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I also watched Reindeer Games and came to the opposite conclusion, that Britney would do anything to avoid angering Danielle again. Britney really was distraught over Danielle's anger that night on BB: RG. I had wondered if it would blow over after the show ended, but as we saw at the beginning of this show, girlfriend knows how to hold a grudge. @Yogisbooboo64, they had to do a timed competition; if a player made it through they had to choose the next person to go. Each succeeding person had less time to complete the task. Britney had to choose between Danielle and someone else. Danielle was so angry/upset she didn't even try to finish the task. But if the other person had gone and finished, Danielle would have had even less time. I thought Danielle's anger was out of all proportion to Britney's decision, which was certainly not done in an effort to betray Danielle. Britney does have a plausible argument if she is the only one voting to save Danielle. Loyalty, friendship outside the game, etc.
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Altho Mari is the complainer and Designated Bitch among the girls, Shauna seems the most enraged over their situation. And with the exception of Travis, she has suffered the most traumatic losses of the group -- Jackie and the baby. Maybe it is as simple as she needs someone to blame for everything? Ben was the authority figure of the group and despite the fact that the girls quickly started ignoring his orders, the part of Shauna that is still a young girl may find it easy to focus on the adult who didn't save her baby. I don't believe they said what the penalty would be if Ben was "convicted of his crimes." Hopefully it won't be death, but I am not sure how they can put him in "jail" that is any worse than what he's already living through. If they still believe that the Wilderness Chooses, theoretically he shouldn't be first up to be turned into Coq au Ben. Cornish Game Ben?
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I started this last night and picked it back up this afternoon and just finished. In my opinion at least this was the best episode of the season and for the first time in two weeks I can't wait to see what happens next. Last night I stayed up until after midnight ET because of the speculation over whether the group's Gilligan's Island Resort was real or some kind of group psychosis, and someone had questioned what Ben would see. Turns out they really did build the nice straw huts and Elly May Akila had happy woodland creates to love and stroke and eventually butcher and eat. But I went back and looked at episode one again and everything was a tad nicer and cleaner and prettier -- including the girls. However, that was probably because, with the exception of Shauna, they were getting ready for their Wilderness party that evening. The trial was much more interesting than I thought it would be and it was definitely Coach Ben's best episode. His testimony was really compelling and Misty is wasted as a nurse. The Personal Injury Bar is missing a star! 1-800-Call Misty Billboards would be everywhere. I love Jeff more and more every episode. He was so funny and sweet with the residents. Also with the idea that he could find the same cat. I thought it was odd when he emphasized "You went to NYC?" to get the cat, but now know it was make sure he knew and we knew that she was in the area where Lottie apparently died. But I'm not sure that either Tai or Shauna killed Lottie, although both had a motive. They certainly are building Melissa's character up in the 90s, and Shauna does have someone following her around. Re: Melissa Did I miss Travis being drunk?
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S02.E08: Deal or No Deal Island: Safety in Numbers
Thalia replied to AntFTW's topic in Deal Or No Deal
I miss Dr. Will already, and I wasn't all that fond of him. Until this episode I wasn't all that fond of Pavarti either. But Dickson's illusions about his power and his outrage over the behavior of his "ride or die" along with Phillip's self-righteous mic drop made me want them both gone now, and for Parv to keep going. A problem with both DONDI and season 1 of Traitors is the mix of gamers and normies, at least in my opinion. As obnoxious as people like Will and Pavarti and Boston Rob and Rachel Reilly can be/are, they always recognize that they are playing a game and not trying to make besties for life. They struck gold last season with Boston Rob and Aron, but no one has Rob's charisma and Dickson is certainly no where as endearing as Aron. Right now I am hoping for Lete to make it to the end and take it all. My second would probably be Pavarti as she at least seems to be playing the game. David to me is just sitting there, being handsome, and taking advantage of the fact that the strongest player in the game sees him as HER ride or die. -
Forgot to add that, Timothy Dalton aside, the "seasoned" actors in the cast continue to chew the beautiful Montana scenery with the best of them. If they can't find a script they like, someone should still sit Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren down at least once a year and ask them to read the phonebook -- or the iPhone address book these days, I guess. And the speakeasy bit, from Harrison's gruff demand to be let in to his conversation with Robert Patrick's sheriff was gold. They made a point of letting us know she couldn't get into second class and would be with the great unwashed masses in third or steerage or whatever. Hopefully it will be filled with Leonardo DiCaprio's buddies from Titanic who just want to dance and drink beer and not people who would fit in at one of Timothy Dalton's parties. But I'm sure she'll be in peril at some point, and at the very least she'll recognize some enemy in first class.
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Thanks. I somehow totally missed that. I was sure the first show would involve Spencer somehow getting out of legal trouble. In fact when I first saw him on the ship I thought he was a prisoner and not part of the crew. Me either. For example, I had totally forgotten that Spencer and Alexandra had gotten married. And Darren Mann (Jack Dutton, fiancee and/or husband to Elizabeth) -- I thought he was killed last season, but he is in the credits. The one thing I remember, VIVIDLY, is how long it seemed to take Spencer to get from point A to point B -- or even halfway between Points A/B last season. I'm heartened over the idea that he's almost in the US and, for now at least, has the money to get a train to Montana. I just hope they don't dedicate the next episode to Spencer and buddy trying to hold on to their cash. Just don't. I couldn't understand why Jacob wasn't more concerned over leaving Cara and Elizabeth behind with a mountain lion who felt free to roam around the ranch house and buildings. He didn't have a rifle so I guess he couldn't have killed it, but he almost seemed to shrug his shoulders when it ran off. Timothy Dalton and his Bondage Boudoir? That's ten minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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I don't think that was Misty's work. Maybe Melissa (or Walter?). I immediately thought the person who seems to be following Shauna around tampered with the brakes. And I felt a little bad for Misty, who for once wasn't at fault. I'm guessing that her desire to have a Girls Day with New Bestie Shauna was in reaction to Walter's pointing out how bad Misty is treated by her so-called friends. Well, that didn't work. I couldn't help but notice that when she recited the list of Misty's borderline insane activities, Shauna said nothing about the destruction of the plane's radio signal. I would think that has to mean that most or all of the survivors still know nothing about Misty's role. That would certainly be Topic A for me regarding any discussion over Misty's wrongdoings.
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I agree that Travis doesn't enjoy taking the mushrooms and I think he was lying to Lottie when he told her that IT doesn't like him or want him or whoever. I hope Akilah enjoys being the focus of Lottie's energy. Poor Jeff. He really would have been better off married to someone like Jackie. She not only would have smiled in appreciation at the "experience" comment, she probably would have felt up Douchebag number 2 under the table.
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Yep. I guess that storyline has been dropped. I wonder if we'll see Tai's son again. I watched the two episodes one after another so I hope I don't mention anything from the second episode. I was a little surprised over how much the show glossed over, or explained through exposition, things that had to happen to wrap up season 2 storylines. One was the conflict between Simone and Tai. There don't seem to be any repercussions from the police over any of the modern storylines involving dead people. Van has apparently given up her store and moved back to Yellowjacketstown (I don't know where they live in NJ). But not a lot of time has passed in the present day because we saw Nat's funeral. The most jarring thing to me was the 90s timeline and the way the girls (and Javi) seem to be living in a New Age Sandals Resort. They were so close to starvation in season 2 and the burning of the cabin -- and yes, @BitterApple, almost all of their stuff -- and the frigidness of the temperatures had me wondering how in the hell they would survive. I need to go back and relisten to young Van's speech. I also didn't remember things being quite that tense between Mari and Shauna, although if I was to pick two of the girls to go to war, those would be the girls. There was something about the fire burning for two weeks. Was that done to keep themselves warm while they built those huts or until Spring came? Shauna continues to be weird and entertaining in both timelines. Biting Mari and talking to "Misty" through the salt shaker. Sweet mother-daughter bonding moment over Callie's use of entrails -- that were door dashed no less.
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Ddn't Tom eff it up by answering the question for Carolyn? He did, but Dylan entered after that, and if they asked Dylan about Alan's outfit it was edited out. I also wondered why no one talked about Carolyn's answer and Tom's blunder after the fact when they were in small groups. But then everyone was too busy talking about the Giant Spotlight Danielle and Britney had pointed toward the two of them as they did everything but make and exchange friendship bracelets. I'm so happy that Danielle and Carolyn's post-Boston Rob rapprochement was short-lived. Carolyn has had a history to giving in to what the majority has wanted thus far in the game, but I think she'll stand firm here. Danielle needs to give in gracefully (won't happen) and then work with Britney to banish Carolyn from outside the turret. I'm loving Tom Sandoval's combination of idiocy and fairly spot-on analysis of the players. He keeps coming up with right answers but all anyone is noticing is when he does something dumb, like provide Carolyn with the right answers to her "test."
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Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention (goes without saying) but I couldn't understand why Lete was so upset that CK drew her name on purpose. It isn't like Lete wasn't going to have to go at some point, so I'm not sure why going at that particular moment would have hurt her. I guess it potentially could have helped Lete, because it would insure the availability of cases on every level. I guess the same arguments, pro and con, apply to CK's reasons for wanting Lete to go next. If Pavarti truly had no idea that others hadn't noticed the family alliance then she isn't as sharp as she's suppose to be. Also, I wish there had been a confessional where she shared her reasoning behind raising Phillip's bullying in connection with Dr. Will. Was that a thought out strategy? Was she truly being empathetic? If so, it was also a convenient way to push Phillip away from Dr. Will and toward "Mom." I wish last night had been an extended episode -- I wanted another 30 minutes watching the fallout from CK's revelations at tribal. I suspect CK will lose to the banker when the show comes back as both the producers and the audience know the next episode would be more dramatic/interesting if she stuck around.
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I kind of hate that Sandoval received the validation, because it was funny watching him being so sure about Rob and yet no one wanted to listen to him. I don't have a whole lot of interest in anyone left, so at least I can quit watching this on Thursdays at 8 CT and can go back to watching Matlock like the rest of the Boomers. As someone who didn't start watching Big Brother until season 12, I haven't been really impressed with two of the early legends (Danielle here and Dr. Will on DONDI) I've been watching the past few weeks. I can't be for her, the remaining women who aren't Britney are the same person to me, and I just can't with Sandoval or the model. I guess that leaves Dylan or Britney for me to root for. I guess Carolyn wouldn't be too bad as a winner. It might be funny to see her win when the other traitors have ignored her since the beginning. I want Ivar to stay around just so Britney can do more talking heads mocking him. Now that was Good TV! I loved the Red and White wedding costumes. This show has a fabulous wardrobe budget. Shirrell's (is that her name) "fortitude" was hilarious, but I don't know that I could have done that. Ciera was lucky to end up with Rob, and I think that was a glimpse of Rob the Dad of Daughters, as he took the right approach with her.
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Also, apparently there won't be any repercussions from Bode promising the homeowner that Bode would save the house and the homeowner's precious memories of the dead wife. The last show before the break emphasized a) that Bode shouldn't have made that promise; and b) Oops, it didn't take long for Bode to break that promise. I suppose there is a possibility that this will come up in a future episode. But I was bothered at the way it was completely dropped. Another thing that seemed to change while the show was "on a break" -- Eve's dad went from being Angry to Supportive without blinking. I guess they had a Nice Christmas.
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I almost never remember a given reality show's cast members from season to season. But last year's group was pretty memorable, at least to me. Especially Boston Rob (natch), Aron, Alyssa (the red-head Aron was gaga over), Amy, Jordan, Claudia Jordan, Miranda and the wacky Kim Mattina. And I agree with you, they seemed to have more personality. and now that they have Dr. Will to focus on, the rest aren't fighting with each other at all. There were several fun blow ups last year.
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Well that was certainly -- something. I found myself cringing during a lot of Dr. Will's theatrics. I guess he pulled this same kind of stuff back on BB? But walking off after the excursion, beating up on Dickson, his attitude during the ceremony -- it was certainly watchable, but it didn't make me respect his Mad Gaming Skillz. If this was a BB strategy, Will may find out the same thing Dan Gheesling did on Traitors. What works on a 90 day game may not work when alliances and decisions and surprises are implemented over the course of a quick week or two. Aside: I'm going to be ageist for a moment (retired Baby Boomer here) -- but I wonder if it was more palatable to a TV audience when he was younger and hotter. I didn't have a problem with will going 1-6 on the cases, but most contestants use the case ceremony as a chance for some back and forth with other contestants. Will could have laughed with them or given them some kind of explanation, whether true or not. Instead, he seemed like he was just thumbing his nose at them and being a smart ass. And while walking off seemed dramatic, it was disrespectful to MG (YMMV) and I'm glad he came back. Did last year have as many excursions where half the cast got safety? Although I like the members of The Family as individuals, I don't like the group as a bloc and wish they'd been under more pressure.