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He was only in one other episode when the Mercy West people merged with Seattle Grace. He came in for a surgery and insisted on having Ellis operate. When he learned she was dead he then insisted only on Richard. And then he tried to dictate how the surgery should go, insisting he be awake during it. So he was portrayed as arrogant and a little ass-holey, but he wasn't so blatantly sexist. Even last season when Jackson met his father and his dad was telling Jackson about Catherine, he points out that she had the sort of ambition and drive his father liked and that is why she is in the position she is in with the foundation while he was such a disappointment to Harper. This is why his blatant sexism and misogyny stood out so starkly in this episode,

Of course Dina would be team Tanya. I love that her conspiracy theory is that Nancy Kerrigan hit herself in the leg.

I am hoping they don't use the tumor as some way to completely retcon the character. I hope that the "this has been growing for ten years" explanation is just a way to explain why a tumor that big is in her head. I know nothing about tumors, but I imagine something that size doesn't just appear *poof*. So the 10 years thing becomes medically plausible, especially for a benign tumor. So I think a more logical (hopefully) explanation they are working toward is that it eventually got to a size where is was actually affecting her decision making, but that that development was fairly recent. It would neatly explain away all of her terrible treatment of Owen last two years. But it would leave intact all of her real shitty decisions previously. Her reaction to losing her baby, her drug use, her tendency to compare herself to Derek, and her prickly relationship with Meredith don't need a retcon. They work for her character. But as much as I've disliked Amelia from the jump, I have to say that from Season 12 on they really wrote her so badly that she became somewhat irredemable to me. Hands down the worst character on the show for the last two seasons. And with just these last two episodes and seeing some positive character development from characters like April, Maggie and Bailey, I am hopeful that the new EP is addressing a lot of the bad character developments that seem to plague so many of the characters. I am wondering if S13 was so bad because it wasn't just the stories it was so hard to enjoy, but the characters themselves. They felt less like people with flaws and more like caricatures with tics that existed only to further plot.

That was my immediate thought. The stark whiteness and the emptiness is just not right. It is not soothing for either expectant mothers or people with mental illness. Don;t they usually decorate in soft colors, pastels? It almost seems like they've stashed her somewhere. So for now my very, very loose working theory is she lost the baby, somehow her father is involved , she had some sort of mental break or she did something really dangerous and Ana & Co. have hidden her from her father for... reasons. Even though I was kinda relieved in the last ep when she revealed that her abortion story was a lie, I can't really reconcile this show letting one of these characters have and keep a baby.

I know. According to the article when Perez Hilton tweeted a suggestion killing her off, Kim retweeted it and even suggested a recast. I don't see how she could have been any clearer.

Yup. Actually that is one of the more realistic things I've seen on the show as it pertains to getting an internship or job through a job fair like that. When my husband was getting his PhD he had to become a member of his academic professional society so they could go to regional and national conventions where they'd have interviews set up. It is an efficient way to have interviews from schools all over the country in one place who are looking to hire in the market for tenure track professors. And they all took place in big convention centers. One time he had travel to Chicago for it and he had four interviews set up and he came back home so pissed because at one of the schools he was interviewing for, one if the interviewers was this septuagenarian Professor who was about to retire who kept nodding off during the interview while the other interviewer kept apologizing for it. One of his classmates who was also there interviewing at the time came back with a story of one school where the panel had asked about his dissertation thesis and they proceeded to politely shred his theory. The important part is getting the call back, just like Michaeala was saying. That is when you know you are in serious contention and are invited (and flown out) to the school or firm or company and interviewed in a more conventional setting. My husband and his grad school friends all laugh about it now cuz most are duly employed but it is brutal and so competitive when ti is happening.

I dunno. I wonder if this is more a case of the audience knowing what he was doing and the camera work clearly lingering on stuff where so we copped to is much quicker. But IRL, If someone brings up a subject that arrests your attention, in this case it was their old relationship out of the blue, I would think your attention would be wholly focused on them and not your surroundings. In her case, Maggie just seemed truly puzzled why he would be bringing that up now all of sudden after practically ignoring her for a year. It makes sense she'd be more focused on that than in the scans on the wall which unless they pertain to a case she is working on is just white background noise after awhile. Also 90% of the time these folks use hospital spaces to talk about sexy personal business so why not this time too? So I do cut her some slack.

Are people really clamoring for a third movie? The reaction to the last one was so bad. Kim sounds like she just isn't here for it and they just refuse to hear her. Kinda like the Olsen twins with the Full House reboot.

I disagree, Calling an old white man an "old white man" is no more racist than describing the woman who picked up the book you dropped as "a young black woman" is. He is an old white man. In context her statement was a direct reference to what he'd been saying to them and how he was approaching Bailey in the boardroom. He was being condescending, rude and 100% misogynist, saying "“That’s the problem when women are in charge,” and telling Catherine to take Bailey somewhere else "so she can have her feelings" after he fired her. By addressing Catherine and not Bailey that way, he completely dismissed and erased her as person in the room. Catherine's comment to Bailey was an obvious reference to him being of a certain age, rich white man who has had a lot of privilege and is not used to women, especially black women, talking back at him the way Bailey did. In fact, to me the "old white man" comment felt more like an explanation with a side serving "you know why he is the way he is" to excuse his bad behavior so Bailey wouldn't take what he said personally.

Oh i got a real chuckle out of that scene. Amelia ragging on Richard's microscopic tumor compared to her ginormous one was funny. I especially liked her line where she says something like his tumor is so small she could've removed his while other doctor was operating on hers.

Yup. Great episode. Bonnie and Nate are both bitter, betrayed and distrustful. Wonder how that is going to play out. Frank is bordertown creepy now with Ana. I am glad the show didn't pull a bait and switch with the K4 interviews vs. offers. Michaela did well. She was polished, confident and gave good interview. Whereas Asher fumbled a bit but was still better than Connor and Laurel. I am glad the outcomes matched what we saw. Also Michaela's smackdown of whathisface was good. She does that cold steely thing well. Did Asher get an internship? I don't remember. Connor and Laurel kiss and make up. Glad to see that. But please, God, stop crying. Analise is getting her mojo back. Her courtroom scene was fab. But yeah, I agree with her about her bet. Being a drug addict, prostitute, and felon is that woman's normal. Turning that off after 50 years and suddenly being a regular citizen will not be easy and may not be possible without some real support. The therapy scenes were tense and well done. Like a sparring match. Viola and Jimmy are good scene partners. Still don't trust him though. Of course the ending, what would the show be without a mysterious flash forward murder connected to Ana?

If the show were smart, they wouldn't change anything too much right off the bat. Barry and Iris are already in love and living together. There is just enough of their romance to satisfy for character development, but not so much to overwhelm the show. It is still a superhero show, not a romance. Marrying them off just makes it official. If anything were to change it should be their dynamic with Joe. If they were smart, the show would make it clear in subtle ways that their first thoughts when it comes to family is each other first. Whereas in the past, they seemed to revolve around Joe and then each other.

Are they setting up Riggs & Megan to be a thing? And possibly Henderson leaving the show? Granted I never thought Meredith and Riggs had any real chemistry, but their conversation made it sound like they were giving the death knell to their relationship but didn't feel too torn up about it. Or is Megan staying? I know the actress is also on Timeless, but then that got cancelled and then uncancelled. IIRC. I am actually liking Amelia. And Owen. Apart. He has a great rapport with his sister and their scenes feel like they could be siblings. Goes to show how bad romantic chemistry can affect characters. Really don't care about Jo and Alex one way or the other. But glad for their fans that they are getting some traction. I know the show is going for a lighter tone, but I thought Catherine at least would show a little grief over Conrad. I thought she held him in some affection? He was her therapist she went to in Season 12 after the patient beat her up.

I could understand why people might have some lingering question because this is a soap after all and people come back from the dead. But frankly the idea of Ellis sleeping with some other black guy (never seen or even hinted at) at the exact same time she was having an affair with Richard is something that simply hasn't been supported on screen or in story canon. Over the years the show has made pains to establish the true love, serious relationship between Richard and Ellis. She was the only woman and he was the only black guy surgeon on staff in the early 80s. That is what drew them together, their outsider status and working so closely together. But they were so in love they were ready to run away together and leave their spouses. It was heavily implied in the episode with the carousel that she left anyway to go to Boston even without Richard because she was already pregnant with his kid and couldn't stay in Seattle. Obviously, the show could retcon it. They are famous for retconning stuff for drama. But if they do, imo, given all that they have established with the flashback episodes and Ellis' journal, it would feel like and obvious retcon for drama.

For once I did feel bad for Kevin because everyone bailed. Although, I hate to say, I probably would have had the same reaction as Beth when she realized they'd be sitting there for hours. Sitting there watching them do re-takes and scene delays etc. Not like seemless live theater and can be tedious especially if it a show you don't like in the first place. Watching a show like The Manny even on tv with the ability to mute or FF would be a personal hell for me. But I did like her smallish scene with Kevin. It was a nice moment of character revelation or both of them. Makes me wonder if Kevin started to lose some of his asshole tendencies toward Randall after Jack's death or if Randall coming to him for help made Kevin feel needed? I am not a Toby disliker he's okay with me. But I have to say I liked him even more with his "team Kate forevah" speech to Rebecca followed by "let's commence the awkward ride home." He clearly wanted Rebecca to like him as something more than the guy who had a heart attack and fell through a table upon their first meeting. And finally I am not on board with the adoption storyline. I wish they had come up with something else for Beth & Randall. It feels ill conceived and rushed and uncharacteristic. Randall has his neurosis and last year was obviously a crisis of identity for him, but I can't for the life of me imagine Beth, at this point in her life, and given all the upheavels in their family the past year and going back to work, being on board with wanting another kid.

You know, I hadn't thought about this until now, but Wes really does ruin everything. LOL. I actually liked Laurel when it looked like she was going to become a female version of Frank. In the early seasons she was cold and ruthless and you saw that she had the potential to be the same sort of under-the-table operator that Frank was. I could easily see why he liked her then. But then they hooked her up with Wes and I don't think she's stopped crying since. And my irritation with the character reached an all time high at the end of last season. I do sincerely hope this season isn't gobbled up by her woes. I could stand some of the mystery surrounding her and her family if it doesn't come at the expense of the other 3. If I get to really see Michaela and Asher going into Beast Mode doing Connor also doing his part to get back to his old self, then I can put up with the Laurel stuff. I think I did read somewhere that we'll finally learn more about Connor's background so if that happens that would be very welcome.

Yeah, I have to agree. I love Alfred Enoch and was really sad at Wes' death, but I hated how centered stuff was on him. And I actively despised him in season one because of his laser focus on useless Rebecca. I thought this is what the show was going to be about, TBH. And I hope it gets there. I like the personal stuff with the characters but all the dark drama becomes exhausting. At least in the beginning they were actually doing real cases. I'd even welcome something like the Hapstall case again (minus all the personal insertion that went on with them) where you weren't sure what was true and lots of stuff coming out of the woodwork and Ana using Frank to "create" situations that help their client.

Much better than the pilot. Felt like more like a "medical" (yes that is in quotes because, ya know, tee-vee medicine) drama and less like a show that is trying to SAY something. So yeah it was nice seeing Shaun go about his day. I do like how he is shown to take things very literally and at face value. It was a nice little message (not too anvilicious) about non-verbal communication and subtext and how that both those things are important in communication - in hiding real meaning (sarcasm) also to add to it (sympathy). And it is fun to see such blunt 'at face value' language interpretation flummoxing people. Since I didn't like the relationship in the pilot between Claire and whatshisface, I am hope that their clash and her rapport with Shaun sends the death knell to that "romance." Dr. Melendez remains the worst. What a mustache twirler. He is practicing blatant discrimination but is so blind to it. I could get behind a good portrayal of a lack of self awareness but this just isn't it. It would be one thing is Shaun had royally screwed up and that is where the mistrust comes from, but they couldn't even give us that and instead just makes him as asshole out of the gate with no real motivation. Boring villains are boring. I have a little more hope for Harper Hill's character. I am not sure if he is as against Shaun as he was in the pilot. If he is still against Shaun, then HH is playing the character with some nuance and that is good. If he is not against Shaun, then HH is still playing the character with some nuance and that is good. I love that Carly chose to be charmed by Shaun's pronouncement to throw a rock at her window instead of getting pissy about it. Something about the interaction between the two, plus Freddy's acting choice there made that scene work well. Also it just doesn't seem right somehow to have Jasika Nicole portray pissy!

Oh, God. Me too. The only thing I ever liked that was related was the movie Clueless. And modern day Stacey Dash has even retroactively ruined that for me. Not as colorful as Twain, but that quote kinda reminds me of the twitter fight Twilight fans had with Stephen King because he said Stephanie Meyer couldn't writer worth a damn. Ha. I don't disagree. I could barely make it through Twilight. Needless to say my contributions to the discussion of my book club for that book was waaay snarky. But Ditto Dickens. Agree. You really do have to wade through some terribly amateurish stuff. But I have found some really good ones across genre. In SFF I really enjoyed Michael Sullivan's Riyria Revelations series (it was self pubbed originally but was bought by Hachette and repackaged). Also liked Lindsay Buroker's Emperor's Edge series which she originally self pubbed.

I figure the gross comment about Rebecca/Randall from Kevin was just another reminder what a collossal, gaping asshole young Kevin was to Randall. But even worse, it explicitly made a point about Kevin denying Randall his place in the family. The fact that he could make such a gross comment about his brother and his mother basically says that he doesn't consider Randal a family member at all.

As unrealistic as we often complain that the show is,for once, I think the opening makes a lot of sense. Every single person in Analise' circle spent the last couple years murdering, being accessories to murder and/or covering up the murder of multiple people: Sam, Rebecca, DA Smugface, Wes shot Annalise, Asher's father died, Frank killed Bonnie's father, Frank killed Wes' grandfather, Michaela's lover killed himself, and they all had to deal with Wes' death. Added to that, Ana's reputation is in the toilet as is their grades. If the show had plunged them right smack into another murder/cover-up I would really need to question these people's mental stability even more than I already am or decide whether or not they are actual serial killers. So I think it is smart of the show to step back and let them breathe a bit from all that. We know this isn't going to last, but for the opening it works. If this is the route they need to take for Ana to stop being this sad, lonely, alcoholic that she is and become in reality the fierce warrior Michaela believes her to be then I am all for it.

I am high fiving you while doing the black lady church fan wave, cuz this is truth.

One can only hope. I don't understand why the show would even entertain that. What is so wrong with allowing them to build and grow this great sibling relationship? I admit I am not the biggest Japril fan in the world, but I could be on board with a story line that has them acknowledging that maybe the love was there when they first got together but not the commitment or maturity necessary to make a marriage work long term. And now, the two are wiser, older and understand each other a little better maybe they get a real second chance. Something like that could win me over to them. But I could never get on board with Jackson & Maggie. I like them both separately, but not together. Not that way.

Yup. I could totally understand Michaela's anger at Analise. She hero worshiped Analise. Seeing her hero fall and not even fight to get back up feel like such a betrayal. Of all of them I thought Bonnie, Michaela and Asher's reactions felt the most understandable. Asher wasn't involved with them for the whole Sam thing so he was spared an entire year of crazy guilt trauma. But he could have chosen to blame Ana for all the stuff with his dad. But he doesn't. At least he is self aware to realize that he bears some blame there. For him I like that his reaction is a sad version of Michaela's angry reaction. Hers is anger at betrayal. His is sadness about rejection. I am not gonna lie, I would have at least eaten dinner. At least Michaela took the booze, ha!

Precisely the reason why everyone on tv has a bathroom with a stand alone shower stall. Have to accommodate the dramatic, crying wall slide. The poor folks who only have a shower as part of their bathtub can never know the dramatic release of the crying wall slide.