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I don’t think it’s a comedy either. I think it’s a drama with some comedic elements. And in general, I think this entire season was a clapback to fans which is probably why it’s a mess. They need to stop worrying about the people watching it and just write a good show.
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Put me down for a person who didn’t feel it was a complete season either. It was filler. I hate when shows become hits and lose their trajectory.
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I may need to rewatch. But ultimately he did take her seriously. This is essentially her plan without her as CEO. I keep seeing comments saying she should gotten a commitment. There are no commitments in business. He essentially will go the avenue that’s best for business. I’m not sure that was ever Shiv. But her plan was still smart to bypass regulatory. Also she’s the reason Gerri is back. Ultimate his sexism led to him choosing Tom but this is her plan. I also need to rewatch the season. I mostly feel like a happy ending wasn’t in the cards honestly for any of these people. But I ended feeling bad and bleak for everyone. Shiv in a non working marriage because she wants some sort of home. Roman starting how he finished the most honest of them. Ken is the most adrift and still is.
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That’s the rumor making the rounds. I did not see the script and have no idea how it plays out. The I was in italics and that’s the word making the rounds.
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I don’t know how it will work writing wise But it looks like news outlets have heard too… Via Vulture (Before I go any further, however, I want to tell you on the down-low that exit polls say Jiménez. No leaks, please.) https://www.vulture.com/article/succession-recap-season-4-episode-8-america-decides.html
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The spoiler word on the streets Jiminez wins and looks the Roys backed the wrong guy
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I felt as sick as I did in 2016 and 2020. Bravo to the writers. I had two cups of sleepy time tea to fall asleep I almost never have spoilers because I hate them but I have one. Added to the spoilers thread.
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Am I the only one who thinks Tom’s road back to ATN is the knowledge Shiv has been working with Madson which she foolishly told him
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I thought this was a call out from the therapy episode with her dad. Remember when he made her cry by telling her that Tom wasn’t good enough for her.
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A lot of women with these attributes have turned into good mothers. I don’t think Shiv loves Tom at all. I think she likes that he cares for her. Tom has been hurt by her but also very rarely advocates for himself and let’s her treat him badly.
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I don’t think he’s fine with it. He says he’s fine with it. Like he says the scorpion is a joke but it’s not. He was throwing himself in for the CEO role two episodes ago again. I don’t think he wants a housewife but to constantly be subservient to his wife at the same company is a no for Tom.
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Yes! He probably was fine when she was working in politics. But now she’s his competitor
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You didn’t? How about when her father offers her the CEO role… and he says I thought we wanted that for me. Part of their issue is he wants someone supporting his career not building up her own. This is the position he’s stuck in but he definitely wanted the top role and the supportive wife. Problem is, Shiv wants it too.
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I think the baby is definitely Tom’s and shows just don’t sit around counting the weeks like we do. I agree with a lot that Tom said about Shiv. But with regards to her mothering abilities, he is WAY out of line though. Despite what men think women are not born knowing how to be mothers, it’s something you have to learn how to do. And a woman agreeing to have your baby is never just about you, it’s something that the woman has to feel comfortable doing at that time in her life because it’s a massive undertaking. A lot of Tom’s problem with Shiv’s is he wants a different kind of wife. He wants somebody who’s basically going to back up his career and be the mother of his child. I won’t fault him for that, but he should’ve thought about who he married.
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So Shiv betrays her family because she was boxed out. Madsen takes the info but isn’t remotely sold on Shiv in any kind of role. He needs to think about it. That’s worse than a care package of blood bricks. Will Shiv ever find someone who sees her value? Follow up: Does she have any business value? Will I ever learn to spell Madsen’s name. No excuse I have an entire branch of Swedish relatives. Honestly Tom and Shiv weren’t doing well. Scorpion wasn’t a gift that’s really what he thinks of her. And he’s sort of right. But he’s a jellyfish. Stop bringing breakfast trays to person that almost sent you to prison I just had a brainstorm Tom is the Greg in him and Shiv’s relationship