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Now that "The Terror" is going to become a series -- "a different mystery every season" -- and this is turning into a freakshow, I feel like every series I watch is becoming American Horror Story (which I also watch.)

Almost a year later, I finally saw Series 6. I loved it and agree with OP. Looking forward to Series 7 if there is one. Pierre is sorely missing. Herville is, in fact, great.

I know. That got my attention. I'm so surprised. Not even a nomination. ***I'm not into awards other than to know they help cast and crew in their careers -- so I'm all for awards. I just don't care about them otherwise. So - due to lack of familiarity with the system -- perhaps the timing was off for consideration this year? I mean, no nominations at all is kind of shocking. I expected at least a technical nod. Or, perhaps, music.

Add Naomi into that scene and the Belter accents will be in full blossom!

After "The Terror" (I hope, hope, hope he gets an Emmy nod), here's a toast to seeing more Jared Harris as Anderson Dawes. We didn't see enough of him by the end of this season (or at all?) With Amazon backing, they should be able to afford him. ;-)

The 1980 adaptation of Lathe is quite good. I liked it. I think it was done by the BBC.

Two points about their list -- okay three. First, LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Seriously. My sides hurt. Second, Ashford looked around to see if anyone was going to attack him for what he'd done. Not to see whether there were witnesses. Of course there were. [confused by joke], and Third, Naked men are great. They are. I love them. That said, I would much rather applaud the work Amos has put into his physique rather than Holden. (See my comment above about my Amos-love.) I mean, Holden is sorta milquetoast, am I right? Don't judge me. To each their own.

There is a certain continuity in genre science fiction/fantasy -- the idea that m/patriarchs are powerfully driven by the death of a child. I remember that wonderful scene with Theoden and Gandalf as Theoden is mourning his son's death. "No parent," he says, "should endure the death of his child." (I paraphrase.) So, that Ashford and Dawes are motivated by the untimely deaths of young people related to them (Ashford's child, Dawes' sister at his own hands) is entirely in accordance with the trend. It's a powerful and highly credible force to drive a plotline, I think.

I thought the episodes were fabulous. I'm a little tired of Holdon's soppy face (I think that's the actor's constant sort of weepy, snotty, desperation look and it's not great for me) but I get that he's been through hell and back again. Ashford ultimately made a big mistake but what I love about this series (I never read the books) is that all the characters are gray rather than just black and white.* So, Ashford is redeemable. *Melba/Clarissa's turn of allegiance aside -- I found her one note and utterly cliche. Didn't like the character and found the actress only slightly better. She reminded me a lot of the main character's girlfriend on Mindhunter. One note and with an actress not capable of giving much depth credibly. I couldn't love the actor and the character of Amos more than I do right now. It wouldn't be possible. He's a shining example of someone given a dangerously one note character and yet brings him absolutely to light. A guy who is by definition black and white becomes a kaleidoscope by virtue of a great performance. I'm glad the show was picked up for another season (as others mention, this would have been a fine end) and I'm wonderfully glad that Miller had a wrap up scene. (He reminds me a lot of the Irish vampire on Preacher. There is definitely a "type" of character running around television right now and I'm delighted. I find them charming and amusing. With a soupçon of gravity and angst. It's kind of a modern twist on the traditional noir flatfoot and I love it.)

"Standoffish" may not be a term that works for some but I'm not sure I would reduce his responses to just three. My impression from that scene was that he reacted badly to her return but it was most certainly neither hatred nor an ignoring of her.

The Terror worked for me because it's an historical mystery I've been fascinated with for years. I thought it was an unfortunate decision to make the Tuunbaaq real and to over emphasize it as the primary threat to their survival. The direction they are taking the new plot sounds to me like they are most thrilled with the exact things I didn't like about The Terror. If they turn this into an historical version of American Horror Story, I won't be watching for the fascinating plotline. I enjoy AHS and, if Jared Harris is part of the ensemble case for this series, I'll give it a go. But, not for the reasons I tuned into The Terror.

Um, is this where we are talking about the final episode of the show? I just watched it a day or so ago and thought it was amazing. I love this series and have recommended it all over the place -- yet not one person I know has watched it.

I did think Amos was standoffish but we kind of know what makes him tick. He is so literal. His response may have been "I can't be glad you're back because I'm not glad you will leave again and that is your track record now." Therefore, he acknowledges her presence but now he has no ability to rely on her permanence. That's how I took it. But, I did notice.

You need to see him as Crozier in "The Terror". He's fucking phenomenal. (And he looks just like his father. But he's a much better actor.) ETA: I really like Anderson Dawes and it was his speech to Miller about Dawes' sister that tuned me into The Expanse in the first place. I saw the two minute video of his performance on the PTV Terror forum.

Well, this show just keeps getting better and better. I have to say (I do) that I prefer binging it because I'm either "over" whatever Holden is going through or I will love it and am going to sit through a whole week of annoyance. Because, as the "messiah" of the story, he's pretty boring right now. Also, he kind of blew it for me with one word, 'end'. If his revelation had been "everything" and left it there (rather than, when he repeats the statement, adding "the end of") I would have been happier. I'm a comparative religion nerd and am a third of the way through my dissertation in humanities. I have a good grasp of the God concept. That said, the rest of the episode was brilliant. I don't quite understand that now, when it's standing squarely on its "brilliant" legs, SyFy decided to cancel it. Thank goodness for fans and Bezos. I hope it pays off. Also, more Anderson Dawes, please. I mean it. We need him on set.

Netfoot, the right side of your shelf looks like my childhood reading pile! I never read Biggles but the very sound of it reminds me of a little known series by Isaac Asimov about Lucky Starr. I loved them. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1470365.Lucky_Starr_and_the_Rings_of_Saturn (Just an example.) Because of The Original Series Star Trek, I became an Air Force jet pilot (21 year career). I had a wonderful life flying for the Air Force and then the Air National Guard. (I became a lawyer in real life. Flying is such a treat that I can't call it working, in all fairness. LOL Except for that whole military "war" thing and getting shot at. That was no fun.) Now, at my old age, I'm an historian.

Please, some kind soul, tell me the difference between Clarissa and Melba? I'm not sure who I'm talking about anymore.

In my era, Weis and Hickman were famous for the Dragonlance books.

Yep -- I've been "here" since TWoP spun off of MightyBigTV. So, I'm very very old. And, I'm a fan of the written recaps.

Honestly, podcasts are absolutely never on my radar. I just don't have the time for them. I actually donated $5 to the kickstarter campaign to get old school recaps back because podcasts leave me cold.

Overall and based on this episode, the Melba plotline is a waste of air (and I get the impression it's the same in the books). I dislike it intensely. I think it's because the motivation is so lame and the "superhero arch-villain" bit is much too simplistic for this show. It's almost as if it was looking to increase the audience to include a younger set. Ironic that they got cancelled anyway and had to be picked up by a company with money to lose and after a fan uprising. I adore Miller and missed him (thanks for the hopes raven!) RL military service -- depending on your training, you get a commitment to serve. When I was in flight school, I committed to a year of training and then six years of service. Then the First Gulf War hit in the middle of my sixth (ish) year and I was stuck in stop-loss for another two years. If you have a job deemed "necessary to the mission" then the feds can activate "stop loss" of that particular type of personnel and you are stuck until they release you -- no matter what your initial commitment was. PS: Oh, shit -- It's Clarissa I can't stand. Who is Melba? I thought she was that woman who is the daughter of Mao and sister of Juliet. The one who looks like she's stifling a fart all the time. She's awful -- both the character and the actress.

Thanks. It was a little too super-hero-y for me. The rest of the series has been brilliant.

I’m sorry to say that the thread here is a little bit tl;dr. Can anyone tell me where Melba got the strength to kill her crew mate? That was out of left field. (I also loathe her her storyline.)

I've come over to The Expanse from Jared Harris' performance as Francis Crozier in "The Terror" -- I've binged this show and overall am very pleased. It gets better as it goes along. My only issue is that I feel absolutely no NO no chemistry between the actors who play Holden and Naomi. It's too bad because their characters are fascinating. I actually find Holden much more complex and interesting than Naomi. But, for a romantic partnership, they are as sexy as two planks of wood. Jeez. That awkward farewell when Holden was pinioned to the bulkhead and the blue monster was getting jettisoned -- let's just say I realized I had some dishes to do in the middle of their dialogue, hit pause, got up, did the dishes, and came back. No great loss there. And, more Anderson Dawes, please.

I think he remains in that "twilight" of Inuit mythology -- that was the point. But, wow, is that open to wide interpretation, huh.