "I'm sorry," but what they're apologizing for, and what they *haven't* apologized for. (Sorry, but I still really, *really* want Sam to tell Dean that he didn't mean his speeches in Sharp Teeth and The Purge; that he was just (understandably) angry but he doesn't really believe the terrible things he said, because we know that Dean *did* take them to heart.) On a personal note, I believe there is value in actually *saying and hearing* the words "I'm sorry" and "I forgive you." It doesn't have to be said over and over again, but should be spoken out loud. It acknowledges that someone was hurt, and that both people know it. As someone upthread said, it doesn't mean that all is forgotten, or that the one hurt won't still be wary, at least for a while, but just having someone take responsibility for their own words or actions is very, very important, even among families.

. Dean gave Death's ring back in Appointment in Samarra. I don't know what happened to it when Death died. Since it was the "one ring," the others wouldn't work without it. Lots of bad thoughts and yelling at the TV on this one, but pretty much everything has already been covered by others. My only other comment (to the characters and us, too): Who was it who said the definition of insanity (or stupidity) is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?

I can't really disagree with your thoughts, or (actually) anyone else's here. All are possible, based on what our own interpretation of the characters. I do, however, want to clarify my thinking about the bus trip: you're right that no one would care about a random kid getting on a city bus to go downtown, say, or somewhere within the city limits, especially in daytime (though the first time I went on a NYC subway all alone I was 12). I think there should be concern if a random 9-year-old went to a Greyhound bus station and wanted to buy a ticket to another city without an adult. (If nothing else, they might think he was a runaway and wouldn't want to get in trouble with cops.) But since (as has been pointed out) we have no way of knowing how far Sam was actually going, it doesn't really matter. Besides, I'm pretty sure Dean would have taught Sam all his tricks about telling a good story ('I'm going to my grandma's, my dad is going to meet me there," or something similar.) We know John ditched the boys frequently--stealing food for Sam was how Dean ended up at the Boy's Ranch in Bad Boys, and they were both alone for at least a week in After School Special. But they were always together, or it was mentioned that they were dropped off at Bobby's or Pastor Jim's. IIRC, the first time we saw Sam being left alone while John and Dean hunted before this was The Girl Next Door, when Sam was already a teenager; so that's why I was basing my opinion of 9 (especially with only one year of training) being too young for Sam alone (Dean alone I would have no problem with, since he'd been in charge of Sam pretty much his whole life). I know I tend to point out way too many plot/logic holes, because they annoy me so much (former librarian, freelance editor/proofreader...) But sometimes, once I get 'em off my chest, I can then handwave (or "talking dragon" or "wizards"). My apologies in advance if I complain too much or too often.

I actually don't remember details of Sam and Sully's talk either (I was under the impression that it was Sully who brought up the idea of running away first, not Sam)...but I do remember Sully standing, all excited, with his little bindlestaff (or whatever it's called) ready to leave, when Sam told him he was going to hunt with his family and he didn't want Sully around any more. For whatever reason, Sully did try his hardest to get Sam to come with him, instead of joining John and Dean. I agree that John didn't have the best parenting style, though I thought that it was Dean (as he said in AHBL) who wanted Sam to have a childhood as long as possible (but John must have agreed, at least sometimes, because Dean would never have gotten his way if John hadn't allowed it.) But that seems to go against *John* not wanting Sam along this time and Dean pushing for him to come (though maybe that was Dean not wanting to leave his little brother alone...) Sheesh. Never mind. *talking dragon...*

This may just be my interpretation, but I thought Sam *wanted* to go on the hunt and was sulking because Dad wouldn't let him. At 9, he'd just learned about monsters the year before and he mentioned he'd been training for a year and I think he really wanted to go to prove himself. I don't think John thought he would purposely get in the way or argue with his decisions, just that Sam wasn't ready yet for hunting, even (or maybe especially) with his brother (who would likely be spending more time watching Sam than the monster) along. So yeah, not wanting to take him along makes sense from John's POV. But on the other hand, if he didn't think he was ready for a hunt yet (and especially if he was worrying about something evil following him) I don't see him leaving Sam alone *yet*--not while there were other options like Bobby and Caleb and Pastor Jim. And again, yes, a bright 9-year-old can buy a ticket and get on a Greyhound alone, but not without attracting the attention of the ticket taker and station manager and various do-gooders, which I'm sure John wanted to avoid. Again, YMMV.

SueB, I agree completely with your short answer. I just wish I didn't have to go "talking dragon, talking dragon" so frequently these days (which, btw, I like so much better than "handwave".) But I still think Sam should take that into consideration (or at least, Sully's lapses of judgment) before following his advice. But we all know Sam will do what he thinks he has to, no matter what anyone else says.

I was fully prepared to hate this episode, because I was sure it was going to be a total retcon and wind up showing how Dean *didn't* take care of Sam at all and that's why he was left alone and needed an imaginary friend. So I was at least a little relieved that they didn't go quite that far, though I agree with everyone upthread that (a) there's no way John would leave Sam alone at age 9, *especially* if he was deemed too young to hunt with them (I don't know when John realized--or feared-- the demon was after Sam, but I think it was before then); (b) similarly, no way John would ask Sam to get on a bus alone (and as for calling the station and telling them...well, that's hardly staying under the radar). Even if they weren't going to Minnesota, I would think a stop at Pastor Jim's en route to Milwaukee would be more logical at that age. After all, they can get anywhere in the country in two hours or less! And ( c) yes, as others have pointed out, Sam is way too old for an imaginary friend at age 9. It gets confusing, because I can't see him inventing/calling Sully at a younger age, because I think Dean was pretty much hovering (especially after the shtriga), and yeah, there was always that .45 his dad gave him. I'm probably too invested in that right now, because I just finished reading "Memoirs of an Imaginary Friend" where Budo, the narrator, points out that most imaginary friends disappear right around kindergarten, when kids start living in the real world and making their own friends (Budo's boy was in third grade, but that was because he was autistic and wasn't nearly as connected to the real world as other kids were.) And how sad is it that I'm debating what happened in a TV show by using examples from a novel? But there was one interesting point in both works: in the book, Budo was terrified of disappearing, which is what happens when your child stops believing in you. He was considering having himself and other imaginary friends make themselves indispensable to their humans, in order to keep themselves alive. So, when you consider Sully's actions, as Catrox said: This is exactly what I was thinking. I mean, who encourages a *9-year-old* to run away--where? What would he do? Was Sully planning on hiding him out and bringing him food or was he going to make himself visible and become his new "father"? And even giving him the benefit of the doubt, saying he didn't think things through, and it was this same lack of foresight that caused Reese's sister's accident--then why should Sam trust Sully's judgment now about jumping into the cage? I'd like to think this was very subtle writing, but I'm pretty sure it's just sloppy. *sigh*

Are you talking Comcast/Xfinity? Because I can get it on my home cable box. (Of course, I have the old Comcast box, not the new fancy Xfinity one, which seemed way too confusing to me. But I had the woman in the store demo it for me by finding Supernatural on it.) On mine, I go to TV shows/by network/The CW...which is at the end of the "c"s. I think you can also just search for the show by title. The online on demand says it has the last ep free for two more days. You can also watch online at the CW site. Hope you've found it by now!

I'm new to this thread so I don't know if this is what it's for...but if anyone wants to read my old stories...(I haven't been writing much lately and about half my stories were eaten when the Ungen/Supernaturalville site disappeared), but I still have some of my stories archived at Dean Damage (author name Nachuma) here: http://www.deandamage.com/viewuser.php?uid=316 Not really horror/scary stories, though. Mostly casefics and angst. I'd love some comments/critique from this group. Maybe once my stress levels get back to manageable and I can concentrate again, I'll be able to write (and read!) more. *sigh*

I'd like to think so. But I have a feeling that they'd look for any reason not to cancel the whole show; so if even one person shows up (and that includes the crew that works in Denver) they're going with "the show must go on." The rule is (I think) no refunds for guest stars who don't show up, except for photo/autograph ops. So pray for warm weather!

Ah, yes, that one was fun. I bought an SUV about a week after that, because at the time I had an Accord that couldn't even get out of my driveway much less the streets (too low to the ground to get through the drifts)... On the other hand, it could be 85 on Friday, two feet of snow on Saturday and back to the 60s by Sunday. Colorado. Yeesh. So if there's a blizzard and the airport closes so that no one (including the guest stars) can get in, ticketholders are just SOL?