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The show, & I like to think a lot of viewers, isn't pretending Kono, or Chin, never existed. Steve told Tani some story about Chin while they were paddleboarding at the Hilton Hawaiian Village before they got a recent case. She said something about she was hoping to meet Chin & Steve said he thought that would probably happen because everybody who leaves Hawaii usually comes home. Steve & Danny, & Steve & Adam, if not the rest of the older team members, have also talked about Kono, &/or Chin. And in the episode which started with the flash forward to Steve & Danny tasting food & talking with each other about Duke Lukela & his wife coming to the restaurant for dinner later that evening, & talking to a chef & a waitress (which ended up with Steve telling Danny, during a news report about an HPD Detective--which Danny technically still is despite working with Five-0--dying at King's Hospital that night, that Danny was the murdered detective... after which blood started to appear on his chest, & Danny actually was shot & critically injured later in the episode, by a still mystery man, while he, Steve, Tani, & Junior were in isolation at the hospital because they'd been exposed to a deadly virus) they showed this wall of photographs that are supposed to be on display in the restaurant; because of the people whose pics are in that grouping, I think it's supposed to be people Steve & Danny think of as ʻohāna. Among the photos they showed were Steve's late Aunt Deb, I think Danny's children, Grace & Charlie (if I remember correctly), Chin, & Kono (not necessarily in that order), & others I can't remember now because I can't get that scene completely in my head. So they're not pretending Kono, & Chin, never existed (despite the way Grace & Daniel left the show). In fact, quite the contrary.
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Secondary and Tertiary Characters, and Guest Stars
BW Manilowe replied to Tara Ariano's topic in The Americans [V]
According to this, from the Honolulu Star-Advertiser: Tragedy, Death, Heartbreak on Brooklyn Street, where the story is apparently also a big local news story although it occurred on the other side of the country & on the opposite coast from Honolulu, the woman who was driving the car apparently did tell the police she was suffering from heart problems, seizures, & multiple sclerosis. As of yesterday, her license has been suspended while the police investigate whether or not she should've even been driving. The article also says that the numerous traffic violations incurred over the last 2 years, for speeding in school zones & running red lights, are charged to the vehicle involved, not the driver. So, for all intents & purposes, the driver involved has a clean driving record. This is also a big local news story in Hawaii because Ruthie Ann (Miles) Blumenstein graduated from Honolulu's/O'ahu's Kaimuki High School in 2001, before going to graduate school in NYC, & apparently still makes frequent trips back to Honolulu to visit family & friends, & because her injured friend's father also lives on Oʻahu (he is reported as having flown from Honolulu to NYC after the accident, to be with his daughter). -
This is followup information on the horrific hit & run (sort of?) accident in Brooklyn, NY, yesterday that critically injured 7 months pregnant Tony Award-winning actress Ruthie Ann Blumenstein, who acts under the stage name Ruthie Ann Miles, apparently less seriously injured a friend of hers & another man (who wasn't part of the group including Blumenstein & her friend & 2 others), & caused the deaths of Blumenstein's 4-year-old daughter, Abigail, & her friend's 1-year-old son, Joshua. The article is from the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, where it's also a pretty big local news story, just as it is in NYC & the Broadway community there (if not the rest of the country) because Blumenstein & her friend have ties to Hawaii--Blumenstein graduated from Kaimuki High School in 2001, & apparently made frequent trips back to Hawaii to stay in touch, & her friend's father lives in Hawaii, on O'ahu (he was reported to be en route to Hawaii to be with his daughter). Anyway, the article says the driver of the car who hit Ms. Blumenstein's group & the other man has had her license suspended, as of yesterday (which I know some posters wondered about), while police determine if she should've been driving at all, as she apparently did tell police she suffers from heart problems, seizures, & multiple sclerosis (& if she was driving with a seizure disorder that was going unmedicated as far as controlling/stopping the seizures goes; especially if she was purposely not taking any meds she was supposed to be on, then--speaking as the daughter of a now-deceased neurosurgeon--hell yeah, her license should've been suspended or revoked). The article also makes mention that city cameras have caught the car involved violating speed regulations around schools on 4 separate occasions, as well as running red lights on 4 separate occasions, in the last 2 years. Normally, you'd think this would've already gotten her license revoked (it probably would've in most other states) but the article says that traffic violations in NYC are attached to the vehicle involved, not the driver. And so her driving record is apparently clean. From the Honolulu Star Advertiser: Tragedy, Death and Heartbreak on Brooklyn Street
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I read that they went ahead with an option, regarding Ryan & the Red Carpet interviews, they came up with after the alleged victim in his sexual misconduct case went public, & at least somewhat graphic, about what she alleges Ryan did to her--this despite the fact E!/NBC Universal says they conducted a 2-month investigation into the matter & found the claims against Ryan without merit (which should've meant the whole thing was over, but the accuser apparently wants to keep beating a dead horse). They apparently pre-arranged who Ryan interviewed, & he talked to celebs he was comfortable with & who were comfortable with him ("Ryan-friendly") so that there wouldn't be any on-air awkwardness about how the celebs/random celebs might've really felt about Ryan's situation (Alleged situation?), & so hopefully nobody would have a chance to call Ryan out publicly, on air about the continuing allegations against him despite the fact he's already been cleared of them after a 2-month internal corporate investigation, which he eagerly participated in. As long as they don't replace Ryan as a main Red Carpet host with Ross (Ross the Intern) Matthews, whose voice gets to me after awhile, I'm fine. She's no real prize either, but if they decide to cut Ryan loose (which I really doubt since the company's internal investigation cleared him, before the accuser renewed her accusations), gimme back the skeletal, vapid Giuliana Rancic as lead interviewer.
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Well, it doesn't seem he's done a lot of acting since he left M*A*S*H. I don't remember him being in much, if anything, else on TV & in the movies since then, so maybe Gary is/was burned out. I just hope he's invested well & all that kinda stuff, or that he found some other line of work, because I know he had at least a couple of wives & a couple, or 3, children to support (along with himself) over the years.
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That's what I've always heard, over the years. The guy who played a nice character (Gary Burghoff's Cirporal Walter "Radar" O'Reilly) wasn't very nice offstage, but the guy who played the assholic character (Larry Linville's Major Frank Burns) was, like, supposedly 1 of the nicest guys you could have ever met. Obviously another example of why that profession's called "acting".
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I loved that moment too. But I couldn't figure out how Winchester, as an adult, was supposed to still be able to wear a cap he'd worn as a child (Winchester did wear the cap in later episodes, when it was supposed to have been winter/cold weather in Korea). I mean, as an adult his head should've grown enough so the cap wouldn't fit anymore; at least theoretically speaking.
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That's 1 of the Winchester eps I like, too. It was nice when we could see his more compassionate side (towards the baby at the end, before they took her to the monastery), & that he had 1 instead of just being rather 1-note, & pompous & arrogant, which is what I think (& probably many/most thought) Frank Burns became 1-note) by the time Larry Linville left the show. By the time Frank Burns was written out, about the only thing he had going for him, as far as I was concerned, was that he was supposed to have been from my hometown. And then that made me less than happy because I was worried people would think everybody from here was like that, instead of Burns being an isolated case. We actually have a VA Hospital & an Outpatient Center here, so I suppose that's where Frank probably ended up getting transferred & promoted to when he had his breakdown & went AWOL, trying to find Margaret in Tokyo when she was on her honeymoon with Donald Penobscot. I keep hoping he was supposedly transferred to any other VA Hospital we might have in the state. Sorry for the detour. Anyway, the baby episode's 1 of my favorites (although I really hate how they describe mixed race children, of servicemen & locals, were treated back then, if they couldn't be taken in by a monastery or somewhere else helpful). The weird word Potter said Winchester was fluent in, & was part of the reason why he was supposed to go with Pierce to discuss getting the baby sent to the US (they were going to speak to someone at the US Embassy in Seoul), was Hoi polloi. Potter thought Winchester had it, he could deal better with the staff at the US Embassy in Seoul, because of his upper crust background.
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At some point, Steve & Danny were talking about the restaurant & 1 of them said they could hire someone to run it for them until they could run it for themselves. It was in an ep, but I forget which 1. As for Danny planning on seeing his kids, it feels like he's only got 1 kid now, Charlie, because he's still young & cute; & it seems like Teilor Grubbs/Gracie hasn't been in hardly any episodes this season, either because Teilor grew out of being the "cute" kid a lot of the audience likes watching (which the kid playing Charlie still is) or because Teilor's family moved to LA to try & further develop her career & that's a long schlep, even though a number of the adults on H50 do it too. I assume Danny has legal & physical joint custody of both Charlie & Grace now. He won joint physical custody of Grace in S4 after Rachel filed a custody modification request, at the end of S2, allowing Rachel, Grace, & Charlie (who wasn't acknowledged to be Danny's son then) to move to Las Vegas where Rachel's 2nd husband, Stan, was working on a new casino resort, or something; & Danny filed his own custody modification request in response, asking for Joint Physical Custody--or something closer to that than he apparently already had--& the right to give permission to Rachel if she wanted to take Gracie off the island, because he felt Gracie had put down roots & had made friends in Hawaii, & it wouldn't be fair to her to have to go somewhere else & start over, & it also wasn't fair to Danny to make him pack up & move every time Stan got a job in a new city/country just to be able to maintain contact with Grace (like his moving to Hawaii after his divorce & Rachel's remarriage). If Uncle Vito were married to 1 of Eddie or Clara's (Danny's parents') sisters (if they have any) at least in my family (& probably in others) Vito'd be an uncle without the quotation marks around it because there is a familial relationship between them, even if a blood tie doesn't exist. The quotations, at least the way I know them, are only used when someone who isn't a biological/blood relation is considered family.
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In Memoriam: Entertainment Industry Celebrity Deaths
BW Manilowe replied to Kromm's topic in Everything Else TV
It figures! I haven't seen it (being homebound because of illness really sucks)--maybe I'll have to get Netflix, or whatever, when/if it gets picked up by a streaming service, because I'm really interested in seeing it, although stuff like that isn't usually my "cup of tea". I guess watching reruns of Dick Van Dyke's show, & then seeing her on Hollywood Squares, Doris Day's show, & the zillion other recurring &/or 1-shot guest roles she did when I was growing up, made me like her enough to wanna watch the documentary. I hope whomever won the Oscar in the category Rose Marie's (auto?)biographical documentary belonged in really appreciates the win. That's all I have to say about it. Wait for Your Laugh seemed like it had the "buzz", & the critical & audience response to have at least gotten a freaking nomination in the appropriate category. And I'm really disappointed for Jason Wise & his wife (they spent, what, 3 years--or almost--working on it, practically devoting themselves to it, it seemed like) & for Rose Marie's daughter, "Noopy" (aka Georgiana), her son-in-law, Peter Marshall, & all Rose Marie's loved ones who also contributed to the documentary that they didn't get what I see as their just reward for all their hard work. By the way, I was kinda surprised to find out Rose Marie even had a (grownup) child. I knew she was married/widowed, but I don't remember ever reading/hearing anything about a child/children in her interviews over the years. I just figured Rose Marie & her husband were, maybe, too busy with their careers to start/have a family before his untimely death; or maybe 1 or both physically couldn't have children. If they just chose not to put her in the spotlight, it's a credit to that era, & to Rose Marie (& presumably her husband, before he died) that--unlike with many children of today's celebrities--very little, if anything, seems to have been known about Georgiana "Noopy" Guy until her mom's documentary release & subsequent, perhaps still untimely, death (even though she was in her mid-'90's) soon after the documentary was released. -
In Memoriam: Entertainment Industry Celebrity Deaths
BW Manilowe replied to Kromm's topic in Everything Else TV
I think they were complaining, over in the Academy Awards thread, that there seemed to be too many "behind the scenes" people at least most viewers wouldn't know shown, & not enough people shown who at least most viewers would know. And, since David Ogden Stiers just died/it was announced late Saturday night, I think I can give The Academy a pass on not including him this year. He should be in the Emmys' In Memoriam this year, for sure. If he's not in the Oscars' tribute next year, I guess we can assume he either wasn't an Academy member, & you have to be to even be in the running to be included, or he wasn't included because he didn't do that much film work/wasn't as big a film name in comparison with others who were included. -
In Memoriam: Entertainment Industry Celebrity Deaths
BW Manilowe replied to Kromm's topic in Everything Else TV
Would you have any idea if the documentary about her should've been eligible this year, or should it be next year? I just wondered because I was following her Twitter account before she died (& I still follow it), & as much as I can about the documentary since then, as well. Based on all the positive response I've seen to it, I was expecting it had to be a shoo-in for a Documentary nomination this year, & when it didn't get 1 I didn't know if I should be disappointed, or if it still has a shot next year. It certainly seems like it should have been/should be at least nominated. -
I'm not sure who you're talking about, but whatever time "this hour" was when you posted, as long as you weren't also in the Pacific Time Zone, since the Oscars are in California it was as much as 3 hours earlier & as little as 1 hour earlier wherever you are, which isn't all that late, yet. As I type, it's only around 11:15PM Eastern; not necessarily optimal for school-age kids to be up that late on a school night, but again, in California it's 3 hours earlier than where I am & still perfectly acceptable for most school-age kids (unless you're in preschool &/or kindergarten/just starting school) to be awake. Plus, for the school-age kids who are there, I'm sure they're there with their parents' full knowledge & consent, probably because at least 1 parent (or perhaps another relative) is an Oscar nominee this year & it's being treated as a special occasion even if it goes past the kids' bedtime.
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Yay Allison! She now has half of an EGOT (see my post in the CJ Cregg thread); she just needs a Grammy (which is fairly easy to get if you do the reading on somebody's Audiobook; she could also be in a Grammy-winning Broadway Cast Recording of a musical she's in on Broadway, or maybe even appear on a Grammy-winning comedy album [like Bradley did once, with Al Franken--he appeared with the former Minnesota Senator on a comedy album of his that was at least nominated for a Grammy]), & she also needs to finally win that Tony award she's missed at least twice before. Then she'll have the EGOT. If you're in the entertainment business, getting an EGOT is like being a pro tennis player & winning all 4 major championships--the Australian Open, the French Open, Wimbledon, & the US Open--especially if you can win all 4 in the same calendar year, which is a Grand Slam in the tennis championships. You don't have to win the awards for an EGOT in the same year. I had forgotten, in all the excitement over Allison's nomination/win, that Aaron Sorkin is up in the Adapted Screenplay category. And he just lost to the guy who wrote the Adapted Screenplay for Call Me by Your Name. Sorkin already won an Oscar, for The Social Network, so it's (kind of) OK he lost (he's also lost another Oscar between The Social Network & the nomination tonight, but I've forgotten what he was nominated for the second time).
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Hopefully by the end of tonight, we--& the world--will be able to refer to Allison Janney as "Oscar & Emmy winner Allison Janney", & she'll be halfway to an "EGOT", the acronym for the major awards in the entertainment industry (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, & Tony Award), having won 7 Emmys previously (for TWW, Masters of Sex, & Mom) plus the Oscar (crossing everything I can cross, for good luck). That looks even more likely since Allison won as Best Supporting Actress at the Independent Spirit Awards, which were held last night in the LA area. To finish the EGOT, all she has to do is win a Grammy (which could be possible if she does anymore Broadway musicals & they release a Cast Album, or if she does something as simple as reading a book for its Audiobook version) & a Tony (she's been nominated at least twice, I think, but hasn't won yet). According to this, from The Hollywood Reporter, the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress will be presented 9th, following the Oscar for Best Foreign Film. GO GET 'EM ALLISON!
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In Memoriam: Entertainment Industry Celebrity Deaths
BW Manilowe replied to Kromm's topic in Everything Else TV
This is probably (at least) a little off topic, but since we're so often bringing up the refrain "Fuck Cancer!" here, whether it be in discussing the passing of favorite celebs or (briefly) mentioning the passing of loved ones, from the illness or effects of it, I thought I might pass along this link, which I found in a sponsored ad on 1 of my social media pages: I Do Not Like Cancer. It's a 2-page section, from a larger website, of actually funny T-shirts (think Dr. Seuss' "I do not like green eggs and ham" speech redone to reflect a dislike for cancer) & other merchandise aimed at those dealing with the illness & their loved ones. I think my favorite item(s) are the ones with the reworked Dr. Seuss passage. -
In Memoriam: Entertainment Industry Celebrity Deaths
BW Manilowe replied to Kromm's topic in Everything Else TV
But unlike Raymond Burr, David Ogden Stiers apparently wasn't in a relationship when he died. When he came out in 2009, in this & other media outlets, David Ogden Stiers stated that among his reasons for finally coming out was because he wanted to spend his life's twilight "being who I am"; he wanted to find someone to settle down with, & he didn't "desire to force any potential partner to live a life of extreme discretion with me." So I think if David Ogden Stiers had been lucky enough to find someone with whom he had a "more than casual" relationship since he came out, that probably would've been mentioned in his obit in addition to/instead of his coming out in 2009. Raymond Burr was in a longterm relationship with actor-turned-production consultant-turned-orchid-grower-turned-winemaker Robert Benevides when he died. Their relationship lasted about 33 years, 1960-Raymond Burr's 1993 death (ironically from kidney cancer, not entirely unlike David Ogden Stiers' death). The interview linked is from 2017, from (I think) a lifestyle-type publication aimed at the gay community. Benevides has subsequently apparently sold the Raymond Burr Winery, perhaps as far back as in 2013. -
Well, the restaurant Steve & Danny are trying to open is Italian. And I think, in the ep which started with the flash forward scene where Steve & Danny are actually running the restaurant & each of them is trying 1 of the dishes either on that night's menu or up for consideration as a menu addition (which ends with the news report about a cop, who ends up being Danny, dying at King's Medical Center that night, & blood appearing on Danny's chest area as Steve tells him he's the dead cop when they're talking about the news report) I'd swear Steve (or Danny) said something about how Danny's grandma would have liked 1 of the dishes, or that version of 1 of the dishes. Danny's grandma was mentioned, for some reason, anyway.
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Vito isn't Danny's real uncle--the word uncle is in quotation marks in the press release announcing the casting & the character's description/background/connection to Danny, so you know (hopefully) Vito's not a real uncle to Danny. He's probably more like a close family friend at least Danny got to call "Uncle" while growing up, like at least Danny's & Grover's kids do with Steve, & like Chin called Kono "Auntie Kono" in talking with his niece, Sara (when he, most of Five-0, & Adam went to rescue her after she was kidnaped from her Mexican, biological, aunt & uncle's custody to get even with Five-0 for killing the head of a drug cartel they took down); when Chin & Sara were reunited, before he traded himself for her he told Sara to get in the car he'd driven there, lock it, & wait for Auntie Kono to come get her, & she'd be there soon. In the context of the show it's a Hawaiian "thing", regarding showing respect to your elders (Kono even called Kamekona "uncle", way back in S1, when she took the suspect's young daughter to Waiola Shave Ice in the ep about the hostage situation involving the USS Missouri tour group). But it's also done on the Mainland, Alaska, & other places (I got to do it with friends of my parents, while growing up, too). Though, admittedly, it might be hard for others to figure out if you mean a related or non-related "Auntie" or "Uncle" when discussing people in your life with that designation.